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MintBaconDrivel  
#21 Posted : Tuesday, April 30, 2013 4:37:27 PM(UTC)
JSOnline said:
Alex Marvez of foxsports.com gave the Packers a 'C' grade for their offseason moves, including the NFL draft, in his report for the NFC North.
Yerko  
#22 Posted : Tuesday, April 30, 2013 4:47:17 PM(UTC)
Wonder what that changes to upon winning the Super Bowl next season.
User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#23 Posted : Tuesday, April 30, 2013 5:11:51 PM(UTC)
The Packers should get a B+ or A- just for what they DIDN'T DO before the draft. Upgrade that to an A+++ when the draft is factored in. Agreed about the Super Bowl thing.
Pack93z  
#24 Posted : Tuesday, April 30, 2013 5:34:40 PM(UTC)
This test hasn't been presented and passed time and time again under Ted's watch? I would like to see Marvez grade his assessment at the end of the season.

Quote:
Says Marvez: "(Ted) Thompson’s belief in developing his own talent and eschewing free agency will be put to the test in a division where Minnesota, Detroit and Chicago have made up ground during the offseason."
Yerko  
#25 Posted : Tuesday, April 30, 2013 10:50:43 PM(UTC)
Pack93z said: Go to Quoted Post
This test hasn't been presented and passed time and time again under Ted's watch? I would like to see Marvez grade his assessment at the end of the season.



I was confused by what he meant by that. The two best free agents signed by those teams were Greg Jennings to the Vikings and Martellus Bennett to the Bears. If that is what Ted Thompson has to put his draft and develop up against, I'd put a good chunk of money on him succeeding.

I know there were other free agent signings, but the next best I could think of aside from the two mentioned above is Jermon Bushrod to the Bears.
Gaycandybacon  
#26 Posted : Wednesday, May 1, 2013 8:15:12 AM(UTC)
Yerko said: Go to Quoted Post
I was confused by what he meant by that. The two best free agents signed by those teams were Greg Jennings to the Vikings and Martellus Bennett to the Bears. If that is what Ted Thompson has to put his draft and develop up against, I'd put a good chunk of money on him succeeding.

I know there were other free agent signings, but the next best I could think of aside from the two mentioned above is Jermon Bushrod to the Bears.


Reggie Bush to the Lions.

Only thing we are really missing is a S imo. If none flash in Mini camp all the way up to training camp we'll will shop for one.

I think the only thing the Division got away from us is Greg Jennings to the Vikings.

In my mind we won the offseason.... You know why? We Signed Aaron Rodgers to a new deal.
warhawk  
#27 Posted : Wednesday, May 1, 2013 2:04:57 PM(UTC)
I guess this guy has no clue as to how the Packers have managed to put a better team than any in the NFC North for years now.

The Vikes lost their go to WR and this is a position where they were not nearly as strong as we are. Yes, we lost Jennings but he was out a lot of games last year so it's not like we don't know what they can do without him. The Vikes were like the 29th ranked passing team so I would say they have WAY more to go in catching the Pack than taking Jennings away.

The Bears may have made a few moves to bolster the OL that was terrible but they have had to give up draft picks in the last few years that made it virtually impossible to have young players waiting in the wings to take over for those old D guys.

Plus the Bears depth sucks. I looked last year and they didn't have a single OL behind the starters on the depth chart that had even been drafted.

We just put two 4th round OL in for depth and development. Which team has a better chance to get better there?

I find it laughable that we go 5-1 when half our damn team ended up on IR and this guy thinks teams are catching us? Freaking Bears fan is what he is. Maybe Vikes. Nobody's a Lions fan so....
TwinkieGorilla  
#28 Posted : Wednesday, May 1, 2013 3:43:24 PM(UTC)
So somebody employed by Fox is mentally deficient?

*SHOCK*
dfosterf  
#29 Posted : Wednesday, May 1, 2013 4:56:00 PM(UTC)
Yerko said: Go to Quoted Post
I was confused by what he meant by that. The two best free agents signed by those teams were Greg Jennings to the Vikings and Martellus Bennett to the Bears. If that is what Ted Thompson has to put his draft and develop up against, I'd put a good chunk of money on him succeeding.

I know there were other free agent signings, but the next best I could think of aside from the two mentioned above is Jermon Bushrod to the Bears.


There should be no confusion. Ted relies upon the draft to infuse our talent, he thinks it's the best way to go, and has been burned when dipping into the FA pool .

He sucks at it.


Actually,
He isn't good at it, and knows his limitations. The man did not know how many draft choices he made on draft day. Listen to his presser. That should scare the shit out of everyone that follows the draft, but he gets a pass, due to his perceived brilliance... I still like him, but he is no guru, imo.

Any fucking idiot would have worked very hard to get us a supreme line on both sides of the ball the past few years. He did not work that hard at it. As a result, we left SB trophies for others to get, imo. He's too stupid to even know what he did to us, and the fanbase is too stupid to call him on it. I'm not bitter, though. I was born and raised in Wisconsin and realize what a stupid motherfucker I am as a result.

[-(
TwinkieGorilla  
#30 Posted : Wednesday, May 1, 2013 10:05:11 PM(UTC)
dfosterf said: Go to Quoted Post
Any fucking idiot would have worked very hard to get us a FUCKING SUPERBOWL TROPHY and he did OOPS I'm an idiot.


Fixed?

Zero2Cool  
#31 Posted : Thursday, May 2, 2013 5:07:07 AM(UTC)
dfosterf said: Go to Quoted Post
Any fucking idiot would have worked very hard to get us a supreme line on both sides of the ball the past few years. He did not work that hard at it. As a result, we left SB trophies for others to get, imo. He's too stupid to even know what he did to us, and the fanbase is too stupid to call him on it. I'm not bitter, though. I was born and raised in Wisconsin and realize what a stupid motherfucker I am as a result. [-(



The Packers have drafted 17 offensive linemen and 15 defensive lineman since 2005. Yeah, Ted Thompson wasn't trying at all there!

Just like the idiots who blame the President for everything, you blame Ted Thompson for every shortcoming of the Packers as if it is easy to win Super Bowl after Super Bowl. You need to widen your understanding young man of this game called, football. We're here to help you along the way.
play2win  
#32 Posted : Thursday, May 2, 2013 5:24:02 AM(UTC)
Hey, I've complained about Ted's lacking presence in getting FA players to help the team, and do think one or two might have offset some losses we suffered to injury, but I cannot fault his drafting.

Imagine our team last year had we not lost three players on D to injury: Desmond Bishop, Nick Perry and Jerel Worthy.

Bish would have shut a lot of those middle gains down, and so too Perry. Worthy looked to be just getting it at the NFL level when he was lost. I think the playoffs may have been far different with those 3 healthy.

Two years ago we nearly went undefeated coming off a SB win. All done with Ted's system of player procurement and development. Hindsight is bliss.

Thompson holds to his drafts, and this last one may have been his very best. Give it a couple years. Maybe another Lombardi Trophy or two finds a home in our trophy cases.

A grade. C grade. B grade. It all seems a bit foolish this early to make a call. All GMs make mistakes. Ted drafts better than most. I have no problem supporting him and his efforts to make us better.
TheKanataThrilla  
#33 Posted : Thursday, May 2, 2013 10:29:43 AM(UTC)
No doubt this idiot gave the Eagles an A grade when they assembled the "Dream Team".

Getting Aaron and Clay under long term contracts at least gives you a B in my opinion.

DarkaneRules  
#34 Posted : Thursday, May 2, 2013 1:13:37 PM(UTC)
I think he was thinking in terms of relativity where it appears like each of the other team "improved" more. That being said, I think he should have concentrated on grading each team on an individual basis.
dfosterf  
#35 Posted : Friday, May 3, 2013 4:52:48 PM(UTC)
TwinkieGorilla said: Go to Quoted Post
Fixed?



That was not nice. Kindly never do that again. This is not PFT or somesuch. I've always respected your opinion, I'd think you'd respect mine regardless of the distance between them. I like you just fine, lad... I think you already know that. Don't change my words. Assault them if you wanna, but don't change 'em.

doddpower applauding that is shitty and devoid of class, also.
Dulak  
#36 Posted : Saturday, May 4, 2013 2:58:16 AM(UTC)
Im a bit 'worried' about the lions and especially the niners upgrades this offseason ...

49ers were tough last season and they got some nice additions - even thou they lost a few peeps IMO their upgrades outweigh their losses ...

lions improved also - their frontline is going to be brutal ...

we need to run to the outside ;)

MN and bears not really worried about ...

and as far as this dudes C grade ... bleh - B+ at the worst (we got 2 of the best RBs in the draft) - and drafted some needs at every pick ... decent picks too.
nerdmann  
#37 Posted : Saturday, May 4, 2013 3:31:19 AM(UTC)
Dulak said: Go to Quoted Post
Im a bit 'worried' about the lions and especially the niners upgrades this offseason ...

49ers were tough last season and they got some nice additions - even thou they lost a few peeps IMO their upgrades outweigh their losses ...

lions improved also - their frontline is going to be brutal ...

we need to run to the outside ;)

MN and bears not really worried about ...

and as far as this dudes C grade ... bleh - B+ at the worst (we got 2 of the best RBs in the draft) - and drafted some needs at every pick ... decent picks too.


Neither of those teams scare me.

The only way this team loses is self destruction.
echizen20  
#38 Posted : Sunday, May 5, 2013 6:55:47 PM(UTC)
I give the packers a B+. They had great value picks in Lacy and Franklin and both should make an impact right away and improve our overall running attack. Datone Jones is a solid 1st round pick and should give us a decent upgrade over what we had last year. If he plays as well as he did in college for us and does not get injured, I definitely see him improving our line and allowing our other players to make more plays.
OlHoss1884  
#39 Posted : Wednesday, May 8, 2013 10:55:26 PM(UTC)
The problem with draft/FA grades is figuring out what the grader uses for criteria. Prisco of CBS gave the Packers a C for the same reason others gave them an A or B...namely picking 2 RB's. The fact is, he has a passing game bias and sees this as a waste. The reason Thompson has been so successful in building a deep and talented team is that he gets good value for his picks (getting guys rated above where they were selected) and finding a lot of guys under the radar. He's also been smart enough not to waste salary cap money on players he can project will not be any better than their replacements. Bishop was a cheaper and better alternative to Barnett. Jones is a better alternative to Jennings. More importantly is the age old mantra of "better to lose a guy a year too soon than a year too late" which was CERTAINLY the case with Ahman Green and Brett Favre.

While the other teams in the fivision made some good FA moves and I think the Vikes had an outstanding draft, those teams are all still trying to fill holes while the Packers are adding depth. With few exceptions, the Packers can play at a high level with injury issues while no one in the division has anything close to their depth. Not only did the Packers fix a bad running game and add depth all over, but they have something like the 4th or 5th most cap space left in the league. That's what happens when you don't overpay for a Bushrod, Bush or Jennings.
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