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Offline Zero2Cool  
#31 Posted : Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:09:57 AM(UTC)
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Let yourself get manipulated by his blatant lie. I already explained in detail his motivation for saying he would have given the Packers a hometown discount, etc. If you want to believe him, that's your loss and I appreciate your gullibility. (not an insult, it just means you're trusting, which is a good thing). If you followed the whole thing from the start, you'd understand, but you're just reading articles in hindsight. Again, believe as you wish, as that is your right. I'm done trying to help you understand.

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Offline play2win  
#32 Posted : Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:43:08 AM(UTC)
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Wow. I did follow the whole thing from the start. This has nothing to do with gullibility. You cannot provide anything to support your position, because it didn't happen.

neener neeener...Neener, Neener
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#33 Posted : Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:53:12 AM(UTC)
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Ugh ... I have provided it, several times. And clearly, you didn't follow it from the start, and that's okay. You have your opinion and that's awesome you share it with us. I like that.

I believe we landed on the moon, but I can't provide anything to support my position so I guess that probably is false?



I do think free agency has it's place on helping complete a team, just not building a team. I don't know if I worded that intelligently or not. I think you build your core via draft and develop and when you recognize a hole in your team, if you have a drafted player to fill it, great, if not, you find a free agent to do so ... if one can be found. The only player that I can recall me saying "dammit Ted, overpay a little to get him" was Chris Canty when they just switched from 4 - 3 to 3 - 4.

I don't think the Packers are one player away and I haven't seen that player in Free Agency. I do find myself intrigued by Eric Winston, the RT. I guess I am kinda nervous about Derek Sherrod and Bryan Bulaga coming back 100%. I'd rather have the RT solidified with Winston and bank on one of them two holding down LT, with Marshall Newhouse as backup. I would say this line of my thinking is probably a little bit "Madden" ish, lol.

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#34 Posted : Tuesday, April 9, 2013 11:12:28 AM(UTC)
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Well I did a search and this was all I could find:

"I think we need to shut the fuck up about replacing Cullen Jenkins already. MOVE ON! He has.

The Packers need to find pass rush threat opposite Clay Matthews III, be it a DE or OLB. That's what the Packers need! " - Z2C

I do agree with your take on FA. Completely. FA does have its place. I just wish Ted would find it again.

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#35 Posted : Tuesday, April 9, 2013 11:32:08 AM(UTC)
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Whew! I thought the search was broken, but you just chose the least relevant comment of mine. Which is difficult, because, trust me, I have a lot of irrelevant comments! haha


Anyhow, this is reminding me of my ex who always had to have the last word, so there you go, you have it. Quit roping me into it, damn you.


I'll try once more to get the discussion back on to free agency ... I think the Packers approach it wisely and I'm glad they have a general manager who doesn't foolishly draft draft picks away and sign free agents to big contracts that strap the Packers hands when their own core players need signed.




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#36 Posted : Tuesday, April 9, 2013 11:53:38 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post


And, this risk is somehow less than a time tested, top performing FA? Is it?



At about 1/3 of the cost... Hell yeah it's less risk.
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#37 Posted : Tuesday, April 9, 2013 12:48:33 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
Anyhow, this is reminding me of my ex who always had to have the last word, so there you go, you have it. Quit roping me into it, damn you.


Did you have a habit of bringing up old arguments a year after the fact? :P
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#38 Posted : Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:00:48 PM(UTC)
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Did you have a habit of bringing up old arguments a year after the fact? :P


This doesn't even make sense. I didn't bring it up, play2win did.

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#39 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 5:14:15 AM(UTC)
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At about 1/3 of the cost... Hell yeah it's less risk.


From a performance standpoint? We're not in this to win the Lowest Dead Money On the Cap Trophy...
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#40 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 5:26:56 AM(UTC)
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From a performance standpoint? We're not in this to win the Lowest Dead Money On the Cap Trophy...


With some of the signings ... I think at times they are. Young and Cheap, just like how I like my... nevermind, different topic.

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Offline wpr  
#41 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 5:27:48 AM(UTC)
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Over the course of the years there have been others.. Julius Peppers comes to mind.. has that put a ring on the Bears fingers? Nnamdi Asomugha was supposed to be a game changer.. in less that a couple years he is a budget value player.

The Packers do dip into the Free Agent market.. last season for example they signed Jeff Saturday to fill a hole.. at a market salary. It didn't work out.. they pursued the center from the Texans, were in it till he decided to return there. Cedric Benson was another player.. neither really worked out they way we hoped..

We are only a month into new league year, we have two or three high dollar contracts in play yet, the draft to play out and a free agent market that still have a abundance of talent available.

I get the angst, especially with the track record overall being less than what fans want, but patience. The grocery cart still has a plenty of room to add players.. unfortunately the Packers are still working on the budget left after locking up Matthews and Rodgers.. maybe Raji as well.


Pack I really do respect your opinion but i will say that these two signings were vintage Uncle teddy. Over the hill, injury prone and zero risk players. They were not quality FAs that will a specific hole on the team. Plenty of people inside the football world knew Saturday was done. GB signed him because there were no other options out there. At least no one they wanted to spend money on. They blew it big time on that one. Ceddy on the other hand only played in 16 games once in his career. He played in 15 only 2 other years. He did have over 1000 yards the prior 3 years but those numbers were decreasing. His fumbles were up. There were indicators that he could be an issue.

I am not saying I was totally against either signing as I trusted Ted to do his due diligence and find quality players. He did not. He bargain shopped like he likes to do and as often happens when you rummage through the bargain bin, he and we got bit in the butt.
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