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Pack93z  
#61 Posted : Saturday, January 5, 2013 9:37:36 PM(UTC)
all_about_da_packers said: Go to Quoted Post

Also, Walden did two things tonight: 1) earned himself a hell of a raise this offseason with his superb play tonight; and 2) proved that Moses should be starting and giving Walden regular breathers. When Walden is fresh, he is capable of playing at a very high level next to Clay. He might also provide a good option to spy on 49ers QB next week.


Two issues with Walden.. consistency being in the forefront.. one week looks good next week, his other issue takes center stage... Discipline. He is a undisciplined player at times.. most notably on setting the edge.. far to often he gets sucked inside to much and give the edge away.

Guy played a grade A game tonight.. gave up the edge at least once that I seen.. but that is nothing to complain about.
agopackgo4  
#62 Posted : Saturday, January 5, 2013 9:46:00 PM(UTC)
Love the way the Packers played tonight. Well...For three quarters at least. Loved getting to the quick hitters on offense. Weather it was dump offs to the RB's or the slants to WR's. Loved it all. It got a little ugly after the first drive of the third quarter. But still alive and going to San Francisco. I do wish they could have put this team away in grand fashion though.
all_about_da_packers  
#63 Posted : Saturday, January 5, 2013 9:49:03 PM(UTC)
Pack93z said: Go to Quoted Post
Two issues with Walden.. consistency being in the forefront.. one week looks good next week, his other issue takes center stage... Discipline. He is a undisciplined player at times.. most notably on setting the edge.. far to often he gets sucked inside to much and give the edge away.

Guy played a grade A game tonight.. gave up the edge at least once that I seen.. but that is nothing to complain about.


I think both issues may be the product of him being winded/tired. He is not, for whatever reason, capable of being a 3 down player for 4 quarters. I do not think it is a coincidence that almost all of the games where Walden has played very well are either in the first half of the season (last year) or when he has been regularly rotated in with another OLB (earlier part of this season with Perry, again tonight with Moses). I do not think it is a coincidence that when Claymaker was out, Walden was under performing relative to the start of the year.
porky88  
#64 Posted : Saturday, January 5, 2013 9:52:48 PM(UTC)
Pack93z said: Go to Quoted Post
Two issues with Walden.. consistency being in the forefront.. one week looks good next week, his other issue takes center stage... Discipline. He is a undisciplined player at times.. most notably on setting the edge.. far to often he gets sucked inside to much and give the edge away.

Guy played a grade A game tonight.. gave up the edge at least once that I seen.. but that is nothing to complain about.


In the first quarter, Walden bit on a bootleg that allowed Webb to scramble for 10 yards. After that, he seemed to settle in and play a very good game. With that said, I think Moses is a more discipline player. He plays containment much better and is tackling technique is solid. The fear, of course, is him dropping back in coverage.

It’s nice to get a playoff win, especially in Lambeau (first one in five years), but I think they’ll need to play better in order to defeat San Francisco. Their second-half effort on offense was not Super Bowl caliber.
Pack93z  
#65 Posted : Saturday, January 5, 2013 9:55:18 PM(UTC)
porky88 said: Go to Quoted Post
I think Moses is a more discipline player. He plays containment much better and is tackling technique is solid. The fear, of course, is him dropping back in coverage.


I have said this around here someplace.. I think Moses becomes that other edge rusher opposite Matthews in the near future.. needs to develop more than the speed rush... but I think he has the physical tools to do so.
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#66 Posted : Saturday, January 5, 2013 9:57:33 PM(UTC)
Pack93z said: Go to Quoted Post
I have said this around here someplace.. I think Moses becomes that other edge rusher opposite Matthews in the near future.. needs to develop more than the speed rush... but I think he has the physical tools to do so.


But Nick Perry plays the run much better. Coach Moses up to a pass rush specialist.
zombieslayer  
#67 Posted : Sunday, January 6, 2013 2:18:33 AM(UTC)
I told NSD that Woodson will be a difference in this game. I was right. Woodson was everywhere. He was consistently getting to AD. Sure, he didn't always drag him down, but at the very least, he slowed him down. Hats off to Woodson.

We got handed this game though. We didn't have to do much. Webb sucked. He reminds me of Wrecks Grossman in his level of ineptitude.

Formo, Vikesrule, you guys seriously need a QB. Ponder doesn't cut it and Webb is downright awful.

Mrs. Z and I just got back. I had 2 Guinness, 1 Scotch, 4 shots of bourbon, and probably a few other drinks I don't remember. Heck of a night. Different bar this time and got to sit with REAL Niners fans, which was nice considering I'm used to sitting with poseurs. Had a great time.

This victory is kind of bittersweet. Our O did look good but our D didn't really have to do anything. Webb handed us a lot and we took advantage of it. This wasn't a real game, folks. Niners will be a real test.
vikesrule  
#68 Posted : Sunday, January 6, 2013 5:32:04 AM(UTC)
zombieslayer said: Go to Quoted Post
...you guys seriously need a QB. Ponder doesn't cut it and Webb is downright awful.

Mrs. Z and I just got back. I had 2 Guinness, 1 Scotch, 4 shots of bourbon, and probably a few other drinks I don't remember. Heck of a night. Different bar this time and got to sit with REAL Niners fans, which was nice considering I'm used to sitting with poseurs. Had a great time.

....Niners will be a real test.


It was what it was, a very ugly game.

Sound like you had a good night ZS, I was watching the game at a little playoff party at a friends house.
Problem being, said friend is a major cheesehead.....took some shit last night, but oh well.

With that said, Vikings fans have every reason to be proud this year.
After the last couple of years, to go 10-6 in regular season, beat the 49'ers, the Texans and split with the Bears and Packers and make it to the playoffs.
I'll take that for now

No excuses for the playoff game, it was what it was.



Pack93z  
#69 Posted : Sunday, January 6, 2013 7:47:06 AM(UTC)
vikesrule said: Go to Quoted Post


With that said, Vikings fans have every reason to be proud this year.
After the last couple of years, to go 10-6 in regular season, beat the 49'ers, the Texans and split with the Bears and Packers and make it to the playoffs.
I'll take that for now



Correct, the Vikes have nothing to hang their heads about. Nothing.

And many are forgetting the Ponder is still in his second year playing on a team that has a weak collection of receivers and Ponder himself was green coming in from Florida State. As and FSU fan, I can tell you he needed more time.. he should have been allowed to develop (like Rodgers) behind a veteran. The Vikings screwed themselves when they picked the veteran to be McNabb. So that threw Ponder into the fire and probably will stunt his growth for a bit. But at times this season he showed that he can be that player they need him to be... will he ever be a top 5 QB in this league? The depends on him putting in the work to do so and not chasing his blonde around.

I have no issue saying Ponder will become a better QB than say Cutler... his mental makeup on the field seems much more complete. And talent wise, I think he has all the physical tools to do so.

The issue for the Vikings is will that happen before AP becomes a shadow of himself... like this year a missed chance to capitalize with the best player in the game this season.
Pack93z  
#70 Posted : Sunday, January 6, 2013 7:51:57 AM(UTC)
zombieslayer said: Go to Quoted Post
I told NSD that Woodson will be a difference in this game. I was right. Woodson was everywhere. He was consistently getting to AD. Sure, he didn't always drag him down, but at the very least, he slowed him down. Hats off to Woodson.


Woodson helped... but that was not the real factor.. that happened right at the LOS with the front seven, sometimes eight, playing the run first and remaining disciplined in their roles of sealing their responsibilities down. We pinched inside and remainder stout on the edges.. AP simply didn't have those cutbacks and lanes to exploit.

A couple time Matthews and Walden got pinched in... but for the most part the interior walled it off and we kept him from getting to the edge. If anyone gets a game ball... it should be BJ, Pick, Wilson, Neal, Matthews, Walden, Moses, Hawk, Jones, Etc. They are the grunts that let Woodson, Burnett, etc to come in and finish some of the plays off.
play2win  
#71 Posted : Sunday, January 6, 2013 8:02:15 AM(UTC)
play2win said: Go to Quoted Post
I do think being in MIN last week had a huge effect on the outcome of the game, and I believe now that the game is on our turf, we will see a different result, with GB winning. Something tells me we hold AD to under 100 yds... These Packers players are going to be jacked!


99 yds....

:-)

29 rushing attempts by our RBs. Awesome!!!!!! That is the recipe to take us all the way. 25-35 rushing attempts will get us there.

Great win!!!! Like others here, I wish we had moved the ball in the 4th Q, but they at least know they've got something to work on before heading to SF. Go get 'em Pack!!!
buckeyepackfan  
#72 Posted : Sunday, January 6, 2013 8:23:08 AM(UTC)
buckeyepackfan said: Go to Quoted Post
Vikings come to Lambeau and beat The Packers, I'll tip my hat to them.
AD might go for another 200yds, but just as before, it will not be enough.

Last weeks game proved one thing, the hardest thing to do in The NFL is to win on the road.

It took an almost perfect game by The Vikings, added to a sub-par game by The Packers D for The Vikings to squeak out a victory at home.

Home field-Advantage Packers
Special Teams-Advantage Packers
Defense-Push
Offense-Advantage Packers
PLAYOFF EXPERIENCE-Advantage Packers

I am betting Christian Ponder cannot have anohter 120+ qb rating.

I am betting Aaron Rodgers lights up the depleted Viking db's.

I am betting The Packers O-line will not give up a sack.

I am betting Vikings playing outside in 20 degree weather with the snow flying will realize about the end of the 1st quarter, they really don't belong in the play-offs.

This is Wild-Card weekend, time to weed out the pretenders, and let the contenders move on.

There is nothing that went wrong last week that can't be fixed. Just a few mental errors that really cost The Packers.

Hate to break it to you few gloom and doomers out there who just sit and wait for a mistake to be made so you can bitch, you are going to be very quiet Saturday night.

Packers 38 Vikings 13


How'd I do?
Ponder couldn't answer the bell, got that one right. Smile

Aaron Rodgers posted a 104.9 passer rating(23 of 33, 274 yards, one TD) Gonna give myself another "yes", Seemed like once Packers went up 24-3, they just wanted to run the clock as much as possible and get the game finished. Another "Yes" Smile

O-line did give up a few sacks, so I have to give myself a "no" on this one, but as I reviewd the game, All the sacks in 1st half and most in 2nd half was Aaron trying to find an open receiver and instead of throwing away the ball,or throwing into coverage, he took the sack. Mad

IMHO it took till the end of the 1st half for Vikings to realize they were done. Mostly because Mike McCarthy once again deferred and The Vikings chewed up almost 7 min of the 1st quarter and kicked the FG. Hell I'm gonna give myself a "yes" anyway. Smile

3 out of 4, I'll take it.

On to Frisco, 3 point underdog. really??? What's that you say Woody???
"WE'RE NOBODY'S UNDERDOG"

GO! PACK! GO!
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#73 Posted : Sunday, January 6, 2013 9:00:34 AM(UTC)
buckeyepackfan said: Go to Quoted Post
How'd I do?
Ponder couldn't answer the bell, got that one right. Smile

Aaron Rodgers posted a 104.9 passer rating(23 of 33, 274 yards, one TD) Gonna give myself another "yes", Seemed like once Packers went up 24-3, they just wanted to run the clock as much as possible and get the game finished. Another "Yes" Smile

O-line did give up a few sacks, so I have to give myself a "no" on this one, but as I reviewd the game, All the sacks in 1st half and most in 2nd half was Aaron trying to find an open receiver and instead of throwing away the ball,or throwing into coverage, he took the sack. Mad

IMHO it took till the end of the 1st half for Vikings to realize they were done. Mostly because Mike McCarthy once again deferred and The Vikings chewed up almost 7 min of the 1st quarter and kicked the FG. Hell I'm gonna give myself a "yes" anyway. Smile

3 out of 4, I'll take it.

On to Frisco, 3 point underdog. really??? What's that you say Woody???
"WE'RE NOBODY'S UNDERDOG"

GO! PACK! GO!


And the best part for you is that I can't argue with you for a whole year. I'll just have to take all your hypothesis on the Packers, read them, and then bite my tongue. Do you realize how painful that will be? But it was totally worth it.
play2win  
#74 Posted : Sunday, January 6, 2013 9:19:28 AM(UTC)
buckeyepackfan said: Go to Quoted Post
How'd I do?
Ponder couldn't answer the bell, got that one right. Smile

Aaron Rodgers posted a 104.9 passer rating(23 of 33, 274 yards, one TD) Gonna give myself another "yes", Seemed like once Packers went up 24-3, they just wanted to run the clock as much as possible and get the game finished. Another "Yes" Smile

O-line did give up a few sacks, so I have to give myself a "no" on this one, but as I reviewd the game, All the sacks in 1st half and most in 2nd half was Aaron trying to find an open receiver and instead of throwing away the ball,or throwing into coverage, he took the sack. Mad

IMHO it took till the end of the 1st half for Vikings to realize they were done. Mostly because Mike McCarthy once again deferred and The Vikings chewed up almost 7 min of the 1st quarter and kicked the FG. Hell I'm gonna give myself a "yes" anyway. Smile

3 out of 4, I'll take it.

On to Frisco, 3 point underdog. really??? What's that you say Woody???
"WE'RE NOBODY'S UNDERDOG"

GO! PACK! GO!


Nice buckeypackfan! Well done!

Yeah, this one was big, as they all are. We got the Win. Hopefully we can build on this, learn from the mistakes we did make and raise our game for a much tougher opponent. Time to build.

Our OL needs to step it up bigtime, and McCarthy needs to keep his foot on the gas with the running game.
wpr  
#75 Posted : Sunday, January 6, 2013 9:33:23 AM(UTC)
macbob said: Go to Quoted Post
Bruised vagina.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/s...atchup-green-bay-packers


Webb will be starting. Makes AP even more important to Vikings game plan.


pretty impressive. He beat Culter's time in folding like a cheap suit in a must win playoff game. There are not many NFL QB's who can claim that.
wpr  
#76 Posted : Sunday, January 6, 2013 9:59:47 AM(UTC)
gbguy20, I thought of pming you and getting together before the game but we ended up running late so it wouldn't have worked out.

cheesey, thought of you on my way through grafton and environs both heading to and returning from gb.

we had a great time.

The only problem we had was on the Packer drive to begin the 2nd half. I was watching the game when the dude behind me landed right on my back and threw me forward. I was able to get my hands up and into the backs of the two men in the row in front of me shoving them forward. Because my weight was on two of them they were shoved forward but able to keep their seats. (and not spill their beers. only a half glass left. for each of them.)

Apparently some drunk about 3 rows behind me got mad at the guy in front of him. I don't know if the guy in the lower row stood up to confront him, my guess is that he did. jerk in the 3rd row took a punch at him knocking him back into the guy right behind me. He in turn fell on me. I am assuming that was both of them on my back but I could not turn to look until they both got off of me. That took a little time.

Drunk 3 rows back was screaming at the guy he hit. And telling everyone to call security. Someone must have because one of the ushers showed up. Prior to this several people pointed out that he threw the punch so he would be asked to leave as well.

The usher asked the guy who got hit to leave along with his gf. I was trying to watch the game and KUUUHHHHHNNNNN's td (reception.) so I missed some of the details. I think he got up and left. 3 cops showed up and they had to drag the girl out.

Surprisingly the guy who threw the punch did not have to leave. I thought once Barney Fife got the couple up to the concourse and questioned them, the ops would come back down and take the other guy out for punching. (I am sure he will be fined by the NFL office after they watch tape of the game.) :-"

Piecing it together it sounds like the chick was groping on her guy. (According to the story of the guy who threw the punch.) bf was trying to return the favor and ended up getting the guy behind him who probably took umbrage that it wasn't the girl who was getting him. Shrug

It doesn't make sense to me since everyone had on some many layers and and how could the guy miss the girl sitting right next to him and grab the guy a row back? Now that is drunk.

During all of this my son went "Army" and was about to get into the fray and kill on my behalf. I asked him to let it go. It took him a while to calm down. I think he was going to go up the three rows and take out the guy who threw the punch.

I was thinking of telling my support guys in front of me I's buy them a beer but sales were shut off when the half ended instead of the end of the 3rd Q.

Fortunately the woman to my right was not in her seat. She is 4' 5" in heels (exaggeration this is football. She is only 4'2" and I have to fudge i her officially listed height.) and they would have hurt her if they landed on her.

zombieslayer  
#77 Posted : Sunday, January 6, 2013 11:49:47 AM(UTC)
That really sucks. Stupid drunks. [mfing]
zombieslayer  
#78 Posted : Sunday, January 6, 2013 11:56:57 AM(UTC)
vikesrule said: Go to Quoted Post
It was what it was, a very ugly game.

Sound like you had a good night ZS, I was watching the game at a little playoff party at a friends house.
Problem being, said friend is a major cheesehead.....took some shit last night, but oh well.

With that said, Vikings fans have every reason to be proud this year.
After the last couple of years, to go 10-6 in regular season, beat the 49'ers, the Texans and split with the Bears and Packers and make it to the playoffs.
I'll take that for now

No excuses for the playoff game, it was what it was.





Yes, you should be proud. Your team did better than what was to be expected. But read what I wrote to Pack93z below.

Pack93z said:
Woodson helped... but that was not the real factor.. that happened right at the LOS with the front seven, sometimes eight, playing the run first and remaining disciplined in their roles of sealing their responsibilities down. We pinched inside and remainder stout on the edges.. AP simply didn't have those cutbacks and lanes to exploit.

A couple time Matthews and Walden got pinched in... but for the most part the interior walled it off and we kept him from getting to the edge. If anyone gets a game ball... it should be BJ, Pick, Wilson, Neal, Matthews, Walden, Moses, Hawk, Jones, Etc. They are the grunts that let Woodson, Burnett, etc to come in and finish some of the plays off.


You may be right. I'll have to watch it again.

Frankly, we found the game boring and I wasn't too proud after winning this game. The game was handed to us. We didn't face the Vikings from Week 17. This was the junior varsity version of the Week 17 Vikings team.

I sincerely hope we don't go into SF being cocky.

And one last thing, I take back all the crap I said about Christian Ponder. He COMPLETELY EXCEEDED my expectations. Had he been in the game, I may be writing a check to VR right now.
dhazer  
#79 Posted : Sunday, January 6, 2013 12:32:12 PM(UTC)
I personally think that Webb starting really helped us and not because he can't throw the ball but his running. With the threat of him running kept our d-line in there assigned gaps, which AP was killing us with in the other games. Plus remember the 9ers have a scrambling qb and I don't think he is that great of a passer. Yes I know he is better than Webb but seriously I think Zero can throw better than him :)


I don't know about anyone else, but is this season kinda following the same as '10? We have alot of injuries during the year and get healthy for the playoffs and out of no where we find a running back that can be a threat.

I am liking what I see and I don't fear the 9ers and I really don't fear the Falcons, but then again I don't think the Falcons will win next week
dfosterf  
#80 Posted : Sunday, January 6, 2013 12:47:08 PM(UTC)
Jerry Rice absolutely fumbled that friggin' football, and now I want my payback.

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