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Offline TheKanataThrilla  
#16 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 5:39:12 AM(UTC)
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I have two concerns about Lacy. #1 is injury history. The boys are bigger and stronger in the NFL. #2 is he ran through massive holes created by one of (if not the) best O-lines in college football. Production may not translate.

That said him and Franklin are a huge upgrade to our current RB options. The fact both are great pass protectors makes their value even larger.
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#17 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 5:43:03 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla Go to Quoted Post
I have two concerns about Lacy. #1 is injury history. The boys are bigger and stronger in the NFL. #2 is he ran through massive holes created by one of (if not the) best O-lines in college football. Production may not translate.

That said him and Franklin are a huge upgrade to our current RB options. The fact both are great pass protectors makes their value even larger.


That, and he couldn't even go through his own Personal Pro Day workout without taking a break. How can you be that out of shape for your own PERSONAL PRO DAY? That'd be like ... no, I won't go there. It's bogus is what it is.

I hope to wrong. I just feel Johnathan Franklin will be the better running back. Franklin did more with less, and the Packers OL is that less.

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#18 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 5:53:38 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
Keeping Eddie LACY for 10 years would be worse than keeping Justin Harrell for the years he was kept. Hopefully the Packers don't cling to a poor pick for a decade. That'd be awful.


I was thinking of you when I gave him a year year run in GB. Weeeee!!
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Offline texaspackerbacker  
#19 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 8:13:21 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
I was thinking of you when I gave him a year year run in GB. Weeeee!!


hahahahaha "year year" there you go again!
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Offline Quid2Facis  
#20 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 5:10:45 PM(UTC)
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All I think is that Lacy has had injury problems throughout most of his college career, which has always gotten a lot of attention because Alabama relied heavily upon him after Ingram and then Richardson left. When Lacy was the #2 RB after Richardson he still ran for some 600+ yards.

When he was the #1 RB he more than doubled that and that was after the initial instance of the toe injury. The guy gets injured but keeps playing, there have been a lot of great NFL players that had that same demeanor.

As far as the Alabama Offensive line, analysts were not convinced of their invincibility at the beginning of the 2011 or 2012 seasons. It's a combination of both the line and the RBs that make Alabama what it is.

Lacy will play, and put the work in to succeed. He's already shown that otherwise he would have missed far more games in his college career than he actually did from all those "injuries".
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Offline macbob  
#21 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 5:35:14 PM(UTC)
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Unfortunately, I agree with Z2C on Lacy. I hope I'm wrong, but I've got a bad feeling about that pick for the reasons already articulated (injury prone, question on whether his running success was due to his own ability or his OL, his apparently lack-luster preparation for his own personal pro day). Hope Lacy takes offense at Florio's 'potential bust' comment...

http://profootballtalk.n...eview-green-bay-packers/

Florio for PFT wrote:
Where they hit: Franklin fits perfectly with the West Coast offense, and he could become a star in that system...

Where they missed: There’s a reason Lacy was available late in round two. From chronic injury problems to a concern that he lacks true passion for football, Lacy has potential bust written all over him. While they needed running backs, Franklin fits. Lacy may not.
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#22 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 5:38:46 PM(UTC)
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Let me try and warm some of you up to Lacy and I will admit I needed to come around on the pick but only a little.

In the four biggest games the Tide played last year which was LSU #5, Texas A&M in the only loss, Georgia in the SEC title game, and Notre Dame in the National Championship:

Lacy ran for 490+ yards with his lowest average per attempt at 5.9 yards against A&M.

He scored at least one TD in each of these games and was the SEC Championship Game MVP with 180 yards.

That was against Georgia who had umpteen defensive guys drafted. The Tide almost lost that game. Lacy pulled their fat out of the fryer. They don't win that game they don't play ND for the National Championship.

Not many guys even get to play in games like this let alone show up essentially every time and play that well. So yeah, I've kind of warmed up to the kid.





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Offline Pack93z  
#23 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 5:50:56 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: warhawk Go to Quoted Post
Let me try and warm some of you up to Lacy and I will admit I needed to come around on the pick but only a little.

In the four biggest games the Tide played last year which was LSU #5, Texas A&M in the only loss, Georgia in the SEC title game, and Notre Dame in the National Championship:

Lacy ran for 490+ yards with his lowest average per attempt at 5.9 yards against A&M.

He scored at least one TD in each of these games and was the SEC Championship Game MVP with 180 yards.

That was against Georgia who had umpteen defensive guys drafted. The Tide almost lost that game. Lacy pulled their fat out of the fryer. They don't win that game they don't play ND for the National Championship.

Not many guys even get to play in games like this let alone show up essentially every time and play that well. So yeah, I've kind of warmed up to the kid.



And here is the counter... Yeldon in those 4 games ran 67 times for 366 yards for a 5.5 yards per carry. So is it the backs or a dominate offensive line.. I can say because I watched both.. my opinion the line dominated against Georgia after wearing them down and crushed ND.

I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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#24 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 6:30:15 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla Go to Quoted Post
I have two concerns about Lacy. #1 is injury history. The boys are bigger and stronger in the NFL. #2 is he ran through massive holes created by one of (if not the) best O-lines in college football. Production may not translate.

That said him and Franklin are a huge upgrade to our current RB options. The fact both are great pass protectors makes their value even larger.


Huge injury history. Missed 1 game in 2 years.

So, its OK to roast Lacy for going soft in his Pro Day even though he was nursing a hammy? The same injury that Clay Matthews has fought through? He's a RB! His game is as much about speed as Matthews.

To me, Eddie Lacy was just being responsible. Smart.

"Strained hamstrings are unable to do their job as effectively, usually manifested as the need for a shorter stride length on the injured side. They are also prone to further, more serious injury. As a result, Lacy running on an injured hamstring would not only likely produce a slower 40 time, it could also do more damage to the muscle." http://m.bleacherreport....-lacys-injured-hamstring

Dude suffered ONE injury at Alabama, a foot injury in 2011 after rushing for 61 yds and a TD against Arkansas, sitting out the next game.

Played every game in 2012.

Huge injury history.
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Offline Zero2Cool  
#25 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 6:35:19 PM(UTC)
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I wanted to see how the other Alabama running backs did...thought I'd share the graphic for you all as well.
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#26 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 6:52:59 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
I wanted to see how the other Alabama running backs did...thought I'd share the graphic for you all as well.



When did Eddie Lacy piss in your Cornflakes?

Jesus Christ!

And... Johnathan Franklin had 282 ATT 1734 YDS and 13 TDs

Lacy had 4 more TDs, a better average per carry in 80 fewer ATT. So Bama ran a lot. They were good at it. Who cares?

Seems like a lot of nit picking to me.
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#27 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 7:28:38 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
I wanted to see how the other Alabama running backs did...thought I'd share the graphic for you all as well.


And that is what I mean but not being the bell cow in the other thread.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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#28 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 7:36:33 PM(UTC)
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Richardson has done pretty well in the pro game so far.

There are scouts who think Lacy is better than Richardson. We shall see.
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#29 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 7:41:40 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Pack93z Go to Quoted Post
And that is what I mean but not being the bell cow in the other thread.


Eh, Lacy may bust or he may not. I dont think he will. He is undoubtedly a talented player. At the position he was drafted he is well worth the risk, imo. No doubt about it. He's going to bring some toughness to the Packers running game and will be able to split the pressure with J. Franklin. Boom or bust, maybe, but im glad Ted Thompson took the risk at the position Lacy was drafted.
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#30 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 8:24:53 PM(UTC)
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hahahahaha "year year" there you go again!


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