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Offline MintBaconDrivel  
#1 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 6:57:06 AM(UTC)

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ProFootballTalk said:
The Packers and Aaron Rodgers are a couple million dollars a year apart as they continue discussing a new contract that would keep him in Green Bay into his mid-30s. Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reports that the two sides are roughly $2 million a year apart. That might sound like a lot, but when

Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reports that the two sides are roughly $2 million a year apart. That might sound like a lot, but when we’re talking about adding another four years and somewhere around $100 million in new money to Rodgers’ deal, a $2 million a year difference is something that the sides can work through.

The Packers would need to go a little beyond $100 million in new money over four additional years if they’re going to pay Rodgers more over the next six seasons than the $120 million deal Joe Flacco signed. Rapoport reports that the Packers are currently offering more than $21 million a year, and that Rodgers will end up with a better deal than Flacco got.

Flacco, of course, got his great deal in large part because he bet on himself, turned the Ravens down last year and proved himself worthy of more money by winning the Super Bowl MVP award. If the Packers don’t add another $2 million a year to their offer, Rodgers may try to do the same.
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#2 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 10:51:08 AM(UTC)

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I'll be very disappointed if the duration is that short. I want to see a "to the end of his career" contract similar to what Favre got - 10 years or so. That same $25 million a year is about right, but it would be a cap killer if the duration is just 4 years, even in the form of an extension. Make it ten years and we have the peace of mind to not need to go through the process again while he is in his prime, and with a ten year deal, the cap hit can be very manageable for the first few years. I'm sure Thompson and Ball know all that, but the media types reporting about it, maybe not so much.
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Incentives based on number of first downs and TIME OF POSSESSION.
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#4 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 12:02:12 PM(UTC)

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Bye bye cap room.

Nice knowin' ya.
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#5 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 2:14:37 PM(UTC)

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nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Incentives based on number of first downs and TIME OF POSSESSION.


I like that time of possession thing.
Forty two second drives don't thrill me even if it's for a TD.
That just puts a tired defense back on the field without much rest.

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#6 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 2:16:30 PM(UTC)

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Bye bye cap room.

Nice knowin' ya.


Rodgers could get $250 million or so for 10 years, and the cap hit would be $10 million or less the first year and still manageable for 3-5 years after that. By then, either the cap is a lot higher or he restructures for the good of the team and some incentive to himself or, heaven forbid, he has faded or gotten injured, and gets cut. Cap issues are usually overrated and solveable.

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#7 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 3:43:42 PM(UTC)

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texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
Rodgers could get $250 million or so for 10 years, and the cap hit would be $10 million or less the first year and still manageable for 3-5 years after that. By then, either the cap is a lot higher or he restructures for the good of the team and some incentive to himself or, heaven forbid, he has faded or gotten injured, and gets cut. Cap issues are usually overrated and solveable.



What COULD happen and what actually WILL happen are completely different things. I get what you're saying, but just because a scenario like that could happen, doesn't mean it's going to, at all. We shall see.
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#8 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 4:00:37 PM(UTC)

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We could trade him.

Can the Green Bay Packers afford to have the highest paid player in the NFL?

I watched "moneyball" for the 4th time last night.

I wonder what we could get for him?

It's gonna be the big number, why wouldn't it?

I cannot help but reflecting upon Dhazer bitchin' about his previous contract.

Many posted that he might sign for a "discount", or a "team friendly" contract...

How quaint! lol

Those were the good times! Our "window", imo----

You might consider forgetting many of the names of players you like on this team if we do this deal, which we will do, imo.

Maybe we should drop a tier at the position...
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#9 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 5:04:38 PM(UTC)

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dfosterf said: Go to Quoted Post
We could trade him.

Can the Green Bay Packers afford to have the highest paid player in the NFL?

I watched "moneyball" for the 4th time last night.

I wonder what we could get for him?

It's gonna be the big number, why wouldn't it?

I cannot help but reflecting upon Dhazer bitchin' about his previous contract.

Many posted that he might sign for a "discount", or a "team friendly" contract...

How quaint! lol

Those were the good times! Our "window", imo----

You might consider forgetting many of the names of players you like on this team if we do this deal, which we will do, imo.

Maybe we should drop a tier at the position...


I'm with you on a lot of things, Gunny, but not this. No way in hell! It is absolutely unthinkable to trade Rodgers for any price.

Dodd, I think it's a given that Thompson is gonna work out a deal that keeps Rodgers and doesn't ruin the cap situation. In a couple different threads, I posted examples of how that could be done. The key is a large bonus and a very long term - ten years or so. Doing the numbers leads only to that conclusion IMO. "Team friendly" only works when it is good for the player too, you got that right, but what I'm talking about certainly is.
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#10 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 5:11:56 PM(UTC)

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If we traded away Aaron Rodgers, I'd go postal. I'm messin' with old posts, and old posters.

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#11 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 5:18:01 PM(UTC)

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If we traded away Aaron Rodgers, I'd go postal. I'm messin' with old posts, and old posters.



Good - My Faith is restored hahaha.

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I like that time of possession thing.
Forty two second drives don't thrill me even if it's for a TD.
That just puts a tired defense back on the field without much rest.



Well GB was 6th in the league in passing first downs despite being 16th in attempts. Sure scoring really quickly can possible be a negative for the defense but that isn't the main problem on GBs defense. The main problem is the defense isn't very good at stopping teams on 3rd downs or preventing 1st downs in general. They tend to tighten up in the red zone but you can't just blame the offense for why the defense cannot get themselves off the field.

GB runs one of the most efficient offenses in the league. They convert 3rd downs well, they don't have to punt that often, they don't turn the ball over. All of these things greatly outweigh the negatives of a quick scoring drive every now and then. If the defense wants to rest they need to get their own asses off the field every once in a while instead of giving up 5-6 minute FG drives.
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#13 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 7:09:03 PM(UTC)

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When - not if - the Packers reach agreement with QB Aaron Rodgers on a record-setting contract extension, they will have some flexibility in managing the impact it has on their salary cap.
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, April 2, 2013 5:41:03 AM(UTC)

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Good Article - it says virtually the same as what I have been saying all along hahaha. Longer is better. They are saying 6 instead of 4. I say 10 instead of either 6 or 4. It also says the Ravens and Saints are counting on big cap increases in the future - the Flacco and Brees contracts are very similar to the example I wrote up about Rodgers in structure. JSOnline says they are between 23 and 25 million per year. Just make it an average of 24 million and get the job done. We actually could be better off cap-wise if the Rodgers and Matthews deals go throw, as instead of the well known $18 million figure under now, there is actually about $32 million to work with including what those two will count this year based on current contracts. This is NOT the mess some make it out to be.

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