Discussion Board
Welcome Guest! You can login or register. Login or Register.

Go to last post Go to first unread
#1 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2008 8:45:16 PM(UTC)

Can someone copy the text into this thread?
#2 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2008 8:50:01 PM(UTC)
Green Bay - It might have taken Aaron Rodgers three long years to become the Green Bay Packers' starting quarterback, but it took him about a week to realize this National Football League thing was going to be a little tougher than he thought.

Following a breakout season at the University of California, Rodgers came to the Packers after a very humbling freefall through the first round of the 2005 draft. He went from what he thought was a possibility of being picked No. 1 overall to being Ted Thompsons first pick as general manager 23 selections later.

On his very first day inside the Don Hutson Center, during a minicamp less than a week after the draft, Rodgers found himself running Mike Shermans offense with absolutely no clue. He was the quarterback, but veteran Craig Nall was standing behind him calling the play out to the rest of the huddle.

When I came in, it was kind of like, Its Bretts offense, whatever were going to do were going to do, and keep up, Rodgers said. Which was fine, it was a good challenge, but I couldnt keep up. I was struggling big time.

Thus, began the education of Aaron Rodgers.

He wouldnt know until this summer if it was going to be a one-year, three-year or five-year program, but from that point forward he was determined never again to feel like the dumbest kid in the class.

Three years later, as the Packers embark on their first season in the post-Favre era, Rodgers is ready. He has never started a regular-season game, but hes not Matt Ryan or Alex Smith or David Carr or any of those guys asked to be saviors right away.

Rodgers has had time lots of time to get ready. As the season begins, he may have exactly as many starts as Ryan, the Atlanta first-round draft choice, but he has valuable experience that will give him a better shot at handling arguably one of the hardest assignments in recent NFL history.

The way Aarons doing it, thats how you want it, said Jeff Jagodzinski, former Packers offensive coordinator and Ryans coach at Boston College. Sometimes it takes a guy longer to develop. Its a luxury if you can actually sit and learn.

Look how many young quarterbacks who played right away were ruined. Then look at Mark Brunell and Matt Hasselbeck and Aaron Brooks they all sat behind Brett and they learned how to play quarterback. If the past means anything, Aaron will do well.

The Packers have done everything they can to make the transition from Favre to Rodgers a smooth one. It got a little rough at the start of training camp when Favre decided he wanted to come out of retirement and get his job back, but Thompson and coach Mike McCarthy stood behind Rodgers, placing both of their futures on the line by sticking with the young guy.

Both men feel that the time is right for Rodgers to take over, not just because he fits the situation but because the situation fits him.

Im not talking bad about the 49ers, but our team was not ready for Alex, McCarthy said of his year tutoring Smith when McCarthy was San Franciscos offensive coordinator. We had 100 starts missed because of injury. We needed a quarterback to win a couple of games.

Here, we have a good defense, good special teams. Thats where I think were ready for this. Its been a process leading up to this, an education over the last three years. Hes matured. The only thing he needs is to be playing the game.

If Rodgers fails this season, it wont be because he is unprepared. Everything he has done the past three seasons has pointed toward this, and every hard lesson he has learned has shaped him into the quarterback and person he is now.

Dropped smack dab into the beating heart of the game, Rodgers made a decision early in his career to soak up everything he could from Favre. Extremely intelligent, sometimes cocky, but always aware of his surroundings, Rodgers figured things out quickly.

I think the first progression every quarterback makes is you come in being the guy, and if youre not the starter you realize that theres someone better in front of you, and thats a big step to take because when youre the guy youre confident, Rodgers said. Second, figure out the things he does that are better than you and study it and work on those things and improve.

When Rodgers arrived, Favre made no bones about refusing to be a mentor to him, stating in an interview that it wasnt his job. Nobody had done it for him, and besides, Favres No. 1 responsibility was to win games.

Rodgers had to accept that, but it didnt mean he wasnt going to watch Favre.

The best way to describe it was we were teammates the first year, Rodgers said. It was a very business relationship. But I was kind of in his hip pocket. My biggest thing was if were not going to be friends yet, which is fine, Im still going to be in his hip pocket until he tells me to get lost.

So Id stick my head in there when hes talking in the huddle and lean in and listen to what hes saying and listen to him in practice. Id watch him like a hawk. This guy is one of the greatest quarterbacks to every play, so I better figure out what hes doing.

What Rodgers noticed was the way Favre commanded the huddle. How he used his eyes to make it appear he was going to throw one way and then throw the other. How he never got fooled by what blitz the defense was about to run. How he anticipated exactly where a receiver was going to make his break and threw the ball before it even happened. How he never had a bad practice.

And then Rodgers would study it.

Anytime he opened his mouth in meetings to talk to a receiver I listened, Rodgers said. I wrote it down. I have journals from the first three years, note and notes. Notes from computers Ive printed out. I have them stashed in my filing cabinet.

During his first year, Rodgers struggled badly during the exhibition season and his only extended playing time came in a dreadful 48-3 loss to the Baltimore Ravens. He replaced Favre in the fourth quarter and was sacked three times twice from behind that resulted in fumbles returned for touchdowns and threw an interception in the end zone.

It was another humbling experience, but one Rodgers took with him into the off-season.

The highlight was talking to Deion Sanders between the third and fourth quarters, Rodgers said. I realized at that point, I was kind of like a kid who was just out of place a little bit, on this field with these great stars and Im not performing. That was the most frustrating thing, and I knew that off-season I had to make some improvements to get to where I want to go.

After the 2005 season, Sherman was fired and McCarthy hired.

All of a sudden there were new demands on Rodgers. He was required to attend off-season quarterback school, six hours of it several days a week. Then McCarthy got on him about his weight. Rodgers weighed 228 at the time and measured about 15% body fat. McCarthy wanted the body fat down to 10% to 12%.

I fought it and I was like, Why? Rodgers said. But I think it definitely helped me out. Im 217 right now, the lightest Ive been before my sophomore year at Cal, and Im a lot stronger and more fit. But I fought the system. Change has always been tough. Any type of change in my life Ive always met with some resistance, so we butted heads the first year a little bit.

Favre didnt attend McCarthys quarterback school and didnt make his decision to return for another year until just before the draft. When he showed up, he didnt know any of the terminology of McCarthys system.

With Nall gone to Buffalo, Rodgers was the only familiar face in the quarterback room, and he was able to lean over and tell Favre which plays under the Sherman system corresponded to the ones McCarthy was teaching. It was at that point that Favre and Rodgers started to become close.

During the 06 season, Rodgers mostly ran the opponents offense on the scout team. But those repetitions proved valuable because McCarthy and quarterbacks coach Tom Clements structured it so plays that were similar to those in the Packers playbook were called with Packers terminology.

Thus, on many plays, Rodgers was simulating the Packers offense.

Rodgers only significant playing time came after Favre hurt his elbow against New England, and the results werent pretty. He completed 4 of 12 passes and was sacked three times. Not until after the game did Rodgers realize he had suffered a broken foot that ended his season.

Even though the injury stunted his progression on the field, he continued to make strides off it, showing less of the cockiness and salesmanship he brought with him from Cal. Through the urging of offensive coordinator Joe Philbin, he became more conscious of his body language and stopped being so demonstrative when a teammate made a poor play.

You come into the league when youre 21, I would hope youd mature a lot between then and now, said former NFL quarterback Trent Dilfer, a close friend of Rodgers. And thats kind of what Aaron did. Thats really the time when you understand the responsibility of manhood and having a bigger picture of life. All of that makes you more well-rounded and it helped him as a football player, too.

Rodgers education continued into 07. McCarthy urged Favre to spend more time mentoring Rodgers, and Favre responded.

My first year, he was kind of like, Yeah, he needs to grow up and this and that, McCarthy said. I told Brett, You need to give back now. Youre at the point now where youre older than most the quarterbacks coaches in the league. You can give back, not only to Aaron. Brett really embraced that. Thats one of the things you dont really hear about.

Besides continuing to study coverages and meeting with Favre on the sideline during games, in 07 Rodgers was given a scouting assignment. As soon as the game was over, he started working on the next opponent, providing a report on Wednesday morning to the coaches and other quarterbacks.

He would watch tape on Mondays and Tuesdays and write the report Tuesday night. It started out being a report on the cornerbacks Favre would be facing that week, but it advanced into in-depth reports on schemes, tendencies and other players.

Favre used to joke that Rodgers presentation was his least favorite part of the week, but Clements said the work was invaluable for Rodgers. Soon he was coming up with the same evaluations as the coaches.

It wound up being especially valuable when Rodgers got pressed into action against Dallas on Nov. 29. When Favre got knocked out of the game, Rodgers came in and completed 18 of 26 passes for 201 yards and a touchdown, nearly rallying the Packers to victory on the road.

The touchdown I threw was exactly what we saw on film, the exact defense we were expecting, Rodgers said. It was the exact play call we talked about during the week, the play I had seen on film on Tuesday. I said, I hope we get this look during the game. And sure of enough were on the 8-yard line and they give us that look and I hit Greg (Jennings) and he scores.

As the season begins, there should be many more opportunities like that one. Rodgers carries with him a Harvard degree in quarterbacking, the kind only a few have the luxury of obtaining. Rodgers wont outwardly resemble the quarterback Favre was, but there will be subtle similarities that coaches and teammates will recognize.

Rodgers, to be sure, is his own man, his own quarterback. But the lessons he learned along the way, those are what prepared him for this day.
#3 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2008 8:59:36 PM(UTC)
How can there be an excellent way to compare a guy who is in the twilight of his career vs a guy who just started his second game?
Greg C.  
#4 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2008 9:04:18 PM(UTC)
Good article. I read it when it was published, which was a couple days before the first game of the season. The article paints a very good picture of Aaron Rodgers, but my favorite part is about Brett Favre and how he helped out Rodgers in '07:

My first year, he was kind of like, Yeah, he needs to grow up and this and that, McCarthy said. I told Brett, You need to give back now. Youre at the point now where youre older than most of the quarterbacks coaches in the league. You can give back, not only to Aaron. Brett really embraced that. Thats one of the things you dont really hear about.
Greg C.  
#5 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2008 9:06:43 PM(UTC)
" said: Go to Quoted Post
How can there be an excellent way to compare a guy who is in the twilight of his career vs a guy who just started his second game?

Who said they were being compared? I don't get it.
#6 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2008 9:15:39 PM(UTC)
" said: Go to Quoted Post
" said: Go to Quoted Post
How can there be an excellent way to compare a guy who is in the twilight of his career vs a guy who just started his second game?

Who said they were being compared? I don't get it.

Apparently no one as I've made a doofus of myself yet again. I just got done reading a comparison article and yeah...

Kevin 0

Sorry about that.
#7 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2008 9:16:12 PM(UTC)
That was a great read, thanks alot for posting it.
#8 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2008 9:43:58 PM(UTC)
" said: Go to Quoted Post
That was a great read, thanks alot for posting it.

I agree. Lots of very good things in there. I also think this is the first article I've read that ACCURATELY explains what happened with Rodgers broken foot against the Patriots.
#9 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2008 10:11:41 PM(UTC)
Great article. I've read so much negativity this summer I llke anything that is't trying to tear one side down
#10 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:21:54 AM(UTC)
Wouldn't you love to see Favre hang em up after this year and come back to be Rodger's QB coach?

once again, this just shows how media stories are not always accurate of what really happens. How many years did we hear that Favre did not help Rodgers. All because favre made one simple comment about it not being his "job" to mentor Rodgers.

Favre is a good guy. Rodgers is a good guy. Mike McCarthy is a good guy.....TT? well, he does a good job! LOL

(Actually, I think Ted Thompson is probably a really stand up guy.)
#11 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:38:18 AM(UTC)
That was an excellent read.
I liked the part about how Rodgers helped Brett understand McCarthys syatem, followed by the part about Brett giving back to Aaron.
God, I love Packer football.
#12 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:41:36 PM(UTC)
Well written, insightful article.

Thanks for posting. +1
Rss Feed
Users browsing this topic
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.



Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (45m) : @zachkruse2 Aaron Rodgers' passer rating in his 52 career regular season losses is 85.9, or just about identical to Brett Favre's career passer rating (86.0).
Zero2Cool (2h) : LeBron Tells Teams: Don't Call Me, I'll Call You
Cheesey (24-Jun) : “Take a week off, then retire”.
Cheesey (24-Jun) : Like Brett Favre said about the refs,
Zero2Cool (22-Jun) : Gene Steratore has now retired
Zero2Cool (22-Jun) : The fourth NFL referee to retire this offseason, after Ed Hochuli, Jeff Triplette and Terry McAulay.
Zero2Cool (22-Jun) : Today's Birthdays: hardrocker950 (34)
Zero2Cool (22-Jun) : Brewers hammer the Cardinals <-- nice headline to start the day.
Zero2Cool (22-Jun) : If not, no, I haven't heard nodda.
Zero2Cool (22-Jun) : I'm guessing it's flag football?
dhazer (21-Jun) : does anyone else know about Nick Collins return to football?
Zero2Cool (20-Jun) : Sporting News ranks Mike McCarthy fifth-best coach in NFL
Zero2Cool (18-Jun) : Tiger?
gbguy20 (18-Jun) : hot wife and he chases old women
Nonstopdrivel (18-Jun) : Oh, and one count of felony first-degree burglary.
Nonstopdrivel (18-Jun) : He's also charged with at least one count on kidnapping and two counts of attempted rape.
nerdmann (18-Jun) : Yeah, wtf Kellen?
Nonstopdrivel (18-Jun) : Kellen Winslow accused of raping and sexually assaulting several women between the ages of 54 and 86.
Zero2Cool (15-Jun) : Today's Birthdays: Toddy (26)
Cheesey (11-Jun) : Thanks Kevin.
Cheesey (11-Jun) : Ok.
Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : Alan, it's an online stream.
Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : McCarthy speaks at 10am, so probably 11am for practice start.
Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : McCarthy speaks at 10am, so probably 11am for practice start.
Cheesey (11-Jun) : I don’t know if I can get that station.
Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : Listen to 107.5 the fan they'll tell you. I'm at airport.
Cheesey (11-Jun) : Thanks for trying WPR! I guess I’ll have to just wing it.
wpr (11-Jun) : Cheesey, The Packer's site says Nitschke Field. 12 am to 11:59 pm. I don't think they know
Cheesey (11-Jun) : Come on!! U smart guys can help me on this!
Cheesey (11-Jun) : Do any of you know what time the Packers mini camp practice is tomorrow?
Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : Vince Lombardi would have been 105 today
Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : If I were Owens, after reading what some of the voters have said. I'd say F YOU too. Shady process.
Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : Apparently it costs the inductees a LOT of money to attend.
beast (10-Jun) : Or if Owens is avoiding all HoF activity? Or if he's trying to figure a way to make money off this. Simply saying he's not going to be there doesn't tell me enough
beast (10-Jun) : I feel as if I need more details. Owens said he's not physical showing up, but he could still give a speech via video.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2018 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 9 @ 7:20 PM
Sunday, Sep 16 @ 12:00 PM
Sunday, Sep 23 @ 12:00 PM
Sunday, Sep 30 @ 12:00 PM
Sunday, Oct 7 @ 12:00 PM
Monday, Oct 15 @ 7:15 PM
Sunday, Oct 28 @ 3:25 PM
Sunday, Nov 4 @ 7:20 PM
Sunday, Nov 11 @ 12:00 PM
Thursday, Nov 15 @ 7:20 PM
Sunday, Nov 25 @ 7:20 PM
Sunday, Dec 2 @ 12:00 PM
Sunday, Dec 9 @ 12:00 PM
Sunday, Dec 16 @ 12:00 PM
Sunday, Dec 23 @ 12:00 PM
Sunday, Dec 30 @ 12:00 PM
Think About It
Think About It
Recent Topics
46m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / isocleas2

3h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

16h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

23-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

23-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / sschind

22-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Cheesey

22-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

22-Jun / Around The NFL / Zero2Cool

22-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

21-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

19-Jun / Fantasy Sports Talk / Smokey

18-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Cheesey

18-Jun / Around The NFL / Nonstopdrivel

16-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Cheesey