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Offline PackFanWithTwins  
#16 Posted : Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:49:53 AM(UTC)
The numbers don't agree. Here is the percentages we have run the ball.

06 - 40%, 07 - 40%, 08 - 44%, 09 - 44%, 10 - 43%, 11 - 41%.

As of current, this year we have run the ball 43% so we are pretty close to normal. For the number of plays run, 3% comes out <2 runs per game.

I don't think the problem is how often we run, more when those runs happen, and which runs are called.
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Offline QCHuskerFan  
#17 Posted : Wednesday, December 5, 2012 12:56:20 PM(UTC)
PackFanWithTwins said: Go to Quoted Post
The numbers don't agree. Here is the percentages we have run the ball.

06 - 40%, 07 - 40%, 08 - 44%, 09 - 44%, 10 - 43%, 11 - 41%.

As of current, this year we have run the ball 43% so we are pretty close to normal. For the number of plays run, 3% comes out <2 runs per game.

I don't think the problem is how often we run, more when those runs happen, and which runs are called.


I have no doubt and no desire to question your numbers. But let's look at the games we have lost. In 3 of the 4 games, we went significant periods of time with essentially no attempts to run the ball. After each of those games, Mike McCarthy criticized his playcalling for the lack of balance.

Stats can be used to justify many things. During the Giants game, GB had 23 designed runs. Pretty good, especially when you consider there were 28 designed pass plays. Stats show good balance. But the truth is 7 of those runs occured in the last couple minutes of the game when Aaron Rodgers was already on the bench. There was a series in the second half when Aaron Rodgers attempted a pass 8 out of 9 plays. But the end of game stats look good, right?
Offline Pack93z  
#18 Posted : Wednesday, December 5, 2012 1:04:46 PM(UTC)
QCHuskerFan said: Go to Quoted Post
I have no doubt and no desire to question your numbers. But let's look at the games we have lost. In 3 of the 4 games, we went significant periods of time with essentially no attempts to run the ball. After each of those games, Mike McCarthy criticized his playcalling for the lack of balance.

Stats can be used to justify many things. During the Giants game, GB had 23 designed runs. Pretty good, especially when you consider there were 28 designed pass plays. Stats show good balance. But the truth is 7 of those runs occured in the last couple minutes of the game when Aaron Rodgers was already on the bench. There was a series in the second half when Aaron Rodgers attempted a pass 8 out of 9 plays. But the end of game stats look good, right?


Not to long ago on here.. I compiled the numbers during Rodgers tenure.. we won like 80% of our games in which we ran 20+ times with the backs vs like ~ 42 % when we don't. With only a ~ +/- 2% increase in 4th quarter carries.

Attached is through week 6 of this season.

The basis was to show the impact on other facets of the game.. I did not expect that much of a variance in win % compared to the number of carries. YPC didn't have much of an impact.. and the # of Pass Attempts in relationship didn't change much. 1.5 more pass attempts on average for the games in which the backs didn't carry it 20 times.
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Offline AKampfan78  
#19 Posted : Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:14:13 AM(UTC)
For the life of me I cannot remember where I read this, but earlier in the season when there was noise about practices lacking and the scout team not providing a solid look there was an interesting story posted. Apparently Philbin took the role of coaching the scout team every day. I am sure someone has filled that role, but with anything there is an adjustment period.

Personally I do think Philbin is missed more then we ever imagined he would be. That is also not an excuse for the way the team has played this year. But having to adjust to his absence is certainly a part of the equation!
Offline PackerTraxx  
#20 Posted : Thursday, December 6, 2012 2:30:11 PM(UTC)
Clements > Philbin

Van Pelt > Clememts
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