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Offline DakotaT  
#1 Posted : Saturday, March 9, 2013 8:51:11 PM(UTC)
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Something to talk about as we wait out the next few days before free agency.


https://www.profootballf...value-green-bay-packers/


Some of my favorite whipping boys are from the overvalued list, but then I don't know anything according to Buckeye.
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#2 Posted : Saturday, March 9, 2013 11:48:47 PM(UTC)
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I'd add Mike Daniels to the undervalued list. Maybe Newhouse too. Maybe even a guy like Don Barclay.

Overvalued: Mason Crosby.
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#3 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:35:05 AM(UTC)
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Overvalued: Raji
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Offline buckeyepackfan  
#4 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2013 8:20:45 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Something to talk about as we wait out the next few days before free agency.


https://www.profootballf...value-green-bay-packers/


Some of my favorite whipping boys are from the overvalued list, but then I don't know anything according to Buckeye.


OH yea you got me, glad you finally admitted "you have your favorite whooping boys".


Clay Mathews was valued at 10mil for 2013, he had a total of 43 tackles for the year.

A.J. Hawk was valued at 2.9 mil, he had a total of 130 tackles for the year.

Obviously whatever formula they are using, being on the field and making plays isn't considered.

Look at the list real close genius, other than Aaron Rodgers(who everyone agrees is underpaid) and James Jones(who finally had his breakout year), the players listed as undervalued are still working on their rookie contracts!!

DAMN YOU FINALLY FIGURED IT OUT, CALL TED, WHEN A PLAYER REACHES THE END OF HIS ROOKIE CONTRACT GET HIM THE HELL OUT OF GREEN BAY, BECAUSE ODDS ARE ACCORDING TO THIS ARTICLE THEY WILL NOT PLAY UP TO THEIR VALUE.


Will be real interesting to revisit this after next year, after Clay Mathews has signed his new contract.

Bring out all the articles you can find, my opionion of your football knowledge is never going to change, you have made it quite obvious there are players on the team that you don't want on the team, and you will use everything and anything to make your "mute" point.

I'll say it one more time, The only persons opinion that really counts is Ted Thompson's, he is the man that makes the decision on who and how much a player is worth.

You just keep right on being your miserable self, livng to bitch, i'm done with your ass.

Dammit where in the hell did that "ignore" feature go?

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#5 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2013 8:39:50 AM(UTC)
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Both Ryan Pickett and Brandon Saine can be also added to the overvalued category.
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Offline DakotaT  
#6 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2013 9:11:14 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan Go to Quoted Post
OH yea you got me, glad you finally admitted "you have your favorite whooping boys".


Clay Mathews was valued at 10mil for 2013, he had a total of 43 tackles for the year.

A.J. Hawk was valued at 2.9 mil, he had a total of 130 tackles for the year.

Obviously whatever formula they are using, being on the field and making plays isn't considered.

Look at the list real close genius, other than Aaron Rodgers(who everyone agrees is underpaid) and James Jones(who finally had his breakout year), the players listed as undervalued are still working on their rookie contracts!!

DAMN YOU FINALLY FIGURED IT OUT, CALL TED, WHEN A PLAYER REACHES THE END OF HIS ROOKIE CONTRACT GET HIM THE HELL OUT OF GREEN BAY, BECAUSE ODDS ARE ACCORDING TO THIS ARTICLE THEY WILL NOT PLAY UP TO THEIR VALUE.


Will be real interesting to revisit this after next year, after Clay Mathews has signed his new contract.

Bring out all the articles you can find, my opionion of your football knowledge is never going to change, you have made it quite obvious there are players on the team that you don't want on the team, and you will use everything and anything to make your "mute" point.

I'll say it one more time, The only persons opinion that really counts is Ted Thompson's, he is the man that makes the decision on who and how much a player is worth.

You just keep right on being your miserable self, livng to bitch, i'm done with your ass.

Dammit where in the hell did that "ignore" feature go?



Yeah, yeah, yeah and you were never coming back too. You couldn't ignore me if you tried. See, I'm your whipping boy. And that's fine with me, because I can actually take shit, thrive on it for that matter. But you on the other hand are a little light in the loafers in that aspect. Have a good day Buckeye - I'll send you my Hawk jersey when the Packers cut him after the 2014 season.

Your Hawk/Matthews comparison is a perfect example of why nobody takes your football knowlege seriously. Hawk has more tackles, but very few of them are ever for loss and alot of them are asssisted because the defense funnels the action to him. Hawk is just not an impact player, and is on the overvalued list because Uncle Ted overpaid. Only you seem to dispute this. Matthews on the other hand does make impact plays. But then again, Matthews didn't go to The Ohio State University, like Hawk did so I can understand your confusion.
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#7 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2013 9:45:56 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Yeah, yeah, yeah and you were never coming back too. You couldn't ignore me if you tried. See, I'm your whipping boy. And that's fine with me, because I can actually take shit, thrive on it for that matter. But you on the other hand are a little light in the loafers in that aspect. Have a good day Buckeye - I'll send you my Hawk jersey when the Packers cut him after the 2014 season.

Your Hawk/Matthews comparison is a perfect example of why nobody takes your football knowlege seriously. Hawk has more tackles, but very few of them are ever for loss and alot of them are asssisted because the defense funnels the action to him. Hawk is just not an impact player, and is on the overvalued list because Uncle Ted overpaid. Only you seem to dispute this. Matthews on the other hand does make impact plays. But then again, Matthews didn't go to The Ohio State University, like Hawk did so I can understand your confusion.


Hate to bring FACTS into one of your conversations

from MacBob
"AJ led the team in tackles for a loss and was 2nd on the team with sacks + tackles for a loss:

AJ was second in tackles (behind Burnett) and WAY ahead of the 3rd guy. "

Stat line from packers.com

A.J. Hawk 120 ttl 81solo 39asst. 3.0sacks 0

YOU ARE TALKING "SHIT" AGAIN!!!!

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Sorry NOW I'm done with you, just had to prove your ramblings wrong 1 last time.

Just to be clear, I only use Clay Mathews as an example because he is the LB who has missed the fewest games who has played alongside Hawk.
I have no problem with Mathews, and think he deserves whatever he and his agent can work out with Ted.
10mil,11mil 12mil???? Who knows what the number will be, whatever it is CM3 deserves every cent.

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Offline DakotaT  
#8 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:42:02 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan Go to Quoted Post
Hate to bring FACTS into one of your conversations

from MacBob
"AJ led the team in tackles for a loss and was 2nd on the team with sacks + tackles for a loss:

AJ was second in tackles (behind Burnett) and WAY ahead of the 3rd guy. "

Stat line from packers.com

A.J. Hawk 120 ttl 81solo 39asst. 3.0sacks 0

YOU ARE TALKING "SHIT" AGAIN!!!!

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Sorry NOW I'm done with you, just had to prove your ramblings wrong 1 last time.

Just to be clear, I only use Clay Mathews as an example because he is the LB who has missed the fewest games who has played alongside Hawk.
I have no problem with Mathews, and think he deserves whatever he and his agent can work out with Ted.
10mil,11mil 12mil???? Who knows what the number will be, whatever it is CM3 deserves every cent.


Noticed you didn't put how many tackles for loss there were, meaning the whole team doesn't do that much. Did notice that 1/3 of his tackles, he needed assitence. Not what we would call an All Pro now is it? Compare Hawk to the guys that are All Pro. I don't know why it is so difficult for you to recognize Saint AJ as being overpaide but it sure makes you look like a mook.

The Fact is Buckeye, the whole team sucks at tackles for loss and pressuring the QB - AJ is one of the whipping boys because of the lucrative contract he signed, not because anybody hates him.
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#9 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:58:46 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Noticed you didn't put how many tackles for loss there were, meaning the whole team doesn't do that much. Did notice that 1/3 of his tackles, he needed assitence. Not what we would call an All Pro now is it? Compare Hawk to the guys that are All Pro. I don't know why it is so difficult for you to recognize Saint AJ as being overpaide but it sure makes you look like a mook.

The Fact is Buckeye, the whole team sucks at tackles for loss and pressuring the QB - AJ is one of the whipping boys because of the lucrative contract he signed, not because anybody hates him.



Whateve you say, because no matter how many FACTS that are posted proving you wrong, you will spin one way or another to try and make it right.

Now the WHOLE team sucks!!!!! YOU ARE A JOKE!!!!!

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
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#10 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:08:38 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan Go to Quoted Post
Whateve you say, because no matter how many FACTS that are posted proving you wrong, you will spin one way or another to try and make it right.

Now the WHOLE team sucks!!!!! YOU ARE A JOKE!!!!!

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL


I was with ya on the A.J. Hawk stuff, but now you're gonna take his "whole team sucks at tackling" as "the WHOLE team sucks" ?? C'mon man ... lol

He's just pissed off that the Packers don't wrap up and take down as each kid is taught in pee wee. Players now (NFL wide) are more apt to angle for the big hit rather than just making sure the guy is down.

Hawk is talent and I'd like to see him stay. Do I like seeing the percentage of salary cap he's receiving? Not really, but then again when Aaron Rodgers gets ~14% I won't be thrilled with that either. There are 53 guys on the team. If 60% is wrapped up in the 22 starters and K and P ... I dunno.
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