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Offline Zero2Cool  
#26 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 6:25:45 PM(UTC)
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Eddie Lacy talking about how he'd fit into the Packers offense - link.
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#27 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 6:39:20 PM(UTC)
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Love this pick! Hell, I wanted him in the first...

Teddy knew what he was doing when he traded down. He knew either Lacy or Ball would be there at 61. My guess is that we had both of them graded out about the same.
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#28 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 6:45:47 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
Eddie Lacy ... bad selection. He had HUGE holes with Alabama. He won't have that in Green Bay. I'd rather have seen a Safety selected. Someone who could contribute to the team.


We don't need safeties.
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#29 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 6:48:29 PM(UTC)
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"Yet at his pre-draft workout April 11, Lacy looked like those fatigued linebackers running on empty. At one point, the 5-foot-11, 231-pound back needed to step outside the Hank Crisp Indoor Facility to catch his breath. The workout raised immediate red flags. This was, essentially, Lacy's job interview. And he looked tired, out of shape."


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Offline wpr  
#30 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 7:29:26 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
"Yet at his pre-draft workout April 11, Lacy looked like those fatigued linebackers running on empty. At one point, the 5-foot-11, 231-pound back needed to step outside the Hank Crisp Indoor Facility to catch his breath. The workout raised immediate red flags. This was, essentially, Lacy's job interview. And he looked tired, out of shape."




yeah I am a little concerned too. But some experts have him rated pretty high.
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Offline yooperfan  
#31 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 7:37:15 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
yeah I am a little concerned too. But some experts have him rated pretty high.


Hey, he doesn't have to run far to pass block.
And they say he is good at that.

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#32 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 7:40:21 PM(UTC)
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I hope I am wrong.. but I call this a bust today. Injury prone.. don't like the pick. Blahhhhhh!
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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Offline yooperfan  
#33 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 7:44:30 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Pack93z Go to Quoted Post
I hope I am wrong.. but I call this a bust today. Injury prone.. don't like the pick. Blahhhhhh!


Oh shit!
I always count on you with your immense football knowledge to pick me up when I get pessimistic.

Offline steveishere  
#34 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 7:50:15 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Pack93z Go to Quoted Post
I hope I am wrong.. but I call this a bust today. Injury prone.. don't like the pick. Blahhhhhh!


Did he ever even miss any games?
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#35 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 7:51:34 PM(UTC)
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I would have hated taking Lacy in the first round (Just don't think RBs are that valuable in today's NFL), but getting a 23ish rated player late in the second after trading down I think is excellent value.

Hope he gives us a little more consistent running game. Without changing the blockers quite a bit the running game is never going to be that amazing but hopefully getting a little more consistent and being able to get some 3rd and shorts would be nice.
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#36 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 7:55:00 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: yooperfan Go to Quoted Post
Oh shit!
I always count on you with your immense football knowledge to pick me up when I get pessimistic.



Sorry after a 16 hour day... this isn't the kid I wanted to see drafted and having to listen to it to boot.. at least not in the second. Especially with Ball there if they would have stayed put. For the "bounty" he got to trade down.. just not thrilled.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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#37 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 8:03:43 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
Did he ever even miss any games?


Knee concerns, foot, toes, ankles and hamstrings.. not a great combination for a back that ran behind an NFL line and didn't have to carry the load at Bama.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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#38 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 8:29:22 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
"Yet at his pre-draft workout April 11, Lacy looked like those fatigued linebackers running on empty. At one point, the 5-foot-11, 231-pound back needed to step outside the Hank Crisp Indoor Facility to catch his breath. The workout raised immediate red flags. This was, essentially, Lacy's job interview. And he looked tired, out of shape."




Dude was coming off a hammy' only had a couple weeks to get his wind back.
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Offline porky88  
#39 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 9:26:57 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Pack93z Go to Quoted Post
Sorry after a 16 hour day... this isn't the kid I wanted to see drafted and having to listen to it to boot.. at least not in the second. Especially with Ball there if they would have stayed put. For the "bounty" he got to trade down.. just not thrilled.

I liked him a little more than I did Ball. I do share some of your concerns, though.

There were 26 players in this draft better than Lacy, including Le'Veon Bell and Johnathan Franklin. The latter is still available. However, I do not believe there are 61 players better than Lacy. That’s why I’m not sour on this pick.

My comparison for Lacy is New England's Stevan Ridley. I think they have similar styles. Both are decisive with competent speed. They lack the extra gear, but they're capable of churning yardage out, while also converting the tough third and short situations. Of note, Lacy does not share Ridley’s ball security issues.

I do worry about him being the product of Alabama’s system, though I’m expecting a breakout year from Mark Ingram in New Orleans. Nevertheless, Lacy’s good enough to take pressure off Rodgers, while doing some of what I’ve already stated. That’s definitely progress.

Offline Yerko  
#40 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 10:53:56 PM(UTC)
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While Lacy did have "injuries" they weren't injuries that kept him off the field. They were nagging injuries and he played through them all, certainly not hindering his performance. As for being out of shape at his workout, he was only a few weeks off the hamstring injury.

I applaud the Packers for this pick, especially after trading down and grabbing another pick in the process. I don't get the love for Montee Ball (other than he was a Badger). While these injuries that never took Lacy off the field are pointed out, I'll point out that the wear and tear on Ball is above and beyond Lacy. Ball's 924 career carries to Lacy's 355 career carries. Ball's 5,140 yards to Lacy's 2,402 yards.

Montee has had a concussion or two, right?

I always see talk about the shelf life of runningbacks and from college stats alone, I'd say Ball's shelf life is going to be shorter. With the Packers passing offense and teams using a two-back system, Lacy will do just fine with DuJuan Harris taking some snaps.

I guess my next question is at #61, what other options were there and worth that value? There are still a few quality offensive linemen, defensive linemen and OLB (and even WR). Maybe there was a safety, but was that safety going to be above and beyond what the Packers have?

Lacy is a gigantic steal at this spot and while he is used to running through big holes from Alabama's offensive line, so was Trent Richardson (a more recent Alabama RB). Cleveland's o-line has two good lineman (they are nothing special) like the Packers and Richardson did pretty well there.

We finally have a starting runningback.
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#41 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 11:33:52 PM(UTC)
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I'll be honest, I need to do my homework on Lacy. I never thought Thompson would take ANY running back at #26 in round one. And I certainly didn't figure he'd drop to the bottom of round two. So I never really looked up Lacy.

All I've known about him is Reader's Digest quality: He's a bruiser, he's had some durability issues and he was considered by many analysts the top running back in the draft.

I'm encouraged by the fact (as pointed out by Yerko) that his overall wear-and-tear is pretty meek. I don't see the Packers' RB situation as dire. I see it as below average. So adding a solid talent -- and a bruiser at that -- makes me feel like we've taken a Cedric Benson that plenty were excited about, and made him 22 years old.

And we got him at the ass end of round two. Not bad.
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#42 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:53:16 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: evad04 Go to Quoted Post
I'll be honest, I need to do my homework on Lacy. I never thought Thompson would take ANY running back at #26 in round one. And I certainly didn't figure he'd drop to the bottom of round two. So I never really looked up Lacy.

All I've known about him is Reader's Digest quality: He's a bruiser, he's had some durability issues and he was considered by many analysts the top running back in the draft.

I'm encouraged by the fact (as pointed out by Yerko) that his overall wear-and-tear is pretty meek. I don't see the Packers' RB situation as dire. I see it as below average. So adding a solid talent -- and a bruiser at that -- makes me feel like we've taken a Cedric Benson that plenty were excited about, and made him 22 years old.

And we got him at the ass end of round two. Not bad.


I've heard him compared to Micheal Bush. Dunno about that. I think of him more like Darren McFadden, who I wanted the Packers to draft back in the day.

Lacy ran a 4.59 or something like that, but remember. He was just coming off a hammy and didn't have time to get in shape. People also said Ryan Grant didn't have enough speed to take it to the house. They also said Greg Jennings couldn't get deep.
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#43 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 2:27:07 AM(UTC)
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Don't know why people are down on this pick. He was projected to go to in the first round, some as high as 15,16,17. Most mocks had us even taking him at 26... Why not take a chance on these so called injure problems? I say this is a steal. Don't know what teams were thinking. He's more than just a running back running behind a good offensive line. Look at that Notre dame game he was making defenders pay in the 2nd level. He was spinning off them, breaking tackles man this guy gets me excited. There weren't better players than him on the board when we drafted him trust me. He reminds me of Micheal Turner actually..
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#44 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 3:18:23 AM(UTC)
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I was hoping The Packers wouold take another D-lineman in the 2nd, but when New England snatched up Jonathan Hankins a few picks before, I think Lacey became the BPA.

Nobody knows how these things will work out, but as has been stated many times, getting Lacey at the end of rnd 2, is good value.

The way Ted traded down and stockpiled for day 3 tells me the scouts have done their job and there are players Ted covets.

I think it will be tough to trade up on day 2, unless there is a team at the top of rnd 3 that wants more picks, maybe The Browns? or Jaguars?, if Ted does swing a trade up it will be with a team who is trying to rebuild, maybe even The Jets?

I can't see Ted drafting 10 players today, but if it happens, there is room for about 8-9 on the 53 man roster right now, the rest can fight for a PS spot.
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#45 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 4:12:10 AM(UTC)
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I just want to point out that Lacy excelled when Alabama went to a ZONE BLOCKING SCHEME.
I don't think that's been mentioned. I love this pick, and I usually hate drafting RB's when we have such a shit-box line.

Isn't there a guard /center from Alabama still available? Let's go get him (forgot name, sorry-- anyone know?)

Those trades with SF suck, imo- btw.

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#46 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 4:18:38 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Yerko Go to Quoted Post
While Lacy did have "injuries" they weren't injuries that kept him off the field. They were nagging injuries and he played through them all, certainly not hindering his performance. As for being out of shape at his workout, he was only a few weeks off the hamstring injury.

I applaud the Packers for this pick, especially after trading down and grabbing another pick in the process. I don't get the love for Montee Ball (other than he was a Badger). While these injuries that never took Lacy off the field are pointed out, I'll point out that the wear and tear on Ball is above and beyond Lacy. Ball's 924 career carries to Lacy's 355 career carries. Ball's 5,140 yards to Lacy's 2,402 yards.

Montee has had a concussion or two, right?

I always see talk about the shelf life of runningbacks and from college stats alone, I'd say Ball's shelf life is going to be shorter. With the Packers passing offense and teams using a two-back system, Lacy will do just fine with DuJuan Harris taking some snaps.

I guess my next question is at #61, what other options were there and worth that value? There are still a few quality offensive linemen, defensive linemen and OLB (and even WR). Maybe there was a safety, but was that safety going to be above and beyond what the Packers have?

Lacy is a gigantic steal at this spot and while he is used to running through big holes from Alabama's offensive line, so was Trent Richardson (a more recent Alabama RB). Cleveland's o-line has two good lineman (they are nothing special) like the Packers and Richardson did pretty well there.

We finally have a starting runningback.


WOW!!! I could not have said it any better. Ball, to me, seemed more hype than anything. Good back, but I never thought of him as a punishing back.

We stole a punishing, big, effective starting RB. I love the pick.
Lacy is that thumper back we needed. I can't believe we got him, with the trade down.
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#47 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 4:21:55 AM(UTC)
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Barrett Jones is the guy I was thinking about.

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#48 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 4:25:20 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dfosterf Go to Quoted Post
I just want to point out that Lacy excelled when Alabama went to a ZONE BLOCKING SCHEME.
I don't think that's been mentioned. I love this pick, and I usually hate drafting RB's when we have such a shit-box line.

Isn't there a guard /center from Alabama still available? Let's go get him (forgot name, sorry-- anyone know?)

Those trades with SF suck, imo- btw.



Barrett Jones a G/C. The guy has long arms and brings size to that position. He is a great pass protector.. which we need. Barrett could back up Lang and EDS maybe even push for a job if we take him. Can't go wrong with taking him. Then we need to start looking at a DB. Then a backup Pass rusher and this draft will be a success.

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#49 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 4:30:56 AM(UTC)
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Lacy reminds me of Ray Rice. Awesome pick.
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#50 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 7:47:36 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
WOW!!! I could not have said it any better. Ball, to me, seemed more hype than anything. Good back, but I never thought of him as a punishing back.

We stole a punishing, big, effective starting RB. I love the pick.
Lacy is that thumper back we needed. I can't believe we got him, with the trade down.


Agree ... did we just get the best back in the draft? ...

cant remember the last time we did that ... really like this guy too; nice lower body strength; and runs forward like starks did in our SB run. I'd really like to have the option to run instead of using it just to 'keep' defenses honest.

seriously; one of our biggest needs is a decent back ... in case you guys forgot last year what a cluster ... that was ... I mean if benson would of been ok then hey we might of had a run game ... btw we keeping cedrick?

... back to lacy (liked this guys lateral moves; not like one of our backs that we've had in our recent past).
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