Green Bay Packers Forum

Welcome to your Green Bay Packers Online Community!

Since 2006, PackersHome has been providing a unique experience for fans.
Your participation is greatly anticipated!
Login or Register.
5 Pages123>»
Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Offline CaliforniaCheez  
#1 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:45:04 PM(UTC)
Rank: Member

Joined: 9/15/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 6
Applause Received: 154
The loss in the playoffs to the 49'ers had a lot of plays where their QB just blew past Walden and Matthews. Matthews was on the ground a lot. He and Walden never demonstrated much outside containment or concern for the overall scheme.

Greene just could not get them to show any intelligence or ability to get the job done. Greene did not have them adjust and he never pulled them for their poor performance.

Will McCarthy fire him and get a better OLB coach?
Offline all_about_da_packers  
#2 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:50:41 PM(UTC)
Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 8/7/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 24
Applause Received: 144
CaliforniaCheez said: Go to Quoted Post
The loss in the playoffs to the 49'ers had a lot of plays where their QB just blew past Walden and Matthews. Matthews was on the ground a lot. He and Walden never demonstrated much outside containment or concern for the overall scheme.

Greene just could not get them to show any intelligence or ability to get the job done. Greene did not have them adjust and he never pulled them for their poor performance.

Will McCarthy fire him and get a better OLB coach?



Perhaps the most sensible thread of the night (I'm serious).

Clay has absolutely been horrible at containment. I get he has the athleticism and motor to make things happen from scratch, but he has generally been horrendous at playing containment.

I would guess 'No' because McCarthy seems to be loyal, and Green has done a good enough job to help his players develop (especially Moses this season). But, boy, based on what I was seeing tonight Kevin Green would be the first coach on defense who has some serious explaining to do.
Online dyeah_gb  
#3 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:58:15 PM(UTC)
Rank: Member

Joined: 8/22/2009(UTC)
Applause Given: 57
Applause Received: 61
CaliforniaCheez said: Go to Quoted Post
The loss in the playoffs to the 49'ers had a lot of plays where their QB just blew past Walden and Matthews. Matthews was on the ground a lot. He and Walden never demonstrated much outside containment or concern for the overall scheme.

Greene just could not get them to show any intelligence or ability to get the job done. Greene did not have them adjust and he never pulled them for their poor performance.

Will McCarthy fire him and get a better OLB coach?


I think this a valid question. I see a pattern here that the question "should xxx be fired" should be applied to just about every element of the staff. This is not just a reactionary. It really is a matter of thinking critically about what this team believes it is capable of and how much practice and preparation helps bring the team to its full potential. In the end, any staff changes should not be a vindication of a playoff loss (like DC with 4th and 26), it should be about pointing this team in the right direction to get a title.
Offline gbguy20  
#4 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2013 10:04:20 PM(UTC)
Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 8/28/2009(UTC)
Applause Given: 458
Applause Received: 495
CaliforniaCheez said: Go to Quoted Post
The loss in the playoffs to the 49'ers had a lot of plays where their QB just blew past Walden and Matthews. Matthews was on the ground a lot. He and Walden never demonstrated much outside containment or concern for the overall scheme.

Greene just could not get them to show any intelligence or ability to get the job done. Greene did not have them adjust and he never pulled them for their poor performance.

Will McCarthy fire him and get a better OLB coach?


Walden was pulled after colin's long td run, moses replaced him. defense did not improve. just sayin
Offline CaliforniaCheez  
#5 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2013 10:14:37 PM(UTC)
Rank: Member

Joined: 9/15/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 6
Applause Received: 154
Matthews is a one trick pony.
Has he improved since he was a rookie?
Has he learned yet how to properly stretch his hamstrings before playing or are they always getting injured?
Can he cover anyone in space better?
Does he play under control or over run plays?


Do Walden and Zombo really lack the talent or could they improve with better coaching?

Why would a rookie like Moses show so much discipline? Is it because he has the least amount of Kevin Greene coaching?
Offline gbguy20  
#6 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2013 10:16:22 PM(UTC)
Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 8/28/2009(UTC)
Applause Given: 458
Applause Received: 495
CaliforniaCheez said: Go to Quoted Post
Matthews is a one trick pony.
Has he improved since he was a rookie?

Has he learned yet how to properly stretch his hamstrings before playing or are they always getting injured?
Can he cover anyone in space better?
Does he play under control or over run plays?


Do Walden and Zombo really lack the talent or could they improve with better coaching?

Why would a rookie like Moses show so much discipline? Is it because he has the least amount of Kevin Greene coaching?


uihauhauhauhaahaha
Offline wpr  
#7 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2013 7:55:54 AM(UTC)
Rank: Select Member

PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Gold: 2012PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Gold: 2013FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2014FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2013

Joined: 8/8/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 3,940
Applause Received: 2,014
I am always willing for the Packers to improve whether it be changing player personnel or position coaches or coordinators.
Not sure all the OLB failures are Greene's fault. Not sure a different position coach would have made a difference.

CM3 is exactly what they knew he would be. A pass rusher from the LB position who occasionally is in the right place to tackle the RB as he comes his way. hat he is not is a guy who can do everything and excel at it.

I don't see how he can be a pass rusher and still stay outside to watch contain. They seem to be two different responsibilities. If he vacates his position to pressure the QB some one else (A safety?) has to rotate out and cover contain.
thanks Post received 1 applause.
yooperfan on 1/15/2013(UTC)
Offline Zero2Cool  
#8 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2013 8:09:20 AM(UTC)
Rank: Premier Member

Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Gold: 2015Yahoo! Fantasy Football - Gold: 2009FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2011FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2016ESPN NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2013

United States
Joined: 10/13/2006(UTC)
Location: Green Bay, WI
Applause Given: 2,488
Applause Received: 4,009
I'd rather see Kevin Greene as the DC than fired.
Offline play2win  
#9 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2013 8:45:24 AM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

United States
Joined: 3/29/2012(UTC)
Location: Milwaukee
Applause Given: 1,076
Applause Received: 724
CaliforniaCheez said: Go to Quoted Post
Matthews is a one trick pony.
Has he improved since he was a rookie?
Has he learned yet how to properly stretch his hamstrings before playing or are they always getting injured?
Can he cover anyone in space better?
Does he play under control or over run plays?


Do Walden and Zombo really lack the talent or could they improve with better coaching?

Why would a rookie like Moses show so much discipline? Is it because he has the least amount of Kevin Greene coaching?


Seems more a personnel issue overall. Last year we were in need of pass rush opposite Matthews. This year we were in need of pass rush opposite Matthews. How many years does this go unaddressed? Well, I can count two in a row now. Unaddressed.

I know we drafted Perry. We needed more. Way more. And when players go down with injury, it is the GM's responsibility to find another player at the position. Didn't happen, two years in the running.

Can anyone here believe we are STILL talking about Walden and Zombo???!!!!

Fucking A!!!!!!
thanks Post received 1 applause.
yooperfan on 1/15/2013(UTC)
Offline gbguy20  
#10 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:20:36 AM(UTC)
Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 8/28/2009(UTC)
Applause Given: 458
Applause Received: 495
play2win said: Go to Quoted Post
Seems more a personnel issue overall. Last year we were in need of pass rush opposite Matthews. This year we were in need of pass rush opposite Matthews. How many years does this go unaddressed? Well, I can count two in a row now. Unaddressed.

I know we drafted Perry. We needed more. Way more. And when players go down with injury, it is the GM's responsibility to find another player at the position. Didn't happen, two years in the running.

Can anyone here believe we are STILL talking about Walden and Zombo???!!!!

Fucking A!!!!!!


So we needed more after we drafted Perry? who should we have skipped in the draft then? Hayward? Worthy?

You guys can bitch and bitch all you want saying that certain needs aren't addressed. Almost our entire draft went defense, and man did our draft produce this year. Sure, when Perry went down as you said Ted Thompson could have went out and replaced him, but you seem to forget, there isn't all that many talented free agent gems out there in the middle of the season. I understand everyone is frustrated, but at least be realistic with your demands.
Rss Feed 
Users browsing this topic
Guest
5 Pages123>»
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error


Fan Shout
uffda udfa (4h) : Hilarious reading below. I like Carter. Only guy who gets it.
uffda udfa (4h) : http://boards.dallascowboys.com/topic/71647-so-we-are-supposed-to-believe/#entry3978081
uffda udfa (5h) : Great news.
Zero2Cool (9h) : Jordy has "legitimate hope" to play, per @RobDemovsky.
Zero2Cool (9h) : Packers had one call on defense if called, no issue, wans't called. I didn't watch OL so dunno. I watched WR's
Zero2Cool (9h) : Dallas OL had some holds weren't called and 2 defensive holds, not called.
uffda udfa (9h) : I think the Pi vs just a holding call is a legit complaint. Terrible call.
GoPack1984 (9h) : Dallas can't complain about the officials. They got away with so many defensive holding calls.
uffda udfa (10h) : Dallas radio postgame: Dallas wins 7 out of 10 times.
uffda udfa (10h) : Brice led Pack w/ 6 tackles including the hardest of the game.
uffda udfa (10h) : Post game show said same thing. Everyone wondering how it didn't stay left.
Zero2Cool (10h) : Tornado warning forces players, fans to stay put at AT&T Stadium
Zero2Cool (10h) : Skip:More I see winning FG, more I see a very weird thing: It hooked hard left, then straightened out. Obviously no wind. Like meant to be
Zero2Cool (10h) : @RealSkipBayless: More I see winning FG, more I see a very weird thing: It hooked hard left, then straightened out. Obviously no wind. Like
uffda udfa (10h) : I don't believe Dallas is better than us. When Aaron is on we're the best.
beast (10h) : The huddle penalty was an odd one. Without Burnett and Nelson.
uffda udfa (10h) : Cowboys radio team initially called Crosby GW NO GOOD. Lol.
DarkaneRules (11h) : we beat an arguably better team at their place without morgan burnett. still can't believe it
uffda udfa (11h) : Re emphasized we aren't the better team. Sour grapes are sweet to me.
uffda udfa (11h) : Complaining of PI call and huddle penalty.
uffda udfa (11h) : Dallas play by play guy said we aren't best team.
uffda udfa (11h) : NBC is off the air down here. This is an OTA broadcast signal.
uffda udfa (11h) : Tornado warnings in Dallas area. Sign of aPACKalypse to Cowboys fans.
uffda udfa (11h) : I agree with a Homer. That's true. It was actually 35 per Erin Andrews post game int.
Zero2Cool (11h) : @espnhomer 4th and 26 is dead replaced by 36 on 3rd and 20.
uffda udfa (11h) : Garrett said he'd never seen or heard of the 15 yard penalty huddle rule.
uffda udfa (11h) : *toe
uffda udfa (11h) : Called Cook's catch best The tie drag in NFL history.
uffda udfa (11h) : Cowboys a much better team but Packers have best player. 105.3 The Fan.
uffda udfa (11h) : Dallas sports radio is some great comedy. Hysterical.
uffda udfa (11h) : Funnest Packers game since SB win ironically in same stadium.
DarkaneRules (11h) : you're amongst friends/family then
uffda udfa (12h) : I hate Dallas and love Green bay.
coltonja (12h) : In the most non-weird way possible I wish we could get a feed of the locker room- only for these first few minutes of celebration after the
yinzer (12h) : Pittsburgh!!
Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2016 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 11 @ 12:00 PM
at Jaguars
Sunday, Sep 18 @ 7:30 PM
at Vikings
Sunday, Sep 25 @ 12:00 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Oct 2 @ 12:00 AM
BYE
Sunday, Oct 9 @ 7:30 PM
GIANTS
Sunday, Oct 16 @ 3:25 PM
COWBOYS
Thursday, Oct 20 @ 7:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Oct 30 @ 3:25 PM
at Falcons
Sunday, Nov 6 @ 3:25 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Nov 13 @ 12:00 PM
at Titans
Sunday, Nov 20 @ 7:30 PM
at Redskins
Monday, Nov 28 @ 7:30 PM
at Eagles
Sunday, Dec 4 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Dec 11 @ 3:25 PM
SEAHAWKS
Sunday, Dec 18 @ 12:00 PM
at Bears
Saturday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Jan 1 @ 7:30 PM
at Lions

Think About It
Think About It

Recent Topics
18m / Green Bay Packers Talk / shield4life

30m / Green Bay Packers Talk / DarkaneRules

35m / Green Bay Packers Talk / DarkaneRules

1h / Around The NFL / Smokey

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / DarkaneRules

3h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

8h / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

8h / Fantasy Sports Talk / Smokey

9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa


Packers Headlines