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Offline MintBaconDrivel  
#1 Posted : Sunday, April 21, 2013 11:05:20 AM(UTC)

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When the Green Bay Packers hired Ted Thompson as general manager in 2005, he brought a vision with him cultivated from time spent as a member of Ron Wolf's front office in the 1990s.
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#2 Posted : Sunday, April 21, 2013 11:45:24 AM(UTC)

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I was just thinking as I read that article: What would Thompson's career have been like if he hadn't been fortunate to have Aaron Rodgers fall to him and smart enough to snag him? What would Wolfe's career have been like if he hadn't traded to get Brett Favre?

Arguably pretty mediocre in both cases IMO.
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I was just thinking as I read that article: What would Thompson's career have been like if he hadn't been fortunate to have Aaron Rodgers fall to him and smart enough to snag him? What would Wolfe's career have been like if he hadn't traded to get Brett Favre?

Arguably pretty mediocre in both cases IMO.


Both guys had solid records all around, but these moves aren't coincidental. Anyway taking Aaron there was a no brainer.
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texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
I was just thinking as I read that article: What would Thompson's career have been like if he hadn't been fortunate to have Aaron Rodgers fall to him and smart enough to snag him? What would Wolfe's career have been like if he hadn't traded to get Brett Favre?

Arguably pretty mediocre in both cases IMO.



True... but but that's what if something bad happen... you could also do what if something good happened.


What if DT Justin Harrell and WR Terrence Murphy didn't get career ending injuries...

Yes Harrell had a history of injuries but he kept coming back from them better and better until his back injury that he got with the Packers. Would of Harrell put the DL over the top? He played great in college and the OLs couldn't stop him.

Murphy was very raw and had a lot to learn but in his short time he flash more raw potential than Greg Jennings and could of turned into Thompson best WR. Jennings came in ready to go where Murphy had a lot to learn still but he probably would of with Driver, who's with coaches has done a good job of coaching up these young guys.
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#5 Posted : Sunday, April 21, 2013 1:53:59 PM(UTC)

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Yeah, playing the "what if" game is silly, imo. It can be interesting to think about for a moment, I guess, but overall pointless.
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I view drafting Rodgers as a gift from twenty or so other teams, Minnesota twice bitten. But that draft was the beginning of the rift between Saint Brett and the TT/MM regime. I really don't understand the arrogance of Favre on this issue because he was the one threatening retirement every year and like good managers, TT/MM protected the franchise.

Although, at the time of the Rodgers pick, the Packers were a perennial playoff team, and if memory serves - a defensive lineman or linebacker would have been a need.

But back on topic - trading down and gathering picks is how Uncle Ted restocked the barren shelves that the Sherminator emptied. I'm not going to argue with how the Packers got their 4th Vince Lombardi trophy. I wouldn't be surprised if we traded back into the early second round and get an extra third for our first round pick. Drafting in the late 20's every year is a minor problem for a capable GM. We all should probably just say thanks for keeping us there.
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#7 Posted : Sunday, April 21, 2013 3:21:07 PM(UTC)

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the first few years Uncle Ted traded down and picked up extra picks. most of which did not make the team for very long.
in the past few years he moved up for quality players that were NFL worthy.

April 23-24, 2005; Drafted alternately 24th-26th-25th

1. AARON RODGERS, QB, California, 24
2a. NICK COLLINS, S/CB, Bethune-Cookman, 51
(from New Orleans Saints in Mike McKenzie trade)
• 2b. TERRENCE MURPHY, WR/KR, Texas A&M, 58
• 3. (to Carolina Panthers in draft-day trade), 89
• 4a. MARVIEL UNDERWOOD, S, San Diego State, 115
(from Carolina Panthers in draft-day trade)
• 4b. BRADY POPPINGA, LB, Brigham Young, 125
• 4. (to Philadelphia Eagles in draft-day trade), 126
(originally obtained from Carolina in draft-day trade)
• 5a. JUNIUS COSTON, C, North Carolina A&T, 143
(from Oakland Raiders for Marques Anderson)
• 5. (to Kansas City Chiefs for R-Kal Truluck), 152
• 5b. MIKE HAWKINS, CB, Oklahoma, 167
(from Philadelphia Eagles in draft-day trade)
• 6. (to New England Patriots in draft-day trade), 175
(originally obtained from Philadelphia in draft-day trade)
• 6a. MICHAEL MONTGOMERY, DE, Texas A&M, 180
(from Oakland Raiders for Marques Anderson)
• 6b. CRAIG BRAGG, WR, UCLA, 195
(from New England Patriots in draft-day trade)
• 6. (to Kansas City Chiefs for R-Kal Truluck), 199
• 7. (to Kansas City Chiefs in 2003 Derek Combs trade), 238
• 7a. KURT CAMPBELL, LB, Albany, 245
(from Philadelphia Eagles in draft-day trade)
•7b. WILLIAM WHITTICKER, G, Michigan State, 246
(from New England Patriots in draft-day trade)

April 29-30, 2006; Drafted alternately 5th-4th-3rd-7th-6th

•1. A.J. HAWK, LB, Ohio State, 5
• 2. (to New England Patriots in draft-day trade), 36
•2. (from Denver for WR Javon Walker in draft-day trade; choice subsequently traded to Atlanta Falcons), 37
•2a. DARYN COLLEDGE, T/G, Boise State, 47
(from Atlanta Falcons in draft-day trade)
•2b. GREG JENNINGS, WR, Western Michigan, 52
(from New England Patriots in draft-day trade)
•3a. ABDUL HODGE, LB, Iowa, 67
•3b. JASON SPITZ, G/C, Louisville, 75
(from New England Patriots in draft-day trade)
• 3. (to St. Louis Rams in draft-day trade), 93
(pick originally obtained from Atlanta Falcons in draft-day trade)
• 4a. CORY RODGERS, WR/KR, Texas Christian, 104
• 4. (to Philadelphia Eagles in draft-day trade), 109
(pick originally obtained from St. Louis Rams)
•4b. WILL BLACKMON, CB, Boston College, 115
(from Philadelphia Eagles in draft-day trade)
• 5. (to Atlanta Falcons in draft-day trade), 139
• 5a. INGLE MARTIN, QB, Furman, 148
(from Atlanta Falcons in draft-day trade)
•5b. TONY MOLL, T, Nevada, 165
(free agency compensatory pick)
•6. (to New Orleans in 2004 Mike McKenzie trade), 174
•6a. JOHNNY JOLLY, DT, Texas A&M, 183
(from St. Louis Rams in draft-day trade)
•6b. TYRONE CULVER, S, Fresno State, 185
(from Philadelphia Eagles in draft-day trade)
•7. (to Miami Dolphins in 2004 Brad Bedell trade), 212
•7. DAVE TOLLEFSON, DE, Northwest Missouri State, 253
(free agency compensatory pick)

April 28-29, 2007; Drafted alternately 16th-15th-14th-13th-20th-19th-18th

1. JUSTIN HARRELL, DT, Tennessee, 16
•2. (to N.Y. Jets in draft-day trade), 47
•2. BRANDON JACKSON, RB, Nebraska, 63
(from N.Y. Jets in draft-day trade)
•3a. JAMES JONES, WR, San Jose State, 78
• 3b. AARON ROUSE, SS, Virginia Tech, 89
(from N.Y. Jets in draft-day trade)
•4. (to Pittsburgh in draft-day trade), 112
•4. ALLEN BARBRE, T/G, Missouri Southern St, 119
(from Pittsburgh Steelers in draft-day trade)
• 5. DAVID CLOWNEY, WR, Virginia Tech, 157
• 6a. KOREY HALL, FB, Boise State, 191
(from N.Y. Jets in draft-day trade)
•6b. DESMOND BISHOP, LB, California, 192
(from Pittsburgh Steelers in draft-day trade)
•6c. MASON CROSBY, K, Colorado, 193
• 7a. DeSHAWN WYNN, RB, Florida, 228
• 7. (to N.Y. Jets in draft-day trade), 235
(originally obtained in Steve Morley trade)
•7. CLARK HARRIS, TE, Rutgers, 243
(free agency compensatory pick)

April 26-27, 2008; Drafted alternately 30th-29th-28th

•1. (to N.Y. Jets in draft-day trade), 30
2a. JORDY NELSON, WR, Kansas State, 36
(from N.Y. Jets in draft-day trade)
•2b. BRIAN BROHM, QB, Louisville, 56
(from Cleveland Browns for Corey Williams)
•2c. PAT LEE, CB, Auburn, 60
•3. JERMICHAEL FINLEY, TE, Texas, 91
• 4a. JEREMY THOMPSON, DE, Wake Forest, 102
(from N.Y. Jets in draft-day trade)
• 4. (to N.Y. Jets in draft-day trade), 113
• 4. (to St. Louis Rams in draft-day trade), 128
• 4b. JOSH SITTON, G, Central Florida, 135
(free agency compensatory pick)
• 5. (to Minnesota Vikings in draft-day trade), 137
• 5. BRENO GIACOMINI, T, Louisville, 150
(from Minnesota Vikings in draft-day trade)
• 5. (to N.Y. Jets in draft-day trade), 162
• 6. (to N.Y. Giants for Ryan Grant), 194
• 7a. MATT FLYNN, QB, Louisiana State, 209
(from Minnesota Vikings in draft-day trade)
• 7b. BRETT SWAIN, WR, San Diego State, 217
(from St. Louis Rams in draft-day trade)
• 7. (to New Orleans Saints for 2009 sixth-round choice), 237

April 25-26, 2009; Drafted 9th

1a. B.J. RAJI, NT, Boston College, 9
1b. CLAY MATTHEWS, LB, Southern California, 26
(from New England Patriots in draft-day trade)
• 2. (to New England Patriots in draft-day trade), 41
• 3. (to New England Patriots in draft-day trade), 73
• 3. (to New England Patriots in draft-day trade), 83
(pick originally obtained from N.Y. Jets for Brett Favre)
4. T.J. LANG, G/T, Eastern Michigan, 109
• 5a. QUINN JOHNSON, FB, Louisiana State, 145
5b. JAMON MEREDITH, T, South Carolina, 162
(from New England Patriots in draft-day trade)
6a. JARIUS WYNN, DE, Georgia, 182
(from New Orleans Saints in 2008 draft-day trade)
6b. BRANDON UNDERWOOD, CB, Cincinnati, 187
7. BRAD JONES, LB, Colorado, 218

April 22-24, 2010; Drafted 23rd

1. BRYAN BULAGA, T, Iowa, 23
2. MIKE NEAL, DE, Purdue, 56
3. MORGAN BURNETT, S, Georgia Tech, 71
(from Philadelphia Eagles in draft-day trade)
• 3. (to Philadelphia Eagles in draft-day trade), 86
• 4. (to Philadelphia Eagles in draft-day trade), 122
5a. ANDREW QUARLESS, TE, Penn State, 154
5b. MARSHALL NEWHOUSE, T/G, Texas Christian, 169
(free agency compensatory pick)
6. JAMES STARKS, RB, Buffalo, 193
7. C.J. WILSON, DE, East Carolina, 230

April 28-30, 2011; Drafted 32nd

1. DEREK SHERROD, T, Mississippi State, 32
2. RANDALL COBB, WR, Kentucky, 64
3. ALEX GREEN, RB, Hawaii, 96
• 4. (to Denver Broncos in draft-day trade), 129
4. DAVON HOUSE, CB, New Mexico State, 131
(free agency compensatory pick)
5. D.J. WILLIAMS, TE, Arkansas, 141
(from Denver Broncos in draft-day trade)
• 5. (to San Francisco 49ers in draft-day trade), 163
• 6. (to Miami Dolphins in draft-day trade), 174
• 6a. CALEB SCHLAUDERAFF, G, Utah, 179
(from Miami Dolphins in draft-day trade)
6b. D.J. SMITH, LB, Appalachian State, 186
(from Denver Broncos in draft-day trade)
• 6c. RICKY ELMORE, LB, Arizona, 197
• 7. (to Denver Broncos in draft-day trade), 204
(pick originally obtained from Carolina Panthers)
7a. RYAN TAYLOR, TE, North Carolina, 218
(from Miami Dolphins in draft-day trade)
• 7. (To Miami Dolphins in draft-day trade), 231
7b. LAWRENCE GUY, DE, Arizona State, 233

April 26-28, 2012; Drafted 28th

1. NICK PERRY, LB, Southern California, 28
2a. JEREL WORTHY, DE, Michigan State, 51
(from Philadelphia Eagles in draft-day trade)
• 2. (to Philadelphia Eagles in draft-day trade), 59
2b. CASEY HAYWARD, CB, Vanderbilt, 62
(from New England Patriots in draft-day trade)
• 3. (to New England Patriots in draft-day trade), 90
• 4. (to Philadelphia Eagles in draft-day trade), 123
4a. MIKE DANIELS, DT, Iowa, 132
(free agency compensatory pick)
4b. JERRON McMILLIAN, S, Maine, 133
(free agency compensatory pick)
5. TERRELL MANNING, LB, North Carolina State, 163
(originally sent to New England Patriots in draft-day trade)
(reacquired through New England in draft-day trade)
• 6. (to New England Patriots in draft-day trade), 197
• 7. (to New England Patriots in draft-day trade), 224
(pick originally obtained as conditional choice from N.Y. Jets for G Caleb Schlauderaff)
• 7. (to New England Patriots in draft-day trade), 235
• 7a. ANDREW DATKO, T, Florida State, 241
(free agency compensatory pick)
• 7b. B.J. COLEMAN, QB, Tennessee-Chattanooga, 243
(free agency compensatory pick)

typically loading up with picks from the 5th round and down doesn't do a team like GB a whole lot of good. The players tend to be developmental players most of the time. They may stick with teams with lesser quality players but often doesn't have much impact in GB.
Offline yooperfan  
#8 Posted : Sunday, April 21, 2013 3:39:16 PM(UTC)

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Whether Ted moves up or down, I'm hoping he bats about .875 in this years draft.
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