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Offline Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 5:33:17 AM(UTC)
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The Packers didn't pick up a free agent Safety to start opposite Morgan Burnett. Also, during the draft they did not draft a replacement either. I can't help think that with Charles Woodson still available that we could see Woodson wearing #21 (which coincidentally has not been issued) during the 2013 season as a Packer.

What do you think the chances of Woodson returning to the Green Bay Packers are?
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#2 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 6:05:41 AM(UTC)
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Personally, I like it. Charles is a pros pro. One of the best defenders to play in the NFL. He could be very good for us as a pure Safety, if his shoulders are healed. That's the big question.

There is something about having a veteran like him fighting alongside all of these young players for another SB ring. I believe that is the biggest and most important component to his return to Green Bay, should it happen.
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#3 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 6:09:55 AM(UTC)
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From the Woodson is Ancient thread..

Originally Posted by: Pack93z Go to Quoted Post
I would not rule out, if things don't fall right for the Packers in the draft and free agency, that they may keep Woodson's number in the Rolodex for depth sometime this fall.


I think it is very possible.. especially if the market remains soft for his services.
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#4 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 7:17:34 AM(UTC)
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Is it just his price or were there other factors influencing the decision to cut him?
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#5 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 8:34:05 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: rabidgopher04 Go to Quoted Post
Is it just his price or were there other factors influencing the decision to cut him?


money, age, "history of injuries".

I say it's 50-50 that he returns. I would be glad if he does but I won't pout if he does not.
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#6 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 9:06:45 AM(UTC)
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From a standpoint of physical ability we probably have guys that are better but from an experience ability it is clear that Woodson has no equal on the team. Obviously any return would be on the teams terms but I think Woodson would be OK with that. He is smart enough to know the business side of things and he has no doubt figured out that, barring injury somewhere, he is probably not going to get a call this year. Take a small salary from the team that made you (of course he helped make them as well) and retire next season a full fledged Packers hero. What could be more endearing than "taking one for the team" as your swan song. Double D figured it out and he will forever be a Packers hero. I would be more than happy if he were to return. Of course, like wpr, its not going to kill me if he doesn't
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#7 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 12:47:06 PM(UTC)
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I don't understand why people can't comprehend the complete loss of speed and bum shoulder deficiencies Wood has. It is why he wasn't picked up by anybody yet. Now, if you need a dime corner to line up on a slot receiver, or to blitz - then Wood might be our man. But what should the compensation be for a guy like that?

I have confidence that McMillian will seize the job and do well. Charles Woodson is a corner, not a safety - he is too small to be an every down safety.
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#8 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 1:06:58 PM(UTC)
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Charles Woodson - 6' 1" 202 lbs

Jerron McMillian - 5' 11" 203 lbs
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#9 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 1:24:45 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
Charles Woodson - 6' 1" 202 lbs

Jerron McMillian - 5' 11" 203 lbs


McMillian runs a 4.3 iirc. Then there's the issue of Woody's repeated shoulder breaks.

Still he wants that pick six record, so he'll be playing somewhere.
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#10 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 1:31:19 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
Charles Woodson - 6' 1" 202 lbs

Jerron McMillian - 5' 11" 203 lbs


Stop with the facts!!!!! They are irrelevant.

This crop of FA veterans got caught in a bad cycle as far as signing the big dollar contract.

The salary cap is not moving until 2015, teams really have to watch who they sign and how much to spend.

There will be a team that signs Woody if and when there comes a need due to injury or such.

As far as him returning to The Packers, if Ted and Mike see they need a veteran and Woody is still available, I am betting he would be the first to get a call.
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#11 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 1:32:36 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
McMillian runs a 4.3 iirc. Then there's the issue of Woody's repeated shoulder breaks.

Still he wants that pick six record, so he'll be playing somewhere.


iirc? did you hiccup while typing lol

Scouts said 4.4, either way, I think that is faster than Charles Woodson. It'd be best for the Packers if Jerron McMillian erases the thought of looking into resigning Woodson.

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#12 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 2:00:07 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan Go to Quoted Post
Stop with the facts!!!!! They are irrelevant.

This crop of FA veterans got caught in a bad cycle as far as signing the big dollar contract.

The salary cap is not moving until 2015, teams really have to watch who they sign and how much to spend.

There will be a team that signs Woody if and when there comes a need due to injury or such.

As far as him returning to The Packers, if Ted and Mike see they need a veteran and Woody is still available, I am betting he would be the first to get a call.


The new CBA certainly doesn't help things either. Before teams had no real reason to hold onto cap space during the year and could afford a 1 year contract for an older player. Now signing a veteran like that is money that you can't rollover into the next year.
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#13 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 2:18:05 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
Charles Woodson - 6' 1" 202 lbs

Jerron McMillian - 5' 11" 203 lbs


Yeah but that's one really really big pound.
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#14 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 2:22:21 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
iirc? did you hiccup while typing lol

Scouts said 4.4, either way, I think that is faster than Charles Woodson. It'd be best for the Packers if Jerron McMillian erases the thought of looking into resigning Woodson.



The best I saw for a forty time on McMillian was 4.4something, 4.46? That would still make him one of the fastest safeties. If he can erase all thoughts of Woody that would bode well for us, but if they had to bring Woody back so be it, I would like to see him get the pick six record.
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#15 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 3:00:20 PM(UTC)
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wish we would resign woody for even just 1 year ... if he would take a pay cut
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#16 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 4:10:39 PM(UTC)
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The question is who goes if Woody comes back? Your talking about players that should benefit greatly from the PT they got last year at a position I think everyone agrees takes a couple years to be able to grasp.

So you dump one for a player that MAY give you some help for a year IF he can even stay on the field? Or, do you cut Bush or Ross who will probably do more on ST's than Woodson can give you in the Dbackfield?

I think too many people here want to cut these 2nd year players who were really out there as rookies just trying to figure out what the hell was going on.

The way this staff works I say that won't happen and that the only way Woodson comes back here is if one of the young Db's gets hurt and he's still around.

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#17 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 4:14:26 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: warhawk Go to Quoted Post
The question is who goes if Woody comes back? Your talking about players that should benefit greatly from the PT they got last year at a position I think everyone agrees takes a couple years to be able to grasp.

So you dump one for a player that MAY give you some help for a year IF he can even stay on the field? Or, do you cut Bush or Ross who will probably do more on ST's than Woodson can give you in the Dbackfield?

I think too many people here want to cut these 2nd year players who were really out there as rookies just trying to figure out what the hell was going on.

The way this staff works I say that won't happen and that the only way Woodson comes back here is if one of the young Db's gets hurt and he's still around.



Yeah, have to agree, only way I see Woodson back is some bad injury situation where one or two important guys in the secondary go down. Otherwise you're signing an old, slow veteran player to be a backup, but not play special teams. Backup DBs get a lot of playing time on special teams, so if he can't do that, and isn't going to start, even at the vet min his value to the team has to be fairly low.

I really like Woodson too, I just don't see it.
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#18 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 4:25:03 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
Charles Woodson - 6' 1" 202 lbs

Jerron McMillian - 5' 11" 203 lbs


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I figured Woodson for about 180 lbs. Thanks for making a dumbass out of me. Big Grin
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#19 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 4:45:25 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: warhawk Go to Quoted Post
The question is who goes if Woody comes back? Your talking about players that should benefit greatly from the PT they got last year at a position I think everyone agrees takes a couple years to be able to grasp.

So you dump one for a player that MAY give you some help for a year IF he can even stay on the field? Or, do you cut Bush or Ross who will probably do more on ST's than Woodson can give you in the Dbackfield?

I think too many people here want to cut these 2nd year players who were really out there as rookies just trying to figure out what the hell was going on.

The way this staff works I say that won't happen and that the only way Woodson comes back here is if one of the young Db's gets hurt and he's still around.




I won't speak for others, but the scenario I was speaking of would be if there happened to be injuries to these guys in TC.

I don't think anyone wants any of the guys who played last year cut, but if the situation came up where The Packers needed another db, Woody would be the first called.

The Packers didn't draft a S, I think they did sign a UDFA S, but if you think about it, Woody's roster spot hasn't been filled by anyone, and if he was resigned despite no injuries, he wouldn't be taking a spot from anyone who was on the roster last year, he would just be taking back his spot on the roster.

Again, the only scenario I see he comes back is if he is needed because of multiple unjuries to the safety position.
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#20 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 4:52:16 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan Go to Quoted Post
I won't speak for others, but the scenario I was speaking of would be if there happened to be injuries to these guys in TC.

I don't think anyone wants any of the guys who played last year cut, but if the situation came up where The Packers needed another db, Woody would be the first called.

The Packers didn't draft a S, I think they did sign a UDFA S, but if you think about it, Woody's roster spot hasn't been filled by anyone, and if he was resigned despite no injuries, he wouldn't be taking a spot from anyone who was on the roster last year, he would just be taking back his spot on the roster.

Again, the only scenario I see he comes back is if he is needed because of multiple unjuries to the safety position.


Well they did take a corner in the draft and they can keep Bush and move him to one of the backup safety positions. I'm not too concerned about the secondary, just want to see more improvement out of the safeties. Considered Woodson a temporary fix last season, not a solution to losing Collins.
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#21 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 5:19:44 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
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I figured Woodson for about 180 lbs. Thanks for making a dumbass out of me. Big Grin


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#22 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 7:07:17 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
I don't understand why people can't comprehend the complete loss of speed and bum shoulder deficiencies Wood has. It is why he wasn't picked up by anybody yet. Now, if you need a dime corner to line up on a slot receiver, or to blitz - then Wood might be our man. But what should the compensation be for a guy like that?

I have confidence that McMillian will seize the job and do well. Charles Woodson is a corner, not a safety - he is too small to be an every down safety.


I can not imagine IF they did bring him back that it would be for much more than league min of $940,000 and he would be more than a situational role player.
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#23 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 7:08:57 PM(UTC)
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I like many players that we have, but if Charles can come in and beat another player for a position fair and square, the staff will have to consider his age vs losing a younger player who just needs time to develop. Tough call.

Regardless, Woodson as a pure Safety could be good with his experience. Good for many of those younger players. If his wheels are too slow to get the job done, I would side with the youth.
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#24 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 8:20:53 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Dakotat Go to Quoted Post
Well they did take a corner in the draft and they can keep Bush and move him to one of the backup safety positions. I'm not too concerned about the secondary, just want to see more improvement out of the safeties. Considered Woodson a temporary fix last season, not a solution to losing Collins.


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Topic..........a sign Charles Woodson will return



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#25 Posted : Tuesday, May 7, 2013 5:19:11 AM(UTC)
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JerseyAl wrote:
For seven years, Charles Woodson was everything Packers fans wanted–a leader and defensive difference-maker.

Oh, and an expensive free agent acquisition.

But scheduled to count $9,437,500 against the salary cap in 2013, the Packers opted to release Woodson and use that money elsewhere. Since then, the Packers have signed Aaron Rodgers and Clay Matthews to lucrative contract extensions and brought in 11 players via the draft.

But one position that wasn’t addressed by the Packers in April’s draft was safety. [...]

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