Join Our Green Bay Packers Interactive Community!

We have been providing fans with the best source of Packers information since 2006!
Your participation is greatly anticipated!
Login or Register.
2 Pages<12
Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Offline ChilliMaddensChilli  
#11 Posted : Wednesday, September 17, 2008 7:31:20 PM(UTC)
ChilliMaddensChilli

Rank: Fresh Cheesehead

Joined: 8/11/2008(UTC)


If Rodgers wins 4+ pro bowls and/or a Lombardi trophy then Smith will be a top candidate for biggest bust ever.
UserPostedImage
Offline Zero2Cool  
#12 Posted : Wednesday, September 17, 2008 7:43:09 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool

Rank: Legend

Yahoo! Fantasy Football - Gold: 2009FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2011ESPN NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2013

United States
Joined: 10/13/2006(UTC)
Location: Green Bay, WI

Applause Given: 1,966
Applause Received: 2,223

Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
If Rodgers wins 4+ pro bowls and/or a Lombardi trophy then Smith will be a top candidate for biggest bust ever.


I get what you're saying, but I have to disagree. I don't think one player should be called a bust based on another players career.
"I do not think there is any thrill that can go through the human heart like that felt by the inventor as he sees some creation of the brain unfolding to success... such emotions make a man forget food, sleep, friends, love, everything." - Nikola Tesla

UserPostedImage
Offline CaliforniaCheez  
#13 Posted : Wednesday, September 17, 2008 8:26:55 PM(UTC)
CaliforniaCheez

Rank: 4th Round Draft Pick

Joined: 9/15/2008(UTC)

Applause Given: 5
Applause Received: 132

Quarterbacks need time to develop. Before we go overboard on Rodgers remember he was very bad his first two years. The coaching staf was changing his mechanics and he did not manage the clock well in the two minute drill.

Then in 2007 he was impressive in the improvement demonstrated on the field. In preseason he improvised when things went wrong or receivers ran the wrong routes. It was a huge jump and the mechanics were under control.

He still is learning and with experience will only continue to improve. Look again for a jump next year as he studies this year's film of himself as a starter and analyzes what he can do better.

Now for Alex Smith. Living in the area I have seen many of his games and saw him from day one. McCarthy had him as a rookie almost always rolling outto the right so he only had to scan half the field. His protection was not good. It was obvious he was not ready. They threw him into the deep end of the pool and told him to learn how swim.

Norv Turner actually got the most out of him his second year. There is an apprenticeship to Quarterbacking and Norv was the most patient and understanding coach he has had.

Mike Martz is now his 4th Offensive Coodinator. The guy never had a chance to work on NFL level mechanics and some bad habits were never corrected as there ws no time. Alex Smith will rehab and end up as a back up on some middle of the road team next year. I hope he can resurrect his career in a couple of years.

What is not mentioned is that Flynn and Brohm now have the opportunities as Rodgers did. Eventually one will be kept and one will be traded for a chance to play elsewhere. Ted will have backups and a profit on the draft pick obtained.

Things are fine in Green Bay. Let's hope Flynn does not have to get thrown in like Alex Smith.
blank
Offline zombieslayer  
#14 Posted : Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:18:00 PM(UTC)
zombieslayer

Rank: Most Valuable Player

Joined: 8/7/2008(UTC)
Location: San Francisco

Applause Given: 778
Applause Received: 495

Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
A good article overall, but I disagree with the author's statement that a QB is more important to a team than a star basketball player. In basketball, there are only five players on the floor at one time, and they play both offense and defense. One player can have an enormous impact in that situation. In football, you've got 11 players on the field, and none of them are there more than half the time. Of course a QB is very important, but I think this guy is exaggerating.


I think Michael Jordan did more for the Bulls than any QB did for their team, including Joe Montana and Tom Brady.

I don't even think this guy's a good writer. He tries to say things to elicit responses and blows things out of proportion.
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage

(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)

2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. Ted Thompson Mike McCarthy Aaron Rodgers
Offline CubanPenguin  
#15 Posted : Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:23:50 PM(UTC)
CubanPenguin

Rank: Fresh Cheesehead

Joined: 11/5/2006(UTC)


Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
A good article overall, but I disagree with the author's statement that a QB is more important to a team than a star basketball player. In basketball, there are only five players on the floor at one time, and they play both offense and defense. One player can have an enormous impact in that situation. In football, you've got 11 players on the field, and none of them are there more than half the time. Of course a QB is very important, but I think this guy is exaggerating.



Very good point but the first thing that came to my mind was a goalie in Hockey, they are by far the most important individual on a hockey team.

A great one can make a bad team good and a bad one can make a great team bad. Also the same can be said for a soccer goalie, but there are far less shots in soccer that a good D can hold them to just a few.
blank
Offline dingus  
#16 Posted : Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:19:53 PM(UTC)
dingus

Rank: 5th Round Draft Pick

Joined: 8/13/2008(UTC)

Applause Given: 18
Applause Received: 27

Good points, CalCheez
blank
Offline Trippster  
#17 Posted : Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:37:03 AM(UTC)
Trippster

Rank: 5th Round Draft Pick

Joined: 8/8/2008(UTC)

Applause Received: 10

Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
A good article overall, but I disagree with the author's statement that a QB is more important to a team than a star basketball player. In basketball, there are only five players on the floor at one time, and they play both offense and defense. One player can have an enormous impact in that situation. In football, you've got 11 players on the field, and none of them are there more than half the time. Of course a QB is very important, but I think this guy is exaggerating.



Very good point but the first thing that came to my mind was a goalie in Hockey, they are by far the most important individual on a hockey team.

A great one can make a bad team good and a bad one can make a great team bad. Also the same can be said for a soccer goalie, but there are far less shots in soccer that a good D can hold them to just a few.


being an ex goalie, I agree!!! :thumbleft:

Acually, I don't think you can compare. they all have such different responsibilities and influence on their team. I would guess that in the other sports (football, hockey, etc) there can be plays that do not include them and many times are. In football though, all (well, 99,9%) plays include the QB and are heavily influenced by his physical play and the decisions he makes.
"Let Your Light Shine!"
Rss Feed 
Users browsing this topic
Guest
2 Pages<12
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error

Tweeter

Recent Topics
23m / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

3h / Green Bay Packers Talk / DakotaT

3h / Green Bay Packers Talk / steveishere

4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / DarkaneRules

9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / sschind

10h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Tezzy

11h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

18h / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

18h / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

20h / Green Bay Packers Talk / porky88

22-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / packman82

22-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

22-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / macbob

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool