Green Bay Packers Forum

Welcome to your Green Bay Packers Online Community!

Since 2006, PackersHome has been providing a unique experience for fans.
Your participation is greatly anticipated!
Login or Register.
3 Pages123>
Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Offline Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:24:33 PM(UTC)
Rank: Premier Member

Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Gold: 2015Yahoo! Fantasy Football - Gold: 2009FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2011FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2016ESPN NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2013

United States
Joined: 10/13/2006(UTC)
Location: Green Bay, WI
Applause Given: 2,502
Applause Received: 4,048
This could probably tie directly with this thread ... oh well.


I've seen and heard a lot of chatter that the MVP race is between Adrian Peterson and Peyton Manning. I think that is absurd. True, Manning came back after more than 18 months away from football and several surgeries, but he wasn’t even the best passer in the NFL statistically speaking. Aaron Rodgers threw two more touchdowns, three less interceptions and had a higher quarterback rating by 2.2 points AND did this on the heals of a 15 – 1 season in which he won the MVP. That means, he was targeted every game as the primary weapon to stop and he still was not stopped! Manning came in with defenses more worried about their running game than him and he made them pay for it.

If you’re going to pair a quarterback and Adrian Peterson, the only one worth mentioning is Aaron Rodgers. And with that said, even though it bothers me like no other to acknowledge this … there is no one who deserves the MVP more than Adrian Peterson. If anyone gets it besides him, they should throw the award away for 2013 and beyond because it obviously does not go to the right person.
Offline gbguy20  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, January 9, 2013 2:46:19 PM(UTC)
Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 8/28/2009(UTC)
Applause Given: 462
Applause Received: 497
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
This could probably tie directly with this thread ... oh well.


I've seen and heard a lot of chatter that the MVP race is between Adrian Peterson and Peyton Manning. I think that is absurd. True, Manning came back after more than 18 months away from football and several surgeries, but he wasn’t even the best passer in the NFL statistically speaking. Aaron Rodgers threw two more touchdowns, three less interceptions and had a higher quarterback rating by 2.2 points AND did this on the heals of a 15 – 1 season in which he won the MVP. That means, he was targeted every game as the primary weapon to stop and he still was not stopped! Manning came in with defenses more worried about their running game than him and he made them pay for it.

If you’re going to pair a quarterback and Adrian Peterson, the only one worth mentioning is Aaron Rodgers. And with that said, even though it bothers me like no other to acknowledge this … there is no one who deserves the MVP more than Adrian Peterson. If anyone gets it besides him, they should throw the award away for 2013 and beyond because it obviously does not go to the right person.


I've been saying the same thing. My vote (lol) goes to Adrian all the way this year. However, if I had to choose between Rodgers and Manning, the vote easily goes to Rodgers. his stats are better, his numbers over the last 40 games are absolutely staggering (this isn't even homerism talking, I can't understand how no one seems to be following this line of thought).
Offline Gaycandybacon  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, January 9, 2013 2:47:18 PM(UTC)
Rank: Member

United States
Joined: 9/17/2012(UTC)
Applause Given: 146
Applause Received: 187
AP definitely gets my vote. I won't be surprised if Manning gets it but, AP was the most dominant player in the NFL this season, and that's what the MVP is all about. He had 99 yards in the playoff game and that was a win for that Packers defense?! Simply amazing. And for all accounts that's an average game for ap... Rodgers won't get it. And that's ok because I'd rather see Arod hoist that Lombardi again than get the MVP.
Offline musccy  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, January 9, 2013 3:15:23 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

Joined: 5/7/2009(UTC)
Location: Pennsylvania
Applause Given: 773
Applause Received: 759
Peyton also had about 300 more yards, better YPA, a better completion %, and his team went from 8-8 to 13-3, while ARod's went from 15-1 to 11-5.

With that said, I still feel A.P. deserves it, and I feel ARod had at least as good of a season as Peyton. I'm just saying we're letting our green and gold glasses get in the way by cherry picking statistics that are convenient to the argument we want to make.
Offline PackFanWithTwins  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, January 9, 2013 6:09:49 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

Joined: 9/26/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 26
Applause Received: 962
Peterson should win and without a question. Peyton deserves comeback player, he actually missed a season and was close to having his career over.

Rodgers has had a very good season, but he has been off all year. His stats look good, but with this team they should have been even better. I put a good portion of the loses this year on his shoulders along with McCarthy. They were both stubborn and thought that they could keep calling and running plays with the receivers running directly into the heart of these cover 2 defenses. It hasn't been until the very end of the season, where we are seeing some change. I expect a QB with Rodgers knowledge of the offense to go to the coach and say we need to change because we are not having success, or because the pass rush is killing us, or the defense is sitting where we are trying to run routes.

If they had not been so stubborn, I think he easily would have been 45-50 TDs instead of just 39.
Offline Zero2Cool  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, January 9, 2013 7:24:42 PM(UTC)
Rank: Premier Member

Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Gold: 2015Yahoo! Fantasy Football - Gold: 2009FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2011FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2016ESPN NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2013

United States
Joined: 10/13/2006(UTC)
Location: Green Bay, WI
Applause Given: 2,502
Applause Received: 4,048
I resent the notion that I wear any green gold glasses. I am an analyst and take pride in that so any assumption of bias is offensive. Well, okay, when it comes to Barry Sanders, sure, some bias could be valid there. :P

When everything is added up, Aaron had a better year than Peyton even when everyone was keying in on Aaron. Also, Aaron played WR hot potato and RB hot potato with a sub-par OL that replaced two or three starters. I think Peyton had one OL starter and one RB out. That fact can not be over looked. He was schemed against, Peyton was not, initially.


I'm more upset that the clowns in the media are so quick to hand it to Peyton than them ignoring Aaron. It's clear as heck Adrian Peterson should win it. After all, being a Viking this is the only award he has a chance of wining, ever.
thanks Post received 1 applause.
yooperfan on 1/9/2013(UTC)
Offline RajiRoar  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, January 9, 2013 7:30:59 PM(UTC)
Rank: Senior Member

United States
Joined: 9/30/2009(UTC)
Applause Given: 50
Applause Received: 369
AP +9 would have a much better chance at winning it, but since this is the MVQB award he is ineligible.

AP had the 2nd most yards ALL TIME at his position, Peyton's numbers aren't even comparable to Rodgers' just last year, or Brady in 07.

and even though the Broncos went from 8-8 to 13-3.. remember they were 8-8 with TIM TEBOW and KYLE ORTON. It doesn't take much to upgrade from that trash.

AP deserves the vote.

Heck. looking at it now, you could easily argue Rodgers over Manning as well.
thanks Post received 1 applause.
Gaycandybacon on 1/10/2013(UTC)
Offline PackFanWithTwins  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, January 9, 2013 9:52:29 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

Joined: 9/26/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 26
Applause Received: 962
The media and talking heads are way over playing Peyton. The Broncos were not a bad team last year, they had bad QBs but they managed to make the playoffs and win with a TE playing QB. And the Colts were not nearly as bad as their record talent wise, they just gave up, and Luck has come in and taken them straight to the playoffs as a rookie.

But like much of the NFL awards, name is a huge factor, and the press he has gotten because of his injury just magnifies that.
Offline Dulak  
#9 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 2:06:28 AM(UTC)
Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 1/19/2009(UTC)
Location: London, UK (from kenosha)
Applause Given: 299
Applause Received: 152
RajiRoar said: Go to Quoted Post
remember they were 8-8 with TIM TEBOW and KYLE ORTON. It doesn't take much to upgrade from that trash.



Lol

I agree - denvers D is solid - and their O line and RB position are much more solid then the packers.

Offline Cheesey  
#10 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 4:48:22 PM(UTC)
Rank: Select Member

United States
Joined: 7/28/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 802
Applause Received: 937
It's fuuny, but true, that had Rodgers NOT had the incredible season he had last year, he'd probably be at the top of everyone's list.
He cost his own votes, because he's being unfairly compared to his last season, which i doubt anyone else could have had.
Base this MVP vote while ignoring last season's numbers.
Rss Feed 
Users browsing this topic
Guest
3 Pages123>
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error


Fan Shout
uffda udfa (1h) : It's just fine.
musccy (1h) : 5 questionable Packers, none for Falcons. Not good.
uffda udfa (1h) : Jordy not listed as OUT or DOUBTFUL. Questionable on injury report.
uffda udfa (2h) : This is the 6th straight game we've faced someone for the 2nd time. We learn.
uffda udfa (2h) : Aaron: I like our role. I like our chances. (said he relishes being an underdog)
uffda udfa (2h) : Aaron alludes to fake crowd noise at Georgia Dome for Sunday.
uffda udfa (3h) : So, to recap. Losing streak "just the way it is", winning streak "astronomical feat". #Balanced
uffda udfa (3h) : Ironically, he called the turn around "astronomical" not just the way it is in the NFL. #Don'tMissTheIrony
uffda udfa (3h) : Ted tells Demovsky the Packers weren't underachieving when 4-6. Just the way it is in the NFL????
Zero2Cool (7h) : Only time I recall getting annoyed is when they beat a single topic over and over and over.
Pack93z (7h) : Most yes... Heller seems to get it more so... diversity in his coverage... but seemingly can highlight the pressing issues properly.
Zero2Cool (7h) : I'm kind of in the boat that they all are babblying boonies.
Pack93z (7h) : God bless it... Bill Michaels can be a stubborn SOB at times... love his Packers coverage, still think he is a buffoon at times.
Zero2Cool (8h) : Jordy Nelson Named PFWA Comeback Player of the Year
Zero2Cool (9h) : Carter is predicitng the end is in ATL for Packers.
Porforis (9h) : Or I could just completely miss the part where that was Cris Carter.
Porforis (9h) : Careful there. Don't you want to predict a Packers loss just in case?
Zero2Cool (10h) : @criscarter80 :Every fairy tale comes to an end, and this is where the magic carpet ride stops in the ATL.
Zero2Cool (10h) : McCarthy: "JC Tretter actually had surgery Tuesday. He won't be available this week"
Zero2Cool (11h) : Crosby is fine now. Full Participant in practice Thursday
Porforis (12h) : What I'm more worried about at this point is WR injuries and Crosby being sick. Who'd be the backup if Crosby can't go?
Zero2Cool (12h) : We do have hope. Our secondary has improved. Also, he had to throw 80% to get 1 point up. That won't happen again.
Zero2Cool (12h) : I like to tease sometimes.
uffda udfa (12h) : Only 80%? :). We lost by one given that stat? Wish we had hope of tightening up.
uffda udfa (12h) : Z, u should tell everyone who Quintorris is. Quintorris Lopez Jones, better known as Julio.
Zero2Cool (12h) : Matt Ryan completed 80% of his passes against Packers in October.
uffda udfa (12h) : McGinn goes full on attack mode dismissing the notion of "Packers people". Harsh.
uffda udfa (12h) : McGinn says John Dorsey likely to be next Packers GM.
Zero2Cool (15h) : Boom! Davante Adams says last year's ankle injury "more difficult to deal with'
uffda udfa (18h) : Packers brass potentially leaving? Not worthy of discussing. Pressure Cooker? Never enough talk about them.
Zero2Cool (20-Jan) : Put Quintorris in a pressure cooker.
uffda udfa (19-Jan) : Back to football: Julio says he's going to play Sunday. Did NOT say he wouldn't be limited in the game.
uffda udfa (19-Jan) : Anyone ever used their dishwasher to make their Thanksgiving turkey?
uffda udfa (19-Jan) : Favorite Ronnie Milsap song? Smokey Mountain Rain or Any Day Now?
uffda udfa (19-Jan) : Favorite GM candidate... Wolf or Gutekunst?
Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2016 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 11 @ 12:00 PM
at Jaguars
Sunday, Sep 18 @ 7:30 PM
at Vikings
Sunday, Sep 25 @ 12:00 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Oct 2 @ 12:00 AM
BYE
Sunday, Oct 9 @ 7:30 PM
GIANTS
Sunday, Oct 16 @ 3:25 PM
COWBOYS
Thursday, Oct 20 @ 7:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Oct 30 @ 3:25 PM
at Falcons
Sunday, Nov 6 @ 3:25 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Nov 13 @ 12:00 PM
at Titans
Sunday, Nov 20 @ 7:30 PM
at Redskins
Monday, Nov 28 @ 7:30 PM
at Eagles
Sunday, Dec 4 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Dec 11 @ 3:25 PM
SEAHAWKS
Sunday, Dec 18 @ 12:00 PM
at Bears
Saturday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Jan 1 @ 7:30 PM
at Lions

Think About It
Think About It

Recent Topics
32m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Barfarn

38m / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

40m / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

56m / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / The_Green_Ninja

4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / sschind

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / DoddPower

7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

11h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

12h / Green Bay Packers Talk / DarkaneRules

13h / Fantasy Sports Talk / SINCITYCHEEZE


Packers Headlines