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Offline Rockmolder  
#1 Posted : Sunday, January 20, 2013 4:18:26 PM(UTC)
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I've been thinking about this throughout the season. Everyone in the media and every Packer fan will tell you that we have the best group of receivers in the game.

Or at least, one of the top 3 groups.

But why?

Jennings is a good receiver, don't get me wrong, but he's not in that elite tier. He's no Megatron, no White, no A. Johnson, no Marshall... That drops you down in the rankings in my book.

Then you have Nelson. He came on very strong halfway last season, but he didn't look that great this year. He missed some games, maybe that hampered him, but he looked pretty sluggish at times. Not bad, by any stretch, but nothing more than a nr. 2, mostly.

James Jones was a pleasant surprise. Especially not dropping a whole lot of balls was a big plus. Lost in the euphoria over his 14 TD season was that he didn't put up a whole lot of yards for being the vocal point of the offense, together with Cobb, in a lot of games. On tape, it look equally average, really showing that 4.55 40 speed.

Cobb played amazingly in his all-purpose role. Not a guy you'd like on the perimeter, though. That's not a knock on him and his skill-set, as he's the most promising receiver on our roster, if you ask me.

Driver shouldn't have been on any NFL roster this year. Boykin and Ross are unknowns.

For a WR group, that's good, but not great.

Then we have our TEs. Our only pure receiver is Finley, who's wildly inconsistent, has a problem with drops and looks like he has some huge mental lapses from time to time. One of those guys who was tons of potential, which never truly comes to fruition.

The rest of the TE group isn't that noteworthy.

Now, I'm not saying that we don't have a good group of receivers. Not at all. Going four deep like that is pretty impressive for a WR core. Thing is, we're not even close to the Falcons, the Saints are ahead of us, the Bengals are pretty strong, the Broncos look pretty good, the 49ers are getting awfully close...

Like I said, we're not that bad, but we're not the cream of the crop, like we used to be, either. I feel like Rodgers make a lot of these guys a lot better than they are, as well.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ted went after another WR early in the draft, at all. Asuming Greg leaves, I feel like it's almost a given. And that's without even taking Finley's huge cap hit, which doesn't match his production at all.
Offline doddpower  
#2 Posted : Sunday, January 20, 2013 4:52:48 PM(UTC)
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I would unquestionably take the Packers receiving corps from 2011 and 2012 over the Saints, Broncos, and definitely Bengals. Falcons have two great WRs and a tight end that is now likely finished. I'm not a huge fan of Douglas, so beyond they're top two, it's not that impressive anymore. How impressive is that group is Julio Jones or Roddy White is out of the game? If the Packers are missing one guy, they are still dangerous. The Falcons just don't have the same depth, imo. As for the Saints and the Broncos, both of their respective QBs make their WRs look much better, as well, just like Rodgers does. That's what great QBs do.

Obviously losing Jennings takes the Packers receivers down a big notch, even more so without Finley. But with all of those guys the Packers have had for the past two seasons, it's hard to beat. As always though, I'd trade 5 good receiving threats for a better offensive line and/or defense, not that they are mutually exclusive, though.
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#3 Posted : Sunday, January 20, 2013 6:15:11 PM(UTC)
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None of them are physical specimen that'll be All-Pros every year, but our style of the WCO makes them invaluable to our team. We have the kind of depth where losing two people doesn't matter, because everybody can play everything.

Sharpe and Freeman, and Walker and Driver, IMO were the best 1-2 punches we've ever had... but for the offense that we run, we definitely have the best.
Offline PackerTraxx  
#4 Posted : Sunday, January 20, 2013 6:24:28 PM(UTC)
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As mentioned Jennings is not elite, but her is our best reciever and it would be great to keep him. Personally, I think Greg may be in for a somewhat rude surprise as to his worth. In my mind we have one #1 reciever and a really outstanding corps or #2 receivers. An elite to go with them would be truly awesome. I'm not a fan of either but you have to give credit to Atlanta and DC to pull the trigger to get outstanding players in Jones and RGIII, they make the players around them better.
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#5 Posted : Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:08:13 PM(UTC)
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Compared to what? (Rock, as OP)

How many legitimate targets does Rodgers have to hit? Statistically, the Pack goes off the scale in that arena.

We throw the ball around a lot, so no individual is going to stand out, imo

I very much like our WR situation, it isn't even expensive, and we have many fish to fry this off-season, with contracts and cap room, etc.

Give Aaron Rodgers a great line, that's all I ask, then we shall see who is great and who is not. We are absolutely squandering his talent, imo
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#6 Posted : Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:15:00 PM(UTC)
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Jennings has 53 touchdowns 6,537 yards and 425 receptions to his name. The guy should be mentioned imo when he's healthy one of the top recievers in the NFL. He runs beautiful routes and can make people miss. That frankly, not many receivers can do well In the NFL. I know I'm speaking for him because I'm a Packers fan. But when he's on the field he makes this team a hell of a lot better. This guy is a threat. A real Threat. If we let him go for something other than money. It's a huge mistake.
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#7 Posted : Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:46:29 PM(UTC)
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Gaycandybacon said: Go to Quoted Post
Jennings has 53 touchdowns 6,537 yards and 425 receptions to his name. The guy should be mentioned imo when he's healthy one of the top recievers in the NFL. He runs beautiful routes and can make people miss. That frankly, not many receivers can do well In the NFL. I know I'm speaking for him because I'm a Packers fan. But when he's on the field he makes this team a hell of a lot better. This guy is a threat. A real Threat. If we let him go for something other than money. It's a huge mistake.


It's going to be money.

We have to pay Aaron Rodgers. That contract is going to KILL us, without some seriously innovative thinking from manglement and coaching.

We don't do that, the innovative thinking thing. We are slow-assed-sodbusters that take situations as they come to us. I fear that contract will send us into the cellar. I will blame manglement and coaching.

Any of you democratic-leaning-commie-type-everyone gets a free-ride-I'm ok you're ok Obama voters looked into the going rate of a top-of-the-NFL QB in spite of a complete shit-box line and no running back QB market might look like? The numbers are not good for the rest of the team, money-wise.

It is a failed policy, btw. This game is built upon making your QB comfy, and the other QB uncomfy. I don't care how much money they give Aaron, he cannot overcome that truth. It's only going down-hill until these great minds we love so much learn to prioritize, which they will not, as the great minds are not all that in the first friggin' place. Not that I'm bitter. Laugh

WR's? Who leaves? Who goes? Who stays? Talk about an over-rated issue, especially in Green Bay, with our real issues...

puleeze.

Who gets heat on their QB, who keeps the heat off mine. Gimme a good subject, Detlev.

imo.
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I gave my reason why the Packers will franchise Greg Jennings. It's sound and reasonable. No one has proven the theory impossible or unlikely. Bring it!

Jordy Nelson, Greg Jennings, James Jones and Randall Cobb are very talented. Of the group, only Jennings would be more successful in another offense.

Nelson, Jones and Cobb are products of the offense.

Jennings #1.
Nelson #2.
Jones #3.
Cobb #3.

Packers have two 3's, one 2 and one 1.
Offline Pack93z  
#9 Posted : Monday, January 21, 2013 7:35:16 AM(UTC)
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I think this type of thread highlights the point of how fast things change in the NFL of today. Two years ago.. this isn't a conversation that couldn't be made in the Packers favor. To now.. where it is hard to make the argument the Packers are in the top 5.
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#10 Posted : Monday, January 21, 2013 8:02:47 AM(UTC)
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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
I gave my reason why the Packers will franchise Greg Jennings. It's sound and reasonable. No one has proven the theory impossible or unlikely. Bring it!

Jordy Nelson, Greg Jennings, James Jones and Randall Cobb are very talented. Of the group, only Jennings would be more successful in another offense.

Nelson, Jones and Cobb are products of the offense.

Jennings #1.
Nelson #2.
Jones #3.
Cobb #3.

Packers have two 3's, one 2 and one 1.


The thing about Jones is that the way he played this year, he's at least going to be a #2, a #1 on some teams. He really stepped it up and I hope he continues that performance. His average over the last 3 years though, definitely a #3 or #2. Cobb's hard to get a handle on since this was his first year where he was integrated into the offense almost full-time, but I agree that he'd be a #3 (a high-end one).
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