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Offline Bigbyfan  
#16 Posted : Saturday, September 13, 2008 4:00:52 PM(UTC)

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I don't like those quotes from Greg Jennings. That got me a little worried. You never want a guy saying that he is auditoning for 32 teams, not just the Packers.
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#17 Posted : Saturday, September 13, 2008 4:17:03 PM(UTC)

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Give Greg the biggest deal possible. Then clone him into 25 productive units.
Offline Greg C.  
#18 Posted : Saturday, September 13, 2008 4:35:48 PM(UTC)

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Of the players mentioned in the article whose contracts will expire within the next two years, the only two that I would count as must-haves are Aaron Rodgers and Greg Jennings. We'll see about Clifton and Tauscher. I hope they remain healthy and productive, but at their age, Thompson may not want to break the bank for them. Pickett, Jolly, and Blackmon would be nice to keep if they stay healthy.

Players mentioned in the article who I regard as fairly easy to replace are Colledge, Moll, Spitz, Collins, and obviously Chillar. And KGB may be at the end of the line by then.

So if you look at it this way, the "numbers crunch" may not be too bad.
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#19 Posted : Saturday, September 13, 2008 4:36:57 PM(UTC)

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I don't like those quotes from Greg Jennings. That got me a little worried. You never want a guy saying that he is auditoning for 32 teams, not just the Packers.



well as much as i would love for Greg Jennings to say... I love the Packers and I will never leave as long as they will have me. it is after all, a business and i think the "other 31 teams" quote was something the staff was preaching in camp if i remember correctly. Its just a fact, everytime you step on the field you are either increasing your pay day or ruining it. So come 2009 when the Packers want to sign you but dont have the funds, you can get signed by another team. The NFL is a business at its core, and money will always come first.


this will be interesting because there is a lot of dudes fighting for a set amount of money. but thats the beauty of the draft young and resign your guys philosophy. This is where Ted Thompson and his staff make their money. With smart drafting and sensible contract negotiations, this team will be good for years to come.
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#20 Posted : Saturday, September 13, 2008 4:37:48 PM(UTC)

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Of the players mentioned in the article whose contracts will expire within the next two years, the only two that I would count as must-haves are Aaron Rodgers and Greg Jennings. We'll see about Clifton and Tauscher. I hope they remain healthy and productive, but at their age, Thompson may not want to break the bank for them. Pickett, Jolly, and Blackmon would be nice to keep if they stay healthy.

Players mentioned in the article who I regard as fairly easy to replace are Colledge, Moll, Spitz, Collins, and obviously Chillar. And KGB may be at the end of the line by then.

So if you look at it this way, the "numbers crunch" may not be too bad.


I don't think Spitz is in any way easy to replace. I believe in Harvey... Jason Spitz.
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#21 Posted : Saturday, September 13, 2008 4:45:03 PM(UTC)

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Of the players mentioned in the article whose contracts will expire within the next two years, the only two that I would count as must-haves are Aaron Rodgers and Greg Jennings. We'll see about Clifton and Tauscher. I hope they remain healthy and productive, but at their age, Thompson may not want to break the bank for them. Pickett, Jolly, and Blackmon would be nice to keep if they stay healthy.

Players mentioned in the article who I regard as fairly easy to replace are Colledge, Moll, Spitz, Collins, and obviously Chillar. And KGB may be at the end of the line by then.

So if you look at it this way, the "numbers crunch" may not be too bad.




I don't think Spitz is in any way easy to replace. I believe in Harvey... Jason Spitz.



yeah i would agree... Spitz is probably the 3rd best lineman we have right now. his versatility will ensure his roster spot for years.

but colledge, moll and Chillar.... haven't proven themselves to be irreplacable.
Offline Greg C.  
#22 Posted : Saturday, September 13, 2008 4:48:10 PM(UTC)

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I don't think Spitz is in any way easy to replace. I believe in Harvey... Jason Spitz.


Spitz is definitely a notch above Moll and Colledge. But ideally, in 2010 we will still have Wells at center with Sitton and Barbre ready to play the guard positions (Sitton was already starting before his injury). If that's the case, Spitz would not be a high priority, high-dollar signing. Also, Thompson will have two more drafts to work with in that time span, so there will be other players in the mix as well.
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#23 Posted : Saturday, September 13, 2008 4:54:36 PM(UTC)

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I don't think Spitz is in any way easy to replace. I believe in Harvey... Jason Spitz.



yeah i would agree... Spitz is probably the 3rd best lineman we have right now. his versatility will ensure his roster spot for years.

but colledge, moll and Chillar.... haven't proven themselves to be irreplacable.


I would say that Spitz is our fourth best O-lineman, after Clifton, Tauscher, and Wells. And I think the coaching staff would say the same. And by the time you get down to your fourth best offensive lineman, you are usually not talking about someone who is irreplaceable. Not unless you have a really great O-line, and even then, there is only so much room under the salary cap.

Also, Thompson has a history of letting veteran interior O-linemen go: Wahle, Rivera, and Flanagan. That's a part of the team where apparently he would rather not invest large amounts of money.
Offline Cheesey  
#24 Posted : Saturday, September 13, 2008 5:29:25 PM(UTC)

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Now....if Jennings keeps playing like he has so far, the Packer brass HAS to keep him here. He has developed into a big time #1 WR. I think he has replaced DD in that position. And i LOVE DD. Ted Thompson will get it done. If GJ is WILLING to sign this year to a long contract, it will get done.
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#25 Posted : Saturday, September 13, 2008 6:45:25 PM(UTC)

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Of the players mentioned in the article whose contracts will expire within the next two years, the only two that I would count as must-haves are Aaron Rodgers and Greg Jennings. We'll see about Clifton and Tauscher. I hope they remain healthy and productive, but at their age, Thompson may not want to break the bank for them. Pickett, Jolly, and Blackmon would be nice to keep if they stay healthy.

Players mentioned in the article who I regard as fairly easy to replace are Colledge, Moll, Spitz, Collins, and obviously Chillar. And KGB may be at the end of the line by then.

So if you look at it this way, the "numbers crunch" may not be too bad.


I agree for the most part although I don't think GB would have to break the bank for guys like Colledge and Spitz. I also think you need to add Aaron Kampman to the must haves as well.

As far as people worrying about Jennings. GB will slap the franchise tag on him before he's allowed to test the market assuming we have a cap then. I would be really disappointed if he got away.

If Rodgers plays well then he's a lock to resign here in my opinion.
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#26 Posted : Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:19:05 PM(UTC)

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Spitz's versatility alone is reason enough to re-sign him
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#27 Posted : Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:25:33 PM(UTC)

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i'm glad i dont have to make those desicions
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#28 Posted : Saturday, September 13, 2008 10:58:50 PM(UTC)

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Spitz's versatility alone is reason enough to re-sign him


Exactly, this year alone, Preseason/Regular Season he has played RG, LG, and Center
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#29 Posted : Sunday, September 14, 2008 5:18:46 AM(UTC)

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Spitz's versatility alone is reason enough to re-sign him


Exactly, this year alone, Preseason/Regular Season he has played RG, LG, and Center


Just to clarify: I like Spitz. He's the kind of player I would like the Packers to hang onto. I just don't see him as a player who would have a big effect on the salary structure. And porky's right, I forgot to mention Kampman. He is a must-have, of course--right up there with Rodgers and Jennings.
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#30 Posted : Sunday, September 14, 2008 8:29:07 AM(UTC)

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I understand where you're coming from, since this thread is about the structure of the cap in future seasons, but i also don't see Spitz affecting the cap. What i did say is that we need to re-sign him.
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