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Offline Pack93z  
#11 Posted : Thursday, May 2, 2013 11:47:30 AM(UTC)
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For me.. watching every Badger game each season vs a collection of 5 games of Bama this year, I think Ball has the better overall career in the pros.

Now would Ball fit in with the Packers or Lacy with the Broncos better than where they landed, we shall never know. But based on the talents they bring to the field, I would put Ball ahead of Lacy.

And that is not homerism.. I haven't like many Badger backs as pros.. Dayne included. Just think Balls talents will be more productive at this level and for a longer duration.

I like my crow served cold... thank you very much. That is if Lacy can serve it.
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Pack93z said: Go to Quoted Post
For me.. watching every Badger game each season vs a collection of 5 games of Bama this year, I think Ball has the better overall career in the pros.

Now would Ball fit in with the Packers or Lacy with the Broncos better than where they landed, we shall never know. But based on the talents they bring to the field, I would put Ball ahead of Lacy.

And that is not homerism.. I haven't like many Badger backs as pros.. Dayne included. Just think Balls talents will be more productive at this level and for a longer duration.

I like my crow served cold... thank you very much. That is if Lacy can serve it.


I think Eddie Lacy (why do people only use last names?) will be better for the Packers than Montee Ball would have been. I think Ball needs a wider hole than Lacy. I also feel that Lacy is more of a punishing back, which I think will help the Packers offense.

I feel Ball to the Broncos is a better fit than Lacy with the Broncos too.



I just don't think Lacy will live up to the hype. If he can punch it through on * and short, average more than 4 yards a carry, doesn't get the QB killed and doesn't fumble ... I'll put it down as a win for the Packers.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, May 2, 2013 1:34:17 PM(UTC)
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All I have to say is woulda, coulda, shoulda.

He's not on our team, Lacy is. I don't wanna speculate who will be better at the next level. You just don't know till a couple years later. Both have strengths and weaknesses. I think Eddie will bring more to the team, simply because we didn't have that bruiser since Grant was healthy 07-09. And not have to rely on Kuhn to carry the ball every 3rd and short. Monte Ball just isn't that thumper that I like..

Really this RB class was so deep, I don't think we're complaining what we got. At least i'm not. Lets Box!
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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post

I just don't think Lacy will live up to the hype. If he can punch it through on * and short, average more than 4 yards a carry, doesn't get the QB killed and doesn't fumble ... I'll put it down as a win for the Packers.



IMO if he doesn't run into his own blockers or repeatedly run into the mass of bodies and repeatedly get 1-2 yards; and then finally gets decent yardage when he doesn't do this (anyone figure out whom Im talking about) ... Ill be happy.

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IMO if he doesn't run into his own blockers or repeatedly run into the mass of bodies and repeatedly get 1-2 yards; and then finally gets decent yardage when he doesn't do this (anyone figure out whom Im talking about) ... Ill be happy.



Alex Green? :-k
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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
I think Eddie Lacy (why do people only use last names?) will be better for the Packers than Montee Ball would have been. I think Ball needs a wider hole than Lacy. I also feel that Lacy is more of a punishing back, which I think will help the Packers offense.

I feel Ball to the Broncos is a better fit than Lacy with the Broncos too.



I just don't think Lacy will live up to the hype. If he can punch it through on * and short, average more than 4 yards a carry, doesn't get the QB killed and doesn't fumble ... I'll put it down as a win for the Packers.





Who amongst us gives a rat's ass about Lacy living up to the hype? All we need is a credible running game, and imo, he looks good enough to provide it, regardless of how bad we are at creating a hole for the running back. [I] like him most because I suspect we need his beef to get through the initial (non) hole.


The fact that he excelled under a ZBS blocking system cannot be overlooked, imo. I think he is the perfect fit for us.
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dfosterf said: Go to Quoted Post
Who amongst us gives a rat's ass about Lacy living up to the hype? All we need is a credible running game, and imo, he looks good enough to provide it, regardless of how bad we are at creating a hole for the running back. [I] like him most because I suspect we need his beef to get through the initial (non) hole.


The fact that he excelled under a ZBS blocking system cannot be overlooked, imo.


Him and Franklin will make our Offensive line look like a pro bowl line.Flapper \:d/ Laugh LOL Drool
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Him and Franklin will make our Offensive line look like a pro bowl line.Flapper \:d/ Laugh LOL Drool




This is a possibility, also. I frankly doubt it, to be honest... I'm totally fine with our current running backs... If there is no hole, there is no hole...


My minimal hopes rest reflecting upon the the production of Ahman Green and Ryan Grant. They seemed to manage without a hole, to my satisfaction, at least.

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This is a possibility, also. I frankly doubt it, to be honest... I'm totally fine with our current running backs... If there is no hole, there is no hole...


My minimal hopes rest reflecting upon the the production of Ahman Green and Ryan Grant. They seemed to manage without a hole, to my satisfaction, at least.



Honestly this line isn't that bad, we've just went through some troubles last year. From not running the ball effectively(which has to do with the running backs we've had as well) to not keeping healthy. Imo we have some physical lineman especially our guards. We just need to get some depth and stay healthy which we have gotten through the draft. This is a team game. I'm not blaming it all on the offensive line. Hell two years ago we only gave up 29 sacks. The thing i'll say about this line is that it lacks consistency. It's not like our lines gonna be the same as last years either. There's always room for improvement, no matter how bad the supposed coaching is. I'm very hopeful our line will be better.
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I applaud you because that is what I want to be true. I want to sense it, and you put me in a better mood about the whole damn thing. Flapper
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