Discussion Board
Welcome Guest! You can login or register. Login or Register.
2 Pages<12

Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Pack93z  
#21 Posted : Friday, March 29, 2013 10:55:26 AM(UTC)
PackFanWithTwins said: Go to Quoted Post
If they dump the money in a Signing bonus, there is no option on how to structure it, which is why I see them using current cap space and roster bonuses instead. If they put 40 million in a signing bonus over 6 years, that is 6.6million hit per year each of the years. And that can't be restructured later on.

That is how they worked his last contract.


I worded that poorly... very poorly.. what I meant is that upon signing the deal there will be a large real cash bonus attached to it (might be delayed for maybe even a year)... but it may not be accounted for as a "Signing bonus". A roster bonus like they paid out in 2009 (over 7 million) but a very small actual salary for that year.

The cap number was elevated somewhat that year but allowed for the remainder of the deal to be structured with variable base salaries and yearly roster bonuses that provided a large chunk of cash on a certain date.

And yes.. that is how I think they will structure the front of this contract to put his overall number around the mid teens this season (his current 9.75 +), give him a large chunk of real dollars now and allow the Packers long term flexibility over the life of his deal.
User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#22 Posted : Friday, March 29, 2013 11:30:03 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
I've heard that it's going to be a 6 year deal averaging $25 million per. I wouldn't even sign Barry Sanders for that money.


Aaron Rodgers is way better and way more valuable than Barry Sanders even in his prime. In addition, QBs have a lot longer span of excellence than RBs - most of the time. As with the example of a contract I wrote earlier, a longer contract is better - 10 years or more, both for the peace of mind of keeping him for his whole career AND because a longer contract is more cap friendly.
Zero2Cool  
#23 Posted : Friday, March 29, 2013 11:40:22 AM(UTC)
texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
Aaron Rodgers is way better and way more valuable than Barry Sanders even in his prime. In addition, QBs have a lot longer span of excellence than RBs - most of the time. As with the example of a contract I wrote earlier, a longer contract is better - 10 years or more, both for the peace of mind of keeping him for his whole career AND because a longer contract is more cap friendly.


Tread lightly on the Barry Sanders stuff there friend, tread ... lightly. :)
Pack93z  
#24 Posted : Friday, March 29, 2013 11:42:19 AM(UTC)
texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
Aaron Rodgers is way better and way more valuable than Barry Sanders even in his prime. =d> .


I don't have any disagreement with any of the comments.. however Zero "Sanders" 2 cool might have a thing or two to say about this... it is always enjoyable to watch Zero embrace his Barry Sanders fanhood in a fever.

UserPostedImage
nerdmann  
#25 Posted : Friday, March 29, 2013 12:12:37 PM(UTC)
I'd give him a HUGE incentive based around number of first downs. LOL
dhazer  
#26 Posted : Friday, March 29, 2013 12:57:43 PM(UTC)
Someone please tell me why he is the greatest qb in the league?
Does he lead the league in yards ? NO
Does he lead the league in TDs? NO
Does he lead the league in Passer rating (stupidest stat of all when you look at number 3 and 4 are both rookies so I guess they are the 3rd and 4th best qb in the league) Yes
Did he throw the fewest int's ? Nope RG3 had fewer


His won loss record including playoffs is 56-29 and at the same time you take the so called useless qb in Baltimore and his record for the same time is 60-30 and won a game every year in the playoffs except once. Unlike Rodgers that hasn't one a playoff game but one year.


Yes he is a good qb but is he the far and away best? Not in my mind, For one year I would take Brady and Manning over him and for the long haul I would take Andrew Luck


Those are my thoughts, should he paid in the top tier yes, but claiming him the best by far is looking thru to many green and gold glasses because their is no proof behind it.
User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#27 Posted : Friday, March 29, 2013 1:07:09 PM(UTC)
dhazer said: Go to Quoted Post
Someone please tell me why he is the greatest qb in the league?
Does he lead the league in yards ? NO
Does he lead the league in TDs? NO
Does he lead the league in Passer rating (stupidest stat of all when you look at number 3 and 4 are both rookies so I guess they are the 3rd and 4th best qb in the league) Yes
Did he throw the fewest int's ? Nope RG3 had fewer


His won loss record including playoffs is 56-29 and at the same time you take the so called useless qb in Baltimore and his record for the same time is 60-30 and won a game every year in the playoffs except once. Unlike Rodgers that hasn't one a playoff game but one year.


Yes he is a good qb but is he the far and away best? Not in my mind, For one year I would take Brady and Manning over him and for the long haul I would take Andrew Luck


Those are my thoughts, should he paid in the top tier yes, but claiming him the best by far is looking thru to many green and gold glasses because their is no proof behind it.


Aaron Rodgers does more with less quality around him than Brady or Manning, and probably even Griffin. We'll see about Luck in a few years. Where did ARod rank in those categories last year and the year before? or over the last 3-4 years?

User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#28 Posted : Friday, March 29, 2013 1:16:18 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Tread lightly on the Barry Sanders stuff there friend, tread ... lightly. :)



Well, excu-u-u-u-use me hahaha. Sanders jitterbugged around better than any runner in my long history of being a football fan. I would consider him to be better than Emmitt Smith, Walter Payton, and Adrian Peterson, and right up there with Jim Brown and Gayle Sayers. However, RBs don't usually dominate like QBs. Just look at how the Lions were even with Sanders's greatness - or the Vikings with Peterson or the Bears with Sayers and Payton.

Sorry, but I still consider Rodgers far more valuable and better overall in terms of helping his team win.

dhazer  
#29 Posted : Friday, March 29, 2013 1:35:59 PM(UTC)
texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
Aaron Rodgers does more with less quality around him than Brady or Manning, and probably even Griffin. We'll see about Luck in a few years. Where did ARod rank in those categories last year and the year before? or over the last 3-4 years?



With less quality? You are not serious are you? Name the 2nd and 3rd wr for the Pats or the 2nd and 3rd for Indy when Peyton was there?The Packers were suppose to have the best WR corp in the nfl.

Ok here you go
2011
lead league in yards - No
lead league in tds - no
fewest ints - no
passer rating - yes


2010

yards - no
tds - no
ints - no
passer rating - no

2009

yards - no
tds - no
fewest ints - yes tied with Favre
passer rating - no



what more do you want?

PackFanWithTwins  
#30 Posted : Friday, March 29, 2013 2:29:56 PM(UTC)
texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
Aaron Rodgers does more with less quality around him than Brady or Manning, and probably even Griffin. We'll see about Luck in a few years. Where did ARod rank in those categories last year and the year before? or over the last 3-4 years?



That exact same comment has been said about Brady by his fans, Manning by his fans. And was said about Favre in his day also, and it is BS for them and BS for Rodgers. We talk about how great or WR group has been, that is not because they are bad players. They all just have teams with different dynamics, they each have had better and worse talent than the others.

User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#31 Posted : Friday, March 29, 2013 5:13:28 PM(UTC)
dhazer said: Go to Quoted Post
With less quality? You are not serious are you? Name the 2nd and 3rd wr for the Pats or the 2nd and 3rd for Indy when Peyton was there?The Packers were suppose to have the best WR corp in the nfl.

Ok here you go
2011
lead league in yards - No
lead league in tds - no
fewest ints - no
passer rating - yes


2010

yards - no
tds - no
ints - no
passer rating - no

2009

yards - no
tds - no
fewest ints - yes tied with Favre
passer rating - no



what more do you want?



I stand by what I said. Rodgers means more to the Packers success/does more with less surrounding him. The Packers O-Line was mediocre when healthy and awful with the injuries. You literally never saw Rodgers have time to throw without pressure; The running game was non-existent most of the season and upgraded to mediocre at the end with EDS and Harris; And the receivers, while very very good, arguably were made that way by Rodgers. Oh yeah, Gronk and Hernandez after Welker, along with a very good O-Line and plenty of time to throw for the Pats; Harrison, Wayne, and Clark for Indy in Peyton's prime years, along with an excellent O-Line and plenty of time there too.

cheeseheads123  
#32 Posted : Friday, March 29, 2013 5:39:24 PM(UTC)
dhazer said: Go to Quoted Post

For one year I would take Brady and Manning over him

Behind the packers offensive line? That wouldn't make sense
Rss Feed
Users browsing this topic
Guest
2 Pages<12
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error

Fan Shout
TheKanataThrilla (2h) : Yoop I am up from New York. Ogdenbugh is about an hour drive. Close to Syracuse as well, but never checked out any football or basketball ga
Zero2Cool (2h) : Today's Birthdays: polargrizz (63)
TheKanataThrilla (2h) : Go Lions, Chargers and Redskins. No doubt they all will lose as I am terrible on picking the Thursday game.
TheKanataThrilla (2h) : My football pool buddies and I will be celebrating. We even have a bar that'll serve a turkey dinner.
TheKanataThrilla (2h) : Hahahaha
yooperfan (3h) : Happy Thanksgiving to all Packers fans from da U.P.of Michigan eh ??
TheKanataThrilla (3h) : Happy Thanks Giving to my friends in the South. We should all be thankful for Aaron Rodgers for obvious reasons. Go Pack Go!!!
Nonstopdrivel (4h) : Happy Thanksgiving to you too.
buckeyepackfan (8h) : HAPPY THANKSGIVING PACKER FANS!!
uffda udfa (11h) : Sam Shields wants to return to NFL in 2018. Faces 2 game suspension.
uffda udfa (17h) : Lions sign Dwight Freeney
Zero2Cool (20h) : @Chiefs We have signed free agent cornerback Darrelle Revis.
Zero2Cool (23h) : Lions sign DT Christian Ringo to the 53-man roster from the practice squad, takes Khyri Thornton's spot
Smokey (21-Nov) : Don't look back, I'm gaining beast ! LOL
beast (21-Nov) : Thanks Smokey!
Zero2Cool (21-Nov) : I'm not confident vs Steelers. But they are up/down a lot.
dhazer (21-Nov) : I actually had a Steeler fan ask me why the stadium was still packed at the end of the game on Sunday. I said we back our team no matter wha
dhazer (21-Nov) : Kevin we will beat that this week lol
Zero2Cool (21-Nov) : Cowboys have one touchdown in 2 games. One TD in 22 possessions. One
Smokey (21-Nov) : Nice Week 11 Pick'em beast , salute !
hardrocker950 (21-Nov) : No late game heroics for Seattle tonight
yinzer (21-Nov) : You can do much worse than having the Steelers as your favorite team... that being said, Go Steelers!
uffda udfa (21-Nov) : Gilbert is/was their starting RT.
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : Steelers OT Marcus Gilbert suspended four games for violating performance-enhancing substance policy.
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : and my 1st favorite team.
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : Packers are my 2nd favorite team.
uffda udfa (20-Nov) : Are Steelers your 2nd favorite team? I know you live the Pens and are from there.
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : Steelers are league-best 4-1 vs. teams who currently have a winning record.
uffda udfa (20-Nov) : Kenny Clark x-rays were negative. Says he's fine.
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : "I believe in Brett Hundley," McCarthy conclude. Quick, check coach for concussion!
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : RB Aaron Jones was arrested in October for marijuana, driving without a license, and speeding.
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : NFL Receiver Terry Glenn Has Died in a Car Accident
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : @BenFennell_NFL Not to be overlooked...
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : Packers run defense lately has been outstanding Since Nov 1 (3 games)... 59.0 YPG (3rd in NFL) and 2.33 YPC (2nd in NFL)
beast (20-Nov) : See you are troll, your true colors are showing
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2017 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM
SEAHAWKS
Sunday, Sep 17 @ 7:30 PM
at Falcons
Sunday, Sep 24 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Oct 8 @ 3:25 PM
at Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 15 @ 12:00 PM
at Vikings
Sunday, Oct 22 @ 12:00 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 AM
- BYE -
Monday, Nov 6 @ 7:30 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM
at Bears
Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM
RAVENS
Sunday, Nov 26 @ 7:30 PM
at Steelers
Sunday, Dec 3 @ 12:00 PM
BUCCANEERS
Sunday, Dec 10 @ 12:00 PM
at Browns
Sunday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM
at Panthers
Saturday, Dec 23 @ 7:30 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Dec 31 @ 12:00 PM
at Lions
Think About It
Think About It
Recent Topics
34m / Green Bay Packers Talk / dhazer

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / DoddPower

12h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Cheesey

16h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

17h / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

19h / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

22h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

22-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

22-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

22-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

22-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

22-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

Headlines