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Offline MintBaconDrivel  
#1 Posted : Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:16:54 PM(UTC)
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LombardiAve said:
As OTAs are about to begin this month, here at LombardiAve we have decided it would be a good time to take a closer look at each position on the Green Bay Packers roster. Over the next few weeks we will break down each position and discuss which players are safe from being cut, which players [...]
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Looks like a pretty good site. Is it new?
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You want two things from your backup(s) according to the Packer philosophy:

One obviously is insurance against the unthinkable. Nobody replaces Rodgers, but hopefully whoever can win - or at least not lose - a solid percentage of games if he is needed to play.

Two is like a cash crop on a farm - you hope you can have the guy rise to a level of being worth something significant in trade BEFORE he "spoils" - is eligible for free agency and you lose him with very little compensation to a team with money and need.

Harrell isn't quite ripe yet, but IMO there is still hope - like Hasselbeck, Flynn, and the others - another quality product from the folks at Packer QB Farm. Thus, I hope they can keep both him and Coleman one way or another this season.
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You want two things from your backup(s) according to the Packer philosophy:

One obviously is insurance against the unthinkable. Nobody replaces Rodgers, but hopefully whoever can win - or at least not lose - a solid percentage of games if he is needed to play.

Two is like a cash crop on a farm - you hope you can have the guy rise to a level of being worth something significant in trade BEFORE he "spoils" - is eligible for free agency and you lose him with very little compensation to a team with money and need.

Harrell isn't quite ripe yet, but IMO there is still hope - like Hasselbeck, Flynn, and the others - another quality product from the folks at Packer QB Farm. Thus, I hope they can keep both him and Coleman one way or another this season.


Harrell is a career backup.

We don't know what Coleman's ceiling is yet. With Mike's QB school, it could be high.
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you hope you can have the guy rise to a level of being worth something significant in trade BEFORE he "spoils" - is eligible for free agency and you lose him with very little compensation to a team with money and need.

Harrell isn't quite ripe yet, but IMO there is still hope ...Thus, I hope they can keep both him and Coleman one way or another this season.


I believe that window is closed on Mr. Harrell. This is the last year of his contract. He will be a RFA but since he was undrafted that doesn't help you much. If you really think he will be something special you would have to sign him to a long term deal this year before he hits free agency, then hope to trade him.

I tend to agree with the other poster, he is a career backup.
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I believe that window is closed on Mr. Harrell. This is the last year of his contract. He will be a RFA but since he was undrafted that doesn't help you much. If you really think he will be something special you would have to sign him to a long term deal this year before he hits free agency, then hope to trade him.

I tend to agree with the other poster, he is a career backup.


If he's an RFA then no big deal. If the Packers want him then he's probably stuck. Like shields (who was/is an RFA). Has Shields signed his deal yet or is he still an RFA? ... anyways no other team was willing to give up a 2nd round pick for Shields and sign him to a deal he would sign so he has resign with the Packers.

As for Harrell, I don't think he has the arm for the NFL. I know the back-up OL he has played with in preseason has been pretty bad, but even still I've seen nothing to say he's a for sure #2 guy or has any physical potential to grow...

Coleman on the other hand, he clearly has the raw physical tools to grow. The question about him is more can he get the mental side down. Which if he gets mentally close to Harrell then Harrell is gone. And I don't think Harrell can grow into something worth trading for.
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Regarding Harrell, didn't a lot of people say the same about Flynn - career backup/not strong arm? I tend to favor Coleman also - greater potential, however, it's not so much what use can we make of Harrell as what can we get for him in trade? It concerns me more that he will be an RFA, and hence little or no value in trade. That being the case, maybe we should just cut him in preseason and be done with it - and maybe concentrate on Brown as a #3.
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Regarding Harrell, didn't a lot of people say the same about Flynn - career backup/not strong arm?


Yes and so far those people are correct. Flynn hasn't been a starter yet. And the thing is Harrell hasn't even show a quarter of what Flynn showed... Flynn showed a little spark and potential every once in a while. Harrell hasn't shown much of anything.

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it's not so much what use can we make of Harrell as what can we get for him in trade?


huh? why would a team trade for Harrell? Harrell hasn't show enough to worth a team giving up a pick for him. And the upside hasn't look like it's there. I think teams would be more interested in drafted a 7th round rookie QB with more potential and coaching them up than Harrell.

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It concerns me more that he will be an RFA, and hence little or no value in trade. That being the case, maybe we should just cut him in preseason and be done with it - and maybe concentrate on Brown as a #3.


RFA is no big deal... 99% of the time if a team wants their RFA than they keep them. See Thompson with not letting Bush get away when he was an RFA and signed with the Titans. Ted Thompson matched it.

As far as Brown.... after the Packers drafted Coleman last year (becoming the 4th QB on the Packers roster at the time) Mike McCarthy said he's got into training camps with 4 or 5 QBs become and he doesn't prefer it because there isn't enough snaps to go around for everyone. And then the Packers cut the FA they picked up from the AFL.

So if they picked up Brown and are going with four this time, I take that as one of the two middle guys could be gone and Brown might be the new practice squad QB.
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#9 Posted : Saturday, May 18, 2013 9:58:55 PM(UTC)
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My point was, if Harrell signs with somebody else, it's doubtful the Packers get any compensation. Yeah, they could keep him, but I'm assuming after one more season of improvement for Coleman and maybe Brown, there's no way the Packers would match even a fairly low offer for Harrell.

I actually don't have near the low opinion of Harrell as a lot of people. I think he could step in and do an adequate job for the Packers or some other team, but I'd rather have Coleman holding the clipboard (do they even still do that?)
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My point was, if Harrell signs with somebody else, it's doubtful the Packers get any compensation. Yeah, they could keep him, but I'm assuming after one more season of improvement for Coleman and maybe Brown, there's no way the Packers would match even a fairly low offer for Harrell.

I actually don't have near the low opinion of Harrell as a lot of people. I think he could step in and do an adequate job for the Packers or some other team, but I'd rather have Coleman holding the clipboard (do they even still do that?)


You guys don't get it.

Harrell is the long-term backup. Coleman is the one we develop and trade for a 2 or 3.
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