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Offline PackerTraxx  
#21 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 11:41:12 AM(UTC)
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Therefore both GMs were/are goods ones to have in their time. Wolf was in an era where he could "wheel and deal" and Ted Thompson builds a team for the long term without mortgaging the future.
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#22 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 11:45:15 AM(UTC)
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wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
They certainly were two completely different areas. The game has changed so much both on and off the field. But then that is part of the fun of comparisons. How would Hutson do in the game today? It is fun to speculate.


Yepper.. it is fun to speculate. Just throwing in my angle into the thought process. Just I think Wolf played a scared market well.. just as I think Ted used record jumps in the salary cap to help bridge the gap in turning over the roster. He had help via the cap to keep a team competitive in cleaning up the cap issues that Sherman left in his wake.
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#23 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 12:09:41 PM(UTC)
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Even if we had signed a couple big name FA's in the last few years there is no knowing if that would have made the difference.

Our problem has been we had had too many injuries that have added up to weakness' that could be exploited at playoff time.

Who knows if the FA's signed wouldn't have gotten hurt along with what seems like everybody else? Benson was giving the running game a spark and he went down.

Aside from that who else would not be coming back because of cap issues? No way we can keep important core players like so many teams that dip into the high end FA market.

What would this do to the overall depth of the team? Even with all the injuries we have had over the last few years teams like the Bears can't beat us. Why? We're deeper then they are.

San Francisco lost one DL during the year and they started to struggle until he came back. GB loses Bishop, Perry, Sherrod and Bulaga for the year and I happen to believe we could have given them a better game had these guys played.

The bottom line is Ted will put the players on the field and we will once again have one of the strongest rosters top to bottom in the league. We just can't afford for so many players drafted that high to be on crutches for most the year again.

Just give Arod what we have mostly healthy, infuse some talented draft picks, and we can play with anybody. That many 2nd and 3rd tier players filling in at playoff time just makes it too difficult to win.
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#24 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 12:30:52 PM(UTC)
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Even if we had signed a couple big name FA's in the last few years there is no knowing if that would have made the difference.

Our problem has been we had had too many injuries that have added up to weakness' that could be exploited at playoff time.

Who knows if the FA's signed wouldn't have gotten hurt along with what seems like everybody else? Benson was giving the running game a spark and he went down.

Aside from that who else would not be coming back because of cap issues? No way we can keep important core players like so many teams that dip into the high end FA market.

What would this do to the overall depth of the team? Even with all the injuries we have had over the last few years teams like the Bears can't beat us. Why? We're deeper then they are.

San Francisco lost one DL during the year and they started to struggle until he came back. GB loses Bishop, Perry, Sherrod and Bulaga for the year and I happen to believe we could have given them a better game had these guys played.

The bottom line is Ted will put the players on the field and we will once again have one of the strongest rosters top to bottom in the league. We just can't afford for so many players drafted that high to be on crutches for most the year again.

Just give Arod what we have mostly healthy, infuse some talented draft picks, and we can play with anybody. That many 2nd and 3rd tier players filling in at playoff time just makes it too difficult to win.


newsflash warhawk, not a single thing we do or says will have any bearing on the team. It is all just idle talk and speculation.

As long as you are speculating the FA GB would have signed is injured I can say all 6 of them went on to have Pro Bowl seasons and HoF careers. It still means nothing. We a re just talking.

"What if" added a quality player who helped them, injuries aside, win a few extra playoff games. No one would feel like Ted overpaid for him.

As for the street FAs- There would still be a few of them on the team. Ted isn't going to ignore the Tramons and Shields of the NFL if he signs a big butt to play on the DL. He prob wouldn't ignore them if he signed Prime Time Deion when he was still in his prime. Still need the next gen learning and waiting for their chance to step up.

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#25 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 12:53:59 PM(UTC)
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Therefore both GMs were/are goods ones to have in their time. Wolf was in an era where he could "wheel and deal" and Ted Thompson builds a team for the long term without mortgaging the future.


It is not mortgaging the future to pick up a high level FA every once in a while. No one is saying to give someone a $100 million 20 year deal like they do in baseball. But picking up an All Pro can make a big difference on the team.

A stud DE can shut down the run and pressure the QB. He makes the secondary better. Prob even makes Hawk look better too. He takes pressure off CM3 and he becomes more effective. One can argue that part of the reason Matthews has pulled hammies all the time is that he is trying too much. Because he is doubled so often he is trying too hard to get to the qb. If he has consistent help he may not feel the need to push himself so much and he could actually play more effectively. No doubt he will also not have to take as long to get the the qb by going further outside or fighting off as many blockers and he will get there sooner.

As stud opposite Clay would have much the same impact.

A big play RB would ease the pressure on AR. (And I have not been a big advocate of going out and getting the rb.) None the less, if he was on the team it would certainly have its benefits.

As Wade mentioned no one is saying pick up 3 a year. No one is saying pay double the going rate for them either.
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#26 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 4:00:33 PM(UTC)
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Peppers was a great FA signing. But let's look at it in context. Every year, Lovey was in a position where he had to do something radical to try and save his job. Signing these free agents was a desperation move. In the case of Peppers, it didn't work out to bad. As for Jay Cutler, I think the question of who is the best QB in the division has been answered. LOL
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