Discussion Board
Welcome Guest! You can login or register. Login or Register.

Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
MintBaconDrivel  
#1 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 6:57:06 AM(UTC)
ProFootballTalk said:
The Packers and Aaron Rodgers are a couple million dollars a year apart as they continue discussing a new contract that would keep him in Green Bay into his mid-30s. Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reports that the two sides are roughly $2 million a year apart. That might sound like a lot, but when

Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reports that the two sides are roughly $2 million a year apart. That might sound like a lot, but when we’re talking about adding another four years and somewhere around $100 million in new money to Rodgers’ deal, a $2 million a year difference is something that the sides can work through.

The Packers would need to go a little beyond $100 million in new money over four additional years if they’re going to pay Rodgers more over the next six seasons than the $120 million deal Joe Flacco signed. Rapoport reports that the Packers are currently offering more than $21 million a year, and that Rodgers will end up with a better deal than Flacco got.

Flacco, of course, got his great deal in large part because he bet on himself, turned the Ravens down last year and proved himself worthy of more money by winning the Super Bowl MVP award. If the Packers don’t add another $2 million a year to their offer, Rodgers may try to do the same.
User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#2 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 10:51:08 AM(UTC)
I'll be very disappointed if the duration is that short. I want to see a "to the end of his career" contract similar to what Favre got - 10 years or so. That same $25 million a year is about right, but it would be a cap killer if the duration is just 4 years, even in the form of an extension. Make it ten years and we have the peace of mind to not need to go through the process again while he is in his prime, and with a ten year deal, the cap hit can be very manageable for the first few years. I'm sure Thompson and Ball know all that, but the media types reporting about it, maybe not so much.
nerdmann  
#3 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 10:54:35 AM(UTC)
Incentives based on number of first downs and TIME OF POSSESSION.
Laser Gunns  
#4 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 12:02:12 PM(UTC)
Bye bye cap room.

Nice knowin' ya.
yooperfan  
#5 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 2:14:37 PM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Incentives based on number of first downs and TIME OF POSSESSION.


I like that time of possession thing.
Forty two second drives don't thrill me even if it's for a TD.
That just puts a tired defense back on the field without much rest.

User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#6 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 2:16:30 PM(UTC)
RajiRoar said: Go to Quoted Post
Bye bye cap room.

Nice knowin' ya.


Rodgers could get $250 million or so for 10 years, and the cap hit would be $10 million or less the first year and still manageable for 3-5 years after that. By then, either the cap is a lot higher or he restructures for the good of the team and some incentive to himself or, heaven forbid, he has faded or gotten injured, and gets cut. Cap issues are usually overrated and solveable.

DoddPower  
#7 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 3:43:42 PM(UTC)
texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
Rodgers could get $250 million or so for 10 years, and the cap hit would be $10 million or less the first year and still manageable for 3-5 years after that. By then, either the cap is a lot higher or he restructures for the good of the team and some incentive to himself or, heaven forbid, he has faded or gotten injured, and gets cut. Cap issues are usually overrated and solveable.



What COULD happen and what actually WILL happen are completely different things. I get what you're saying, but just because a scenario like that could happen, doesn't mean it's going to, at all. We shall see.
dfosterf  
#8 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 4:00:37 PM(UTC)
We could trade him.

Can the Green Bay Packers afford to have the highest paid player in the NFL?

I watched "moneyball" for the 4th time last night.

I wonder what we could get for him?

It's gonna be the big number, why wouldn't it?

I cannot help but reflecting upon Dhazer bitchin' about his previous contract.

Many posted that he might sign for a "discount", or a "team friendly" contract...

How quaint! lol

Those were the good times! Our "window", imo----

You might consider forgetting many of the names of players you like on this team if we do this deal, which we will do, imo.

Maybe we should drop a tier at the position...
User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#9 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 5:04:38 PM(UTC)
dfosterf said: Go to Quoted Post
We could trade him.

Can the Green Bay Packers afford to have the highest paid player in the NFL?

I watched "moneyball" for the 4th time last night.

I wonder what we could get for him?

It's gonna be the big number, why wouldn't it?

I cannot help but reflecting upon Dhazer bitchin' about his previous contract.

Many posted that he might sign for a "discount", or a "team friendly" contract...

How quaint! lol

Those were the good times! Our "window", imo----

You might consider forgetting many of the names of players you like on this team if we do this deal, which we will do, imo.

Maybe we should drop a tier at the position...


I'm with you on a lot of things, Gunny, but not this. No way in hell! It is absolutely unthinkable to trade Rodgers for any price.

Dodd, I think it's a given that Thompson is gonna work out a deal that keeps Rodgers and doesn't ruin the cap situation. In a couple different threads, I posted examples of how that could be done. The key is a large bonus and a very long term - ten years or so. Doing the numbers leads only to that conclusion IMO. "Team friendly" only works when it is good for the player too, you got that right, but what I'm talking about certainly is.
dfosterf  
#10 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 5:11:56 PM(UTC)
If we traded away Aaron Rodgers, I'd go postal. I'm messin' with old posts, and old posters.

User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#11 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 5:18:01 PM(UTC)
dfosterf said: Go to Quoted Post
If we traded away Aaron Rodgers, I'd go postal. I'm messin' with old posts, and old posters.



Good - My Faith is restored hahaha.

steveishere  
#12 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 5:40:41 PM(UTC)
yooperfan said: Go to Quoted Post
I like that time of possession thing.
Forty two second drives don't thrill me even if it's for a TD.
That just puts a tired defense back on the field without much rest.



Well GB was 6th in the league in passing first downs despite being 16th in attempts. Sure scoring really quickly can possible be a negative for the defense but that isn't the main problem on GBs defense. The main problem is the defense isn't very good at stopping teams on 3rd downs or preventing 1st downs in general. They tend to tighten up in the red zone but you can't just blame the offense for why the defense cannot get themselves off the field.

GB runs one of the most efficient offenses in the league. They convert 3rd downs well, they don't have to punt that often, they don't turn the ball over. All of these things greatly outweigh the negatives of a quick scoring drive every now and then. If the defense wants to rest they need to get their own asses off the field every once in a while instead of giving up 5-6 minute FG drives.
MintBaconDrivel  
#13 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 7:09:03 PM(UTC)
JSOnline said:
When - not if - the Packers reach agreement with QB Aaron Rodgers on a record-setting contract extension, they will have some flexibility in managing the impact it has on their salary cap.
User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#14 Posted : Tuesday, April 2, 2013 5:41:03 AM(UTC)
MintBaconDrivel said: Go to Quoted Post


Good Article - it says virtually the same as what I have been saying all along hahaha. Longer is better. They are saying 6 instead of 4. I say 10 instead of either 6 or 4. It also says the Ravens and Saints are counting on big cap increases in the future - the Flacco and Brees contracts are very similar to the example I wrote up about Rodgers in structure. JSOnline says they are between 23 and 25 million per year. Just make it an average of 24 million and get the job done. We actually could be better off cap-wise if the Rodgers and Matthews deals go throw, as instead of the well known $18 million figure under now, there is actually about $32 million to work with including what those two will count this year based on current contracts. This is NOT the mess some make it out to be.

Rss Feed
Users browsing this topic
Guest
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error

Fan Shout
Smokey (12h) : not so , Miami voted no .
Nonstopdrivel (12h) : The twist? The only team to vote against the move was Oakland.
Smokey (14h) : NFL Owner's vote 31 - 1 for the Raiders to move to Las Vegas in 2020 .
Zero2Cool (20h) : Mark Murphy: Teams paid 'more than we thought was reasonable' for Packers' free agents
Zero2Cool (21h) : Seahawks backup quarterback arrested for marijuana possession after car he was riding in drives into a bar
Zero2Cool (21h) : I see JT, you should tell JT to post.
hardrocker950 (27-Mar) : Nice to see that Dorleant got arrested just a few miles from here...
Cheesey (26-Mar) : Sanchez with the Bears....LOLOLOL!!!!
Zero2Cool (26-Mar) : We should hope it does not happen.
hardrocker950 (25-Mar) : I doubt that happens...
Smokey (24-Mar) : GB needs to trade up in the draft to get THE Ohio State CB - Marshon Lattimore !
Zero2Cool (24-Mar) : QB Mark Sanchez joining the Bears.
Zero2Cool (24-Mar) : double it up
Zero2Cool (24-Mar) : I'm kidding, relax....
Zero2Cool (24-Mar) : and now he has been cut
uffda udfa (23-Mar) : Per Schefter: Former Skins DT Ricky Jean Francois signed a one-year, $3M deal with Packers, per source.
uffda udfa (23-Mar) : Per Schefter: FormerSkins DT Ricky Jean Francois signed a one-year, $3M deal with Packers, per source.
Zero2Cool (23-Mar) : lol by .01 not what i thought
Zero2Cool (23-Mar) : he's faster than Montgomery
uffda udfa (22-Mar) : Packers re-sign Christine Michael
Smokey (22-Mar) : Easier said than fixed .
Nonstopdrivel (22-Mar) : The web version lists who started the thread; the mobile version lists who last updated it.
Nonstopdrivel (22-Mar) : Also, there's a weird disparity between the web version and online version of this site.
Nonstopdrivel (22-Mar) : ;-)
Zero2Cool (21-Mar) : Packers wanted D. Ware in 2005. Thank you Cowboys!
Zero2Cool (21-Mar) : lol Rourke
Nonstopdrivel (21-Mar) : I HATE HATE HATE the way all threads get marked as read after viewing a few of them in one session. It's obnoxious.
Smokey (21-Mar) : Check out this site, NFLdraftscout.com , a great resource site.
Smokey (20-Mar) : Jared Cook signs with Raiders .
Smokey (20-Mar) : I did watch SB 45 on YouTube the other night, very eye opening .
Smokey (20-Mar) : Watching Spring Training Baseball, Nationals vs Yankees, very interesting .
Zero2Cool (19-Mar) : B1G making some noise in that bracket
Zero2Cool (19-Mar) : The more join, the more talk, the better. including John
Zero2Cool (19-Mar) : no forum should need one person, we have others, speak up!
gbguy20 (19-Mar) : slow forum needs more uffda
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2016 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 11 @ 12:00 PM
at Jaguars
Sunday, Sep 18 @ 7:30 PM
at Vikings
Sunday, Sep 25 @ 12:00 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Oct 2 @ 12:00 AM
BYE
Sunday, Oct 9 @ 7:30 PM
GIANTS
Sunday, Oct 16 @ 3:25 PM
COWBOYS
Thursday, Oct 20 @ 7:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Oct 30 @ 3:25 PM
at Falcons
Sunday, Nov 6 @ 3:25 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Nov 13 @ 12:00 PM
at Titans
Sunday, Nov 20 @ 7:30 PM
at Redskins
Monday, Nov 28 @ 7:30 PM
at Eagles
Sunday, Dec 4 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Dec 11 @ 3:25 PM
SEAHAWKS
Sunday, Dec 18 @ 12:00 PM
at Bears
Saturday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Jan 1 @ 7:30 PM
at Lions
Think About It
Think About It
Recent Topics
1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

3h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Smokey

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

10h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

10h / Fantasy Sports Talk / Smokey

13h / Green Bay Packers Talk / DoddPower

20h / Green Bay Packers Talk / RainX

21h / Around The NFL / Zero2Cool

26-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

26-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

25-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

23-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackFanWithTwins

23-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

23-Mar / Announcements / Zero2Cool

23-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

Headlines