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#161
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Monday, December 17, 2012 2:13:54 PM(UTC)
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Tomorrow is tryout Tuesday.Let's hope they bring in some bodies for a look see. Just to have some options and maybe light a fire under "Missing" Crosby ass.
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Monday, December 17, 2012 3:56:37 PM(UTC)
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Much to the dismay of many ... there is not a better Kicker available. Packers are stuck with Mason Crosby.
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Monday, December 17, 2012 4:31:17 PM(UTC)
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Zero2Cool said: 
Much to the dismay of many ... there is not a better Kicker available. Packers are stuck with Mason Crosby.
He is literally the worst kicker on any nfl team right now, and statistically, by an appreciable amount.
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Monday, December 17, 2012 4:52:51 PM(UTC)
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Somebody mentioned Billy Kundoff as being the only kicker with worse stats than Mason this year.
Yet when Chicago needed a kicker last week he was one of 3 or 4 guys who was invited to try out.
Obviously the opnions that count have decided Crosby is The Packers best option moving forward.
Hell if they got rid of Crosby, then who would people have to gripe about?
Now if Al Del Greco "The greatest football player ever" was available I'd be sayin' bye bye Mason!!!!
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Monday, December 17, 2012 5:46:59 PM(UTC)
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PackerTraxx said: 
Why doesn't he spend some time with the "kicking Guru". I can't recall his name - maybe Sailor? I mean the guy earns a million plus, wouldn't it be worth thousands to protect that job? I like Crosby because he's not a complainer, keeps plugging and especially his let strength. But results are what count.
Why? Because Slocum does a lot of research and has had a career of coaching special teams:
http://www.jsonline.com/...s-fh7n94k-180077441.htmlSlocum said:Slocum scoffed at the notion of bringing in a kicking specialist.
"No. I do a lot of research," he said. "I think I can coach kickers with anybody. I do all that type of research. I have a career of coaching, coaching special teams; I don't feel a need to do that."
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Monday, December 17, 2012 6:00:20 PM(UTC)
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lol that 1 of 8 50+ really kills Mason Crosby
30-39 5 of 7
40-49 7 of 10
50+ 1 of 8
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Monday, December 17, 2012 6:05:43 PM(UTC)
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Zero2Cool said: 
lol that 1 of 8 50+ really kills Mason Crosby
30-39 5 of 7
40-49 7 of 10
50+ 1 of 8
it is his last two kicks of 40-49 that bother me the most. 0-2 and he shows signs of lack of confidence.
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Monday, December 17, 2012 6:27:54 PM(UTC)
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wpr said: 
it is his last two kicks of 40-49 that bother me the most. 0-2 and he shows signs of lack of confidence.
What bothers me is making him attempt field goals that long with the problems he's having. Mason is a delicate snowflake right now. I'm thinking trial by fire isn't the best approach.
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Monday, December 17, 2012 6:28:13 PM(UTC)
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macbob said: 
Quote:Slocum said:
Slocum scoffed at the notion of bringing in a kicking specialist.
"No. I do a lot of research," he said. "I think I can coach kickers with anybody. I do all that type of research. I have a career of coaching, coaching special teams; I don't feel a need to do that."
He's doing a bang up job.
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Monday, December 17, 2012 6:42:27 PM(UTC)
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DakotaT said: 
What bothers me is making him attempt field goals that long with the problems he's having. Mason is a delicate snowflake right now. I'm thinking trial by fire isn't the best approach.
There have been 134 50+ attempted this year, with 81 being made in the league (60%).
I agree with what you're saying to an extent. The 55 yarders are maybe excessive and that hasn't helped his cause, but he's paid to make kicks. If you eliminate ALL of Mason's 50+ yarders, and then compare him to the rest of the league ( NOT selectively removing their 50 yarders) he's STILL tied for #28 in the league out of 31 in fg %
How can there not be better options available?
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Monday, December 17, 2012 6:59:15 PM(UTC)
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If only McCarthy abandons Crosby as fast as he does the run.
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Tuesday, December 18, 2012 7:56:39 AM(UTC)
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I wouldn't say we are without options. If Crosby has just one more bad game v. TEN, I would not hesitate to bring Longwell in to kick all of our FGs, and release WR Ross. Keep Crosby for KOs. Use Longwell for FGs. We have to have some decent measure of confidence that we can make 30-50 yd FGs in the playoffs.
Hell, I wouldn't wait. I'd make that move now. Get Longwell acclimated back in GB. This game v. TEN is as important to us as any right now. We must insure we stay ahead of SEA, and at least try to get ahead of SF.
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Saturday, December 22, 2012 1:37:32 AM(UTC)
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Zero2Cool said: 
Much to the dismay of many ... there is not a better Kicker available. Packers are stuck with Mason Crosby.
This seems to be a popular opinion. And a stupid one. The Bears got Olindo Mare from his couch and made 2 fgs.
If you actually think one of the FA kickers out there can't make more than 50% of their fgs, you are out of your mind.
We don't need a Pro Bowler, we need someone who can make a 40 yard fg on a consistent basis.
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Saturday, December 22, 2012 10:28:47 AM(UTC)
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For the record, you cannot have Solid to Pro Bowl players at every position. I would MUCH rather have a Solid OL and a mediocre Kicker than a Solid Kicker and a mediocre OL.
$$$ is limited. I'd bet in the offseason,

goes for D and OL and we keep Crosby. Had our OL been even above average, we wouldn't be having this discussion. We'd be blowing out teams left and right. Our D is above average now and the ONLY thing holding us back on O is our OL.
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Saturday, December 22, 2012 4:00:38 PM(UTC)
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IronMan said: 
This seems to be a popular opinion. And a stupid one. The Bears got Olindo Mare from his couch and made 2 fgs.
If you actually think one of the FA kickers out there can't make more than 50% of their fgs, you are out of your mind.
We don't need a Pro Bowler, we need someone who can make a 40 yard fg on a consistent basis.
only
stupid people claim others opinions are stupid, so there.
and Crosby is fine with 40 yard field goals, its when you go 42, 43 and higher that he gets a little bit tricky lol ... and if its 50+ ... punt instead
20-29 4 of 4 - 100%
30-39 5 of 7 - 71.4%
40-49 7 of 10 - 70%
50+ 1 of 8 - 12.5%
20-49 16 of 21 - 76.2%
So, he's already above 50%, but really, I think a kicker needs to be 83% or higher on those. And missing two out of seven between 30-39 ... just feels shitty to me.
I'd like to see the Packers bring in a kicker to at least try someone else out.
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Sunday, December 30, 2012 6:32:15 PM(UTC)
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Statistically the worst kicker in the league.
That was a BEAUTIFUL field goal from 51. He'd have hit from 12 beyond that. I feel good about the boy going into the playoffs.
I only left him for 1 post. [duh]
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IronMan said: 
This seems to be a popular opinion. And a stupid one. The Bears got Olindo Mare from his couch and made 2 fgs.
If you actually think one of the FA kickers out there can't make more than 50% of their fgs, you are out of your mind.
We don't need a Pro Bowler, we need someone who can make a 40 yard fg on a consistent basis.
Have you changed your stance?
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