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Offline play2win  
#11 Posted : Wednesday, February 6, 2013 1:56:50 PM(UTC)
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Both of which would likely be as effective, if not more effective in a 4-3. Especially BJ Raji, who played such a position in college.



dodd, I could see that working really well. I kind of wish they would switch back to 4-3, bc the personnel, all across the board seems a better fit. Mike Neal could make a great DE in a 4-3. Perry could be the consummate speed rusher opposite. Raji and Pick in the middle. I could easily see that.

Matthews could very well have much the same positive effect in coverage in this defense as Urlacher did with CHI. I'd put Clay at WSLB.

This way they could just add depth with starter potential in the draft on the DL, along with some serious LB talent.
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, February 6, 2013 11:18:28 PM(UTC)
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The Packers run mostly sub packages, so they draft players to fit those specific packages. Mike Neal and Jerel Worthy play inside a majority of the time in a 2-4-5. They line up between the guard and center, so they're not playing a radically different position as they did in college.

Green Bay’s base defense is C.J. Wilson, Ryan Pickett, and B.J. Raji. All three have ideal 3-4 body types. Pickett and Raji are natural nose guards and Wilson is a five technique. Frankly, having two natural nose guards on the field is great. It’s precisely what most teams covet, because it creates a matchup nightmare for many teams. That’s why Pickett remains so valuable, even though he doesn’t always play his natural position.

The Packers definitely have to add depth. They need to limit Raji's and Pickett’s snap count, for obvious reasons. I think they really miss Howard Green. He was that natural big-bodied guy that could spell Pickett and Raji. Without him, one or the other is likely to be on the field most of the time. In the case of Raji, his versatility allows him to slide a gap over and stay in sub packages.

What the Packers lack right now is the third big-bodied player (Howard Green) and another natural five-technique to backup C.J. Wilson. Wilson missed a couple of games this season, and I thought the defense missed him. They didn’t have anyone else that could fill the role, so that’s why you had some lighter players playing out of position, although I believe they think Worthy can manage the position. His injury puts a wrinkle in those plans.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, February 7, 2013 8:28:40 AM(UTC)
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Absolutely agree, Porky. If I'm the opposing QB, anytime I see Raji and Pickett out of the game, I'm calling a run play. No big bodies backing them up.
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The Packers run mostly sub packages, so they draft players to fit those specific packages. Mike Neal and Jerel Worthy play inside a majority of the time in a 2-4-5. They line up between the guard and center, so they're not playing a radically different position as they did in college.

Green Bay’s base defense is C.J. Wilson, Ryan Pickett, and B.J. Raji. All three have ideal 3-4 body types. Pickett and Raji are natural nose guards and Wilson is a five technique. Frankly, having two natural nose guards on the field is great. It’s precisely what most teams covet, because it creates a matchup nightmare for many teams. That’s why Pickett remains so valuable, even though he doesn’t always play his natural position.

The Packers definitely have to add depth. They need to limit Raji's and Pickett’s snap count, for obvious reasons. I think they really miss Howard Green. He was that natural big-bodied guy that could spell Pickett and Raji. Without him, one or the other is likely to be on the field most of the time. In the case of Raji, his versatility allows him to slide a gap over and stay in sub packages.

What the Packers lack right now is the third big-bodied player (Howard Green) and another natural five-technique to backup C.J. Wilson. Wilson missed a couple of games this season, and I thought the defense missed him. They didn’t have anyone else that could fill the role, so that’s why you had some lighter players playing out of position, although I believe they think Worthy can manage the position. His injury puts a wrinkle in those plans.


I'd like to see Pickett and Raji back each other up and keep each other fresh throughout the game. We have an offense that actually tries to AVOID time of possession, in an attempt to squeeze in more scoring plays. This, as we have seen, wears down the defense.

As for Wilson, I'd like to see him add 30 lbs to become a prototypical 3-4 end.
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CJ Wilson is incredibly average, imo. I think he has OK size for a 3-4 DE, but he should not be a starter. He's OK against the run, but that's about it. I don't think he's very strong, and not the best block consumer. Usually gets zero push on passing plays. Yet another average player among many on the Packers defense. Wilson is great depth, but the Packers desperately need an upgrade at this position.
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I would like for us to add two more in the mould of Raji and Pickett, along with a top DE. I think that would do wonders for this defense, and this team's success. 3 players. Gigantic. Quick. Effective. We need maulers.
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I would sooner see two DEs about 6'5" and 300 plus. I think Pickett can play a couple of more years and both he and Raji would be much more effective with some good DEs. Then a young NT to develop to replace Pickett when it's time. Obviously that's more easily said than done.
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