Discussion Board
Welcome Guest! You can login or register. Login or Register.

Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
MintBaconDrivel  
#1 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 4:36:21 AM(UTC)
ProFootballTalk said:
Free agency opened 15 days ago.  This year, the initial surge of cash was more limited than ever, more than a few guys settled for one-year deals, and plenty of other players are still waiting to get paid. For some, the issue is cap space.  For many, it can't be.  As of Tuesday, March 26,

...

Others with eight figures include the Packers with $18.3 million, the Bills with $16.8 million, the Dolphins with $15.7 million, the Cardinals with $14.0 million, the supposedly spending-to-the-cap Patriots with $13.4 million, the supposedly cap-strapped Jets with $13.0 million, the Colts with $11.7 million, and the Titans with $10.7 million.
wpr  
#2 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:39:47 AM(UTC)
We will probably see more and more teams with room under the cap in the future. There will only be a handful of teams that get into a bind. It is too easy to release high priced players to make room. They will take a hit on the signing bonus but will save the 3rd-4th years of a contract plus in season bonus money.
Zero2Cool  
#3 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:47:11 AM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
We will probably see more and more teams with room under the cap in the future. There will only be a handful of teams that get into a bind. It is too easy to release high priced players to make room. They will take a hit on the signing bonus but will save the 3rd-4th years of a contract plus in season bonus money.


My question is ... why even ink the crazy stupid contract that is going to require restructuring or releasing the player? I don't get that.
PackFanWithTwins  
#4 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 6:30:43 AM(UTC)
The reason there seems to be more cap space than we normally see, is because teams used the end of the old CBA, the uncapped season, and provisions on how to move cap money forward in the new CBA, to set themselves up for the future and correct much of the cap nightmares.

As we move forward the next few years, we will see the good teams able to keep their cap in good shape and those NOT so good teams end up in hell again.
wpr  
#5 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 8:17:12 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
My question is ... why even ink the crazy stupid contract that is going to require restructuring or releasing the player? I don't get that.


there are many reasons.

1. spreads out the signing bonus. even if a team suspects that they may not keep a player long term it gives them more room in year 1 and 2. Perhaps a big contract will come off the books down the road so they don't mind the "dead weight penalty" they will get in year 3 and 4.

2. player diminishes in value faster than expected. Injury is one reason. Some players like RB have it one year and loss it "all" the next.

3. Poor agent. Shows his player how rich he will be over the course of the deal but doesn't realize he player is priced out of the market at the end. Note- releasing the player doesn't mean the team is not wiling to keep him. Just not at that price.

4. Draft or FA. The team picks a player who is better than the one they signed and they pay him less. This also applies to players who are already on the team and move up the depth chart.


I am sure there are other reasons but this is what I came up with for now.
User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#6 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 10:34:47 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
My question is ... why even ink the crazy stupid contract that is going to require restructuring or releasing the player? I don't get that.


Why did the banking system pass out all those NINJA loans? It's a way for the owners to screw the players. You don't actually think the owners lost in the last CBA agreement do you?
Pack93z  
#7 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 10:40:36 AM(UTC)
I think the capping for the rookies coming in is also playing a fair role in allowing teams to better manage the cap.. the top end of the draft isn't cluttered any longer with cap busting deals for unproven talent.. allowing more of the cap space to be shifted to the veteran players. It also allows teams to better manage keeping and managing the money factor for developing players.

Trickle down effect if you will.
Rss Feed
Users browsing this topic
Guest
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error

Fan Shout
Smokey (3h) : Yes, Insurance Agents do well . You must feel so superior .
rabidgopher04 (3h) : Fenway is electric. Great place to watch baseball. I've been a couple times.
wpr (6h) : A few have it already. Most have to save it to do things.
wpr (6h) : Yes Smokey, life takes money to do anything.
Smokey (9h) : IF THEY HAVE THE MONEY !
wpr (11h) : It is a must for everyone.
Zero2Cool (20h) : I gotta hit that place sometime. Red Sox fan. Hell as a Baseball fan you gotta see Fenway.
wpr (16-Aug) : Flew into Boston today. Took in a game at Fenway with my son.
Smokey (15-Aug) : JOIN PACKERSHOME , A GREAT PLACE TO POST !
beast (12-Aug) : Fairly good news on all the injuries other than having the concussions, but glad it wasn't worse.
buckeyepackfan (11-Aug) : stupid Zeke!!!
Zero2Cool (11-Aug) : De'Angelo Yancey said when he saw Malachi Dupre this afternoon "it was like he never even got hit."
DarkaneRules (11-Aug) : Trubisky lit it up last night. he was throwing darts, especially on the run. impressive
DarkaneRules (11-Aug) : evans had a good game otherwise but refs were rusty
DarkaneRules (11-Aug) : wish there wasn't such an obvious block in the back on the punt td
Tezzy (10-Aug) : Go Pack Go!
buckeyepackfan (10-Aug) : Will The Rivers run deep tonight? Only time will tell!?
Smokey (9-Aug) : GB vs Philly , "Chat" will be "Open" .
Porforis (9-Aug) : Shh... Kids these days like cookies...
Smokey (9-Aug) : and Polls !
Porforis (8-Aug) : We have cookies.
Smokey (7-Aug) : COME JOIN OUR FORUM !
Smokey (7-Aug) : JOIN NOW , JOIN TODAY !
Zero2Cool (7-Aug) : Davon House sits out of the Packers’ Monday practice with a hamstring injury
DarkaneRules (7-Aug) : House not in pads today. Hope to hear "we're just being cautious with him" later
Cheesey (7-Aug) : Good time to get th FG misses in, when it doesn't count.
Smokey (6-Aug) : M. Crosby , will be ok
DarkaneRules (6-Aug) : 6 missed field goals. that will be your headline because media
Smokey (6-Aug) : now I have
Smokey (6-Aug) : Have not seen Jamal Williams (RB) .
DarkaneRules (6-Aug) : it's not a game but this punter looks legit
Smokey (6-Aug) : yes
DarkaneRules (6-Aug) : http://www.tmj4.com/sports/green-bay-packers/green-bay-packers-family-night-2017
Smokey (6-Aug) : yes it sucks
DarkaneRules (6-Aug) : still waiting for something to show up on the stream
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2017 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM
SEAHAWKS
Sunday, Sep 17 @ 7:30 PM
at Falcons
Sunday, Sep 24 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Oct 8 @ 3:25 PM
at Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 15 @ 12:00 PM
at Vikings
Sunday, Oct 22 @ 12:00 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 AM
- BYE -
Monday, Nov 6 @ 7:30 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM
at Bears
Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM
RAVENS
Sunday, Nov 26 @ 7:30 PM
at Steelers
Sunday, Dec 3 @ 12:00 PM
BUCCANEERS
Sunday, Dec 10 @ 12:00 PM
at Browns
Sunday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM
at Panthers
Saturday, Dec 23 @ 7:30 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Dec 31 @ 12:00 PM
at Lions
Think About It
Think About It
Recent Topics
4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

8h / Green Bay Packers Talk / gbguy20

9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

19h / Green Bay Packers Talk / DarkaneRules

20h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

15-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / yooperfan

15-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

13-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / rabidgopher04

13-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / steveishere

11-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

10-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / DarkaneRules

10-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

10-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / DarkaneRules

Headlines