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Offline wpr  
#51 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:42:03 PM(UTC)
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I suppose now I'll get my invitation to meet in GB?


you make it to GB and I can come up and meet you. Maybe we'll go pound on Kevin's door.
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#52 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2013 10:29:14 AM(UTC)
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I don't see why they are not playing the same scheme as last week against Minnesota. I can't believe the way this defense is playing right now. It's embarrassing. Big play after big play, especially on third downs. Make some damn adjustments already! Stop blitzing and hold the line!


Exactly what should have been the plan. Should have sat back in contain at the line of scrimmage and treated Kaepernick and Gore like we did Peterson. Should not have let those guys out.

Really poor scheming against SF. Again. Add to that, we didn't have the horses to run with them. We just didn't. Looked like our players were a lower level of talent nearly across the board.
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#53 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2013 4:30:44 PM(UTC)
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Exactly what should have been the plan. Should have sat back in contain at the line of scrimmage and treated Kaepernick and Gore like we did Peterson. Should not have let those guys out.

Really poor scheming against SF. Again. Add to that, we didn't have the horses to run with them. We just didn't. Looked like our players were a lower level of talent nearly across the board.


The Packers were playing "contain" for most of the game. That's the main reason there was little to no pass rush as most the players were focusing on keeping Kap in the pocket. Re-watch the game. It's just on most of the long runs, the contain did not work. That's a big difference. Either the OLB read the read-option wrong, or Kap was still able to escape the four man contain. I think I even saw some 4 man contain with one and sometimes two spies. It just wasn't working, and that falls on both the coaching staff and the players for not executing properly. A lot of credit also has to be given to the 49'ers, especially the QB and their beastly offensive line. The Packers were simply outmatched and unprepared.
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#54 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2013 7:46:32 PM(UTC)
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Yes, DJ SMITH!

Finished with over 500 tackles in college, and most were vs. Option/Spread teams.
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#55 Posted : Monday, January 14, 2013 10:58:31 AM(UTC)
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SF did a great job of blocking up front. They blocked us so there were escape lanes, as was shown.

On one of the big runs, Walden collapsed inside whick gave kapernick the edge. But if you watch that same play, if Walden didn't collapse, there was a HUGE hole for Gore. It was the same on the dump pass to gore over Woody. If woody had turned to stay with Gore, Kapernick keeps the ball, if Woody drops off Gore to protect against the QB run, dump the ball over his head.
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#56 Posted : Monday, January 14, 2013 11:36:34 AM(UTC)
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SF did a great job of blocking up front. They blocked us so there were escape lanes, as was shown.

On one of the big runs, Walden collapsed inside whick gave kapernick the edge. But if you watch that same play, if Walden didn't collapse, there was a HUGE hole for Gore. It was the same on the dump pass to gore over Woody. If woody had turned to stay with Gore, Kapernick keeps the ball, if Woody drops off Gore to protect against the QB run, dump the ball over his head.


Was there not a LB at least close to step up and seal up the gap, even if it was a decent gain? I can't remember. If not, I'm sure there was supposed to be. I imagine Walden's responsibility was to maintain the edge, regardless of what opened up inside. It's very likely more than one player was at fault, but when playing that type of offense, players have to maintain their individual responsibilities or we see what happens.
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#57 Posted : Monday, January 14, 2013 11:37:51 AM(UTC)
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Was there not a LB at least close to step up and seal up the gap, even if it was a decent gain? I can't remember. If not, I'm sure there was supposed to be. I imagine Walden's responsibility was to maintain the edge, regardless of what opened up inside. It's very likely more than one player was at fault, but when playing that type of offense, players have to maintain their individual responsibilities or we see what happens.


according to walden he did his job on said play

something tells me having ur back to the guy with the ball isn't doing ur job but what do i know
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#58 Posted : Monday, January 14, 2013 11:51:18 AM(UTC)
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according to walden he did his job on said play

something tells me having ur back to the guy with the ball isn't doing ur job but what do i know


heh, yeah, admittedly I didn't study the play that closely, or know the specific assignments of every player for that defensive call. I simply have better things to do than to study a NFL play for that long. I do, however, remember Jones attempting to come over to contain that outside, but if that was his assignment, he was WAY out of position, or so it would seem. It wasn't even close. Whether it was Walden or anyone else, it doesn't really matter. The end result was the same. It's understandable as to why Walden would get the blame from the fans though, because he has consistently been un-disciplined in doing so.
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#59 Posted : Monday, January 14, 2013 12:17:28 PM(UTC)
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Was there not a LB at least close to step up and seal up the gap, even if it was a decent gain? I can't remember. If not, I'm sure there was supposed to be. I imagine Walden's responsibility was to maintain the edge, regardless of what opened up inside. It's very likely more than one player was at fault, but when playing that type of offense, players have to maintain their individual responsibilities or we see what happens.


This if from memory, not watching a replay at the moment. I could see a LB/S but not in position to make the play. Gore would have had a wide open outside just like Kapernick. I agree on Walden's assignment. Don't recall anybody outside. He needs to learn that it isn't a bad thing to admit to a mistake.
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