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Offline bigfog  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, September 9, 2008 5:15:06 PM(UTC)
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I'm still giddy over last night's win, but I thought I'd start some discussion on the upcoming Sunday match up.

Detroit lost to the Falcons on Sunday, who were led by rookie Matt Ryan. Ryan played well, completing 9 of 13 passes for 161 yards and 1 TD. Obviously, being a rookie, Ryan's play book was reeled in a bit, but in his first start he wasn't bad.

Running backs Michael Turner and Jerious Norwood did most of the heavy lifting for the Atlanta offense. Turner ran for 220 and 2 TDs, and Norwood provided 93 yards and a TD. Essentially, the Lions D was run over, around and through, leaving nothing but a greasy spot on the floor of the Georgia Dome.

The offense of the Lions was mostly successful through the air. Kitna threw 22 passes for for 262 yards and 2 TDs. He also had an interception and was sacked by John Abraham 3 times.

Detroit's rushing offense still pines for Barry Sanders, as their top runner, Kevin Smith, managed 48 yards on 16 carries. He did provide one TD however. Rudi Johnson, in his Lion debut, carried 3 times for 14 yards.

Stacking the Lions against the Packers, it will be interesting to see how Ryan Grant and co fair against the Lions run defense. If Turner and Norwood can do what they did, I'll be interested in seeing what Mike McCarthy has cooked up.

Aaron Rodgers, of course, will be one to watch as well. The last time Green Bay fans were able to watch a quarterback mature, was a long long time ago. I hope that Rodgers displays more of the same play that he had on Monday night and last year's game against the Cowboys.

I really hope that Rodgers doesn't have the same tendency to go nuts in a dome like Favre did. Say what you will about Favre outdoors, when he stepped into a dome, he just seemed out of his element. Last season in Dallas, Rodgers played fine in a stadium that's half-dome and half-not. I hope he displays the same tenacity in Detroit.
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, September 9, 2008 5:28:36 PM(UTC)
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I think this is a good game to really use Grant and Jackson in. I have high expectations for both of them. I wouldn't mine seeing Grant see about 20 to 25 carries and Jackson getting at least 10 on his own. I think Rodgers is going to have a small workload to deal with but then again a QB always has to be on their toes because of Detroit mans up, we'll have to throw.

I would assume they'll be putting an emphasis on stopping the run this week too.

Defensively I thought GB handled the best RB in the NFC pretty good so Kevin Smith doesn't really put much fear into me in my opinion.

Really it's going to come down to Harris and Woodson vs. Williams and Johnson defensively. It'll be interesting how the Lions try and utilize their receivers on them.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, September 9, 2008 5:31:22 PM(UTC)
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MM will gameplan accordingly. He's really good at finding weaknesses and exploiting them.

I think their weaknesses are obvious. Expect Aaron to throw under 20 passes. Expect Grant and Jackson to have a lot of fun. Expect Kampy to get his 2nd sack.
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Offline brnt247  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, September 9, 2008 5:31:37 PM(UTC)
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I think the Pack will play it like they normally do. Short and efficient passes with a couple of deep balls, and a few stretch plays with Grant hitting a home run or two.
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Offline johnny_blood  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, September 9, 2008 5:43:41 PM(UTC)
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Unless the Lions shock us and jump out to a big lead, Rodgers isn't going to throw many passes. They are going to hammer the run game here.

Rodgers isn't going to really fling it until the Dallas game.

The Lions look terrible and are probably going to get dominated.
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Offline bigfog  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, September 9, 2008 5:45:27 PM(UTC)
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Anyone think that there will be a Lumpkin sighting in this game?
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Offline Packnic  
#7 Posted : Tuesday, September 9, 2008 5:53:02 PM(UTC)
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I think we will throw the ball maybe 35 times Sunday against the Lions.

They will be working all week on shoring up the run game so that Ryan Grant wont kill them.

Meanwhile M M staying 2 steps ahead of his competition as usual will have a passing attack from every angle. out of the backfield, over the top, on slants and lots of short stuff.

expect the unexpected and expect to see the BIG 5! in action early and often.
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Offline Rios39  
#8 Posted : Tuesday, September 9, 2008 6:36:19 PM(UTC)
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I'd spread it out. Jones back would be huge. He's a pretty big component that we missed in short yardage situations maybe a gain of 6-7 on a slant or curl or out route. IMO we missed that aspect as Jennings is more of a HR hitter. Driver is more similar to Jones.
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Offline gbpfan  
#9 Posted : Tuesday, September 9, 2008 6:57:21 PM(UTC)
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if the d-line steps up i see kitna on the ground alot kamp will get a sack or 2 kgb will snag him our o-line i agree think they will run the ball alot :icon_smile:
Offline warhawk  
#10 Posted : Tuesday, September 9, 2008 7:00:45 PM(UTC)
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Think they miss Shawn much there in the middle of the DL?

These are the kind of games Mike McCarthy can use all the negative plays against the Vikes to keep them focused. We need focus because we don't always play that great in Detroit and it's a look-ahead game which doesn't help.

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#11 Posted : Tuesday, September 9, 2008 7:02:23 PM(UTC)
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I kind of feel bad for the Lions. I think were gonna drown them like misfit kitties.
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Offline IronMan  
#12 Posted : Tuesday, September 9, 2008 7:08:41 PM(UTC)
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Offline zombieslayer  
#13 Posted : Tuesday, September 9, 2008 7:15:27 PM(UTC)
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Anyone think that there will be a Lumpkin sighting in this game?


I do.

I think we should go for 3 100 yard rushers in the same game. Let Grant rush for 100 yards, then take him out and put in Jackson and keep him in until he gets 100, then put in Lumpkin.

Would we be the first team in history to do that? That's what I'd do if I were Mike McCarthy . That would be cool.
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Offline bozz_2006  
#14 Posted : Tuesday, September 9, 2008 8:14:56 PM(UTC)
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I was actually really impressed with our D-line against the Vikings. yeah, AP made them look kind of foolish at times, but they held him in check. only one big run. and the pass rush looked great. lots and lots of pressure against an excellent O line.
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Offline buckeyepackfan  
#15 Posted : Tuesday, September 9, 2008 8:51:30 PM(UTC)
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One thing T. Jackson was able to do was scramble out of trouble and pick up some first downs, but he sure didn't throw very well, Kitna on the other hand can throw the football but is not very mobile, so IMHO The Packer defense will be able to pressure Kitna and get sacks or cause turnovers.

Someone mentioned it earlier, hope to see THE BIG 5 FORMATION on Sunday!!!!
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Offline Cheesey  
#16 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:21:05 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
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Anyone think that there will be a Lumpkin sighting in this game?


I do.

I think we should go for 3 100 yard rushers in the same game. Let Grant rush for 100 yards, then take him out and put in Jackson and keep him in until he gets 100, then put in Lumpkin.

Would we be the first team in history to do that? That's what I'd do if I were Mike McCarthy . That would be cool.

I hope Lumpy is active for the game Sunday. With Grant being sore, I'd kind of like to see them take it easy with him. If we get a good lead, let Lumpy take over.
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Offline Packers_Finland  
#17 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:14:33 AM(UTC)
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I think we will kill them. Packers go to jail for 1st degree murder. Mike McCarthy plans it all week, and then our 45-man group of hitmans will finish the job. Ford Field will be left in a bloody mess.
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Offline Greg C.  
#18 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2008 8:42:21 AM(UTC)
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Rodgers will be fine in the dome. Favre's struggles in domes were a bit overblown, I always thought. Many of those dome losses were against the Vikings when the Vikings played everybody tough at home. The Lions used to be tough to beat at home as well. And of course Favre won a Super Bowl in a dome.

I was unimpressed with the Lions' off-season. They just don't seem to know what they are doing. Watch out for Calvin Johnson, though. That guy is a beast. Roy Williams is very good, too. If the Packers rush the passer as well as they did on Monday night, they will be fine. But if they give Kitna time, the Lions could put a lot of points on the board.
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Offline MassPackersFan  
#19 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:45:51 AM(UTC)
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Key matchup in this game will be our pass D vs. their receivers. I'm not really concerned about anything else.
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Offline kiddikkarus  
#20 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:59:24 AM(UTC)
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I'm hoping to see Lumpkin in there too.
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Offline Balls2TheWalls  
#21 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:28:05 PM(UTC)
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I see Grant having a monster game. He is a broken play running back, and gets his yards in bunches. I think that he could match Michael Turner's output. Hopefully our defensive blitzing scheme will continue to be effective at creating pressure.
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Offline Tiger  
#22 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:31:50 PM(UTC)
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Id really like to see Lumpkin get some snaps in this game and Jordy to get some balls thrown his way. If Matty Flynn got some snaps too thatd rock, i doubt A-Rod will be as precious as Brett was about staying in for the 4th quarter when the Pack is up by 20 or so..
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Offline Rios39  
#23 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:34:24 PM(UTC)
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I see this as a must win game. If we want playoffs/division this is a team we have to beat, especially with tough teams coming ahead. Offensively we can probably be pretty balance because they can't stop the run nor the pass. They'll give receivers a lot more room after the catch on slants and curls then the DB's of the Vikings. Thye will NOT apply as much pressure on Rodgers, and they really can't stop the run. This should be a blow out as long as our D can force some 3 and outs and keep them from having long drives.
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Offline Greg C.  
#24 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:25:14 PM(UTC)
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I'm jumping on the Lumpkin bandwagon ("jumping on the Lumpkin" somehow sounds obscene). I think the coaches will want to limit Grant and his sore hammy on that artificial turf in the dome. And what concerns me about Jackson is that he doesn't seem to have much power. Ahman Green was a small guy like him, but Ahman was very powerful. I think Lumpkin may be able to fill that void for the Packer offense--maybe as early as this game.
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Offline gbpfan  
#25 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:15:16 PM(UTC)
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i only see a problem with woodson and his toe but other than that with bigby he is a ball hawk our o-line will be good seems wells is still out they have to hold off on penalties but the run game should be very good put lumpkin in he is a beast :icon_smile:
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