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Offline doddpower  
#41 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2012 9:08:33 PM(UTC)
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If the first half was disgusting, what adjective best describes:

a. The second half?
b. The game?

My answers:
a. Useless.
b. Viking-esque.



Embarrassing, mostly. I definitely feel bad for Rodgers having to play behind that offensive line.

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#42 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2012 9:11:33 PM(UTC)
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doddpower said: Go to Quoted Post
Embarrassing, mostly. I definitely feel bad for Rodgers having to play behind that offensive line.



Most of those sacks are on him because he has it in his mind that he has to complete the pass. It's fucking frustrating that he can't just throw the ball away. But yeah, the line isn't very good. Favre didn't get his good line until he was in his thirties.
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#43 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2012 9:17:41 PM(UTC)
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Most of those sacks are on him because he has it in his mind that he has to complete the pass. It's fucking frustrating that he can't just throw the ball away. But yeah, the line isn't very good. Favre didn't get his good line until he was in his thirties.


Eh, I can't blame Rodgers when the tackles are getting beat almost instantly. Consider how the Giants have been pressing the WRs at the line, there's simply no where to go with the ball. I guess he could instantly throw it away somehow every time, but he has to try to make a play at some point. Might as well run every play or punt on 1st down if they're not going to try to make a play.

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#44 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2012 9:18:08 PM(UTC)
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4th and 5 and they go for it instead of kicking the field goal. See this is the time of a lopsided game when I say it is justifiable to take a cheap shot on their quarterback.
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#45 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2012 9:21:17 PM(UTC)
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The Giants are the Cows of the 90s. Twice they knocked us out and the one SB we won, we avoided playing them.
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The Giants are the Cows of the 90s. Twice they knocked us out and the one SB we won, we avoided playing them.


It's a similar rivalry, but the Giants aren't as good.

There was no Herschel Walker trade to artificially build this team.
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#47 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2012 9:34:15 PM(UTC)
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Eh, I can't blame Rodgers when the tackles are getting beat almost instantly. Consider how the Giants have been pressing the WRs at the line, there's simply no where to go with the ball. I guess he could instantly throw it away somehow every time, but he has to try to make a play at some point. Might as well run every play or punt on 1st down if they're not going to try to make a play.



I can blame Rodgers. He is suppose to have such a great grasp of the offense. If he does, he should be seeing that the line is having difficulty and getting with McCarthy and saying, we need to do something to help these guys. But all I see are the same type plays over and over. 10 yard routes, or simple stops. We should be running screens, instant slants, drags underneath the LBers.

The entire offense seems to be, go deep. And if the throw isn't there, scramble and try to play ground it and get open. We use to run a slant from any WR position and defenses had to gamble if they could guess who was running it on a particular play.
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#48 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2012 9:43:05 PM(UTC)
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I can blame Rodgers. He is suppose to have such a great grasp of the offense. If he does, he should be seeing that the line is having difficulty and getting with McCarthy and saying, we need to do something to help these guys. But all I see are the same type plays over and over. 10 yard routes, or simple stops. We should be running screens, instant slants, drags underneath the LBers.

The entire offense seems to be, go deep. And if the throw isn't there, scramble and try to play ground it and get open. We use to run a slant from any WR position and defenses had to gamble if they could guess who was running it on a particular play.


Exactly. I don't like criticizing play calling, but you're right. The O-line is useless, so help'em out. All summer we hear about the 2.5 second clock they used, well if the plays take 2+ seconds to develop, what the hell is the point?!?
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#49 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2012 9:58:39 PM(UTC)
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I put a lot of the offensive struggles on the panic of Mike McCarthy jumping to the spread formations and basically allowed the defense to pin their ears back on a line that struggles with speed. Stay with formations that at least threaten the run.. you have to get that defense to at least pause... didn't happen. We have to get much more physical at the point of attack running the ball... but we have known that since.. what 2005/2006. We cannot be a one dimensional team to beat this type of defensive team.. one built on speed.

But the defense, that looked like a game out of last season. Sloppy tackling, spotty coverage, just getting popped in the nose snap after snap.

Couple that with 2 turnovers early that gave the Giants field position..


It all spelled a ass kicking.. hopefully one that benefits them moving forward.

I think if the Packers were ever going to shit can Campen.. this game should be a final nail.
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#50 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2012 10:00:43 PM(UTC)
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If there was even a hint of an attempt at adjusting the gameplan, I didn't see it. Green Bay's performance was despicable, despite their injuries to core players both on offense and defense.

The Packers have once again shown that they're a finesse team that functions best in domes.

And what the fuck was the gameplan anyway? Why was Rodgers forcing balls to Cobb? We have so many other players to use. Sure, the Giants were playing two deep the whole time, but that doesn't mean McCarthy can't call quick slants to guys like Jones and Nelson who excel when contact is thrown on them.

And what's up with all the Alex Green? Starks ran the ball like a horse last week, and he didn't see the ball until Harrell came in.

Ridiculous.
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