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Offline Pacopete4  
#1 Posted : Sunday, September 28, 2008 7:54:41 PM(UTC)
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I know we don't wanna compare Brett and Arod but Favre played with a broken thumb and did great... theres gotta be a needle they can shoot in there that will allow him to feel no pain for 4 quarters... its just if he's willing to do it and he's tough enough to handle the pain
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#2 Posted : Sunday, September 28, 2008 8:00:02 PM(UTC)
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I know we don't wanna compare Brett and Arod but Favre played with a broken thumb and did great... theres gotta be a needle they can shoot in there that will allow him to feel no pain for 4 quarters... its just if he's willing to do it and he's tough enough to handle the pain


Every NFL player plays with some type of injury. Its impossible to play 100% healthy in the game of football.

With that said, Aaron Rodgers, I believe will be fine. It'll hurt like heck tomorrow I bet but come Wednesday it'll get better and he'll participate full practice on Friday and start his fifth game Sunday.
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#3 Posted : Sunday, September 28, 2008 8:22:54 PM(UTC)
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I know we don't wanna compare Brett and Arod but Favre played with a broken thumb and did great... theres gotta be a needle they can shoot in there that will allow him to feel no pain for 4 quarters... its just if he's willing to do it and he's tough enough to handle the pain


Every NFL player plays with some type of injury. Its impossible to play 100% healthy in the game of football.

With that said, Aaron Rodgers, I believe will be fine. It'll hurt like heck tomorrow I bet but come Wednesday it'll get better and he'll participate full practice on Friday and start his fifth game Sunday.


He seemed to be able to throw in the 4th quarter. I think after that monster hit he took when he came back in that they wanted to keep him out as a precaution at that point. It's going to take a little getting used to QB injuries again for Packer fans.
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#4 Posted : Sunday, September 28, 2008 8:34:38 PM(UTC)
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I know we don't wanna compare Brett and Arod but Favre played with a broken thumb and did great... theres gotta be a needle they can shoot in there that will allow him to feel no pain for 4 quarters... its just if he's willing to do it and he's tough enough to handle the pain


Every NFL player plays with some type of injury. Its impossible to play 100% healthy in the game of football.

With that said, Aaron Rodgers, I believe will be fine. It'll hurt like heck tomorrow I bet but come Wednesday it'll get better and he'll participate full practice on Friday and start his fifth game Sunday.


He seemed to be able to throw in the 4th quarter. I think after that monster hit he took when he came back in that they wanted to keep him out as a precaution at that point. It's going to take a little getting used to QB injuries again for Packer fans.


I'm not sure why fans have to get used to QB injuries. Every QB we've had has been injured at some point or another.

Now, a QB missing a start because of an injury, thats a different breed.


I think he only threw one pass after the play I mentioned and that was the TD.
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Offline IronMan  
#5 Posted : Sunday, September 28, 2008 8:45:55 PM(UTC)
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He must have hurt it on the scramble, and then when he threw the TD he felt it go. At that point, he must have felt that he couldn't let loose anymore.

Before we go too far with this thread, we should acknowledge that last year Brett Favre was knocked out of a game with the exact same injury. He was okay the following week, and let's hope the same thing holds true for Rodgers.

If you are referring to the Cowboys game last year Favre injured his right elbow; not his shoulder.
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#6 Posted : Sunday, September 28, 2008 8:49:05 PM(UTC)
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I know we don't wanna compare Brett and Arod but Favre played with a broken thumb and did great... theres gotta be a needle they can shoot in there that will allow him to feel no pain for 4 quarters... its just if he's willing to do it and he's tough enough to handle the pain


Every NFL player plays with some type of injury. Its impossible to play 100% healthy in the game of football.

With that said, Aaron Rodgers, I believe will be fine. It'll hurt like heck tomorrow I bet but come Wednesday it'll get better and he'll participate full practice on Friday and start his fifth game Sunday.


He seemed to be able to throw in the 4th quarter. I think after that monster hit he took when he came back in that they wanted to keep him out as a precaution at that point. It's going to take a little getting used to QB injuries again for Packer fans.


I'm not sure why fans have to get used to QB injuries. Every QB we've had has been injured at some point or another.

Now, a QB missing a start because of an injury, thats a different breed.


I think he only threw one pass after the play I mentioned and that was the TD.


That's what I meant. We've been spoiled with the stability at QB recently. Rodgers' last pass was the INT when he got pasted.
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Offline Gravedigga  
#7 Posted : Sunday, September 28, 2008 11:09:05 PM(UTC)
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He must have hurt it on the scramble, and then when he threw the TD he felt it go. At that point, he must have felt that he couldn't let loose anymore.

Before we go too far with this thread, we should acknowledge that last year Brett Favre was knocked out of a game with the exact same injury. He was okay the following week, and let's hope the same thing holds true for Rodgers.

If you are referring to the Cowboys game last year Favre injured his right elbow; not his shoulder.


I think you're right about the elbow, although Favre also suffered a dislocation of his left shoulder in that game.


He dislocated his left shoulder in last years Cowboy game? Are you sure cuz i didnt remember that at all.
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Offline Greg C.  
#8 Posted : Monday, September 29, 2008 12:05:48 AM(UTC)
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He must have hurt it on the scramble, and then when he threw the TD he felt it go. At that point, he must have felt that he couldn't let loose anymore.

Before we go too far with this thread, we should acknowledge that last year Brett Favre was knocked out of a game with the exact same injury. He was okay the following week, and let's hope the same thing holds true for Rodgers.

If you are referring to the Cowboys game last year Favre injured his right elbow; not his shoulder.


I think you're right about the elbow, although Favre also suffered a dislocation of his left shoulder in that game.


He dislocated his left shoulder in last years Cowboy game? Are you sure cuz i didnt remember that at all.


I googled it and found several articles. Apparently Favre said that he separated the left shoulder, but McCarthy said that he had just aggravated a previous injury. Here is a short article about it:

http://afp.google.com/ar...t_qc8g-4MTxSuk3UcbeItBAw

At any rate, my original statement was more wrong than right, because having a separated shoulder on your throwing arm is a lot worse than having it on the non-throwing arm.
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#9 Posted : Monday, September 29, 2008 12:10:42 AM(UTC)
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Thompson is an idiot for putting all of his eggs in one basket... and I'm not talking about Brett, but in having no two straight out of college rookies to backup (injury prone) Rodgers. I hate to say I told you so, but... I did.


First point, I agree. We should have found a veteran to back up Rodgers. I don't know who, but any veteran would have been nice.

Second, injury prone? How the hell can someone be injury prone when he hasn't even had the opportunity to start half a season yet? That is such a weak statement that has no ground to stand on. You told us so? If that's the best you have, keep talking cuz we all like seeing silliness and we could use a good laugh after these last two (and I use this term loosely) games.


pfft, injury prone ... wow ... half the damn league would be injury prone under this guys synopsis.
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Offline greenwhiteandnogold  
#10 Posted : Monday, September 29, 2008 12:28:19 AM(UTC)
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Thompson is an idiot for putting all of his eggs in one basket... and I'm not talking about Brett, but in having no two straight out of college rookies to backup (injury prone) Rodgers. I hate to say I told you so, but... I did.


First point, I agree. We should have found a veteran to back up Rodgers. I don't know who, but any veteran would have been nice.

Second, injury prone? How the hell can someone be injury prone when he hasn't even had the opportunity to start half a season yet? That is such a weak statement that has no ground to stand on. You told us so? If that's the best you have, keep talking cuz we all like seeing silliness and we could use a good laugh after these last two (and I use this term loosely) games.


pfft, injury prone ... wow ... half the damn league would be injury prone under this guys synopsis.


I have no basis for my 'injury prone' statement, it's weak, and I have no ground to stand on? are you kididng me? Rodgers has been injured twice before even starting a game. Lest you forget his broken ankle and had a hamstring injury before even starting a game.

Yeah, I'll keep talking... because I'm right. The problem with Rodgers isn't that he doesn't have the talent to throw the ball, but rather doesn't have the tallent in avoiding the sack. And when he does go down he doesn't know avoid injury. How many time this year did you see the pocket collapse around him and he gets taken down akwardly? I've seen it all year. The guy only sees half the field and has no pocket awareness. It's only a matter of time before he's taken down hard. He's been lucky so far. Favre has the uncanny ability to avoid getting crushed by falling backwards, away from the defender (while in mid throw) and usually does so while protecting his throwing hand. Ever watch the guy when he goes down? Rodgers aint got it... and yes Ted Thompson is an idiot.
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#11 Posted : Monday, September 29, 2008 1:10:42 AM(UTC)
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Thompson is an idiot for putting all of his eggs in one basket... and I'm not talking about Brett, but in having no two straight out of college rookies to backup (injury prone) Rodgers. I hate to say I told you so, but... I did.


First point, I agree. We should have found a veteran to back up Rodgers. I don't know who, but any veteran would have been nice.

Second, injury prone? How the hell can someone be injury prone when he hasn't even had the opportunity to start half a season yet? That is such a weak statement that has no ground to stand on. You told us so? If that's the best you have, keep talking cuz we all like seeing silliness and we could use a good laugh after these last two (and I use this term loosely) games.


pfft, injury prone ... wow ... half the damn league would be injury prone under this guys synopsis.


I have no basis for my 'injury prone' statement, it's weak, and I have no ground to stand on? are you kididng me? Rodgers has been injured twice before even starting a game. Lest you forget his broken ankle and had a hamstring injury before even starting a game.

Yeah, I'll keep talking... because I'm right. The problem with Rodgers isn't that he doesn't have the talent to throw the ball, but rather doesn't have the tallent in avoiding the sack. And when he does go down he doesn't know avoid injury. How many time this year did you see the pocket collapse around him and he gets taken down akwardly? I've seen it all year. The guy only sees half the field and has no pocket awareness. It's only a matter of time before he's taken down hard. He's been lucky so far. Favre has the uncanny ability to avoid getting crushed by falling backwards, away from the defender (while in mid throw) and usually does so while protecting his throwing hand. Ever watch the guy when he goes down? Rodgers aint got it... and yesTed Thompsonis an idiot.


You are wrong.
He had a broken bone in his foot in which he played an entire second half with.
His hamstring injury would not have prevented him from starting the next weeks game IF he were the starter. He was not, so instead of risking further injury the IR'd or benched him I can't recall exactly and signed a veteran, Craig Nall.

Nice try, but you fail.
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Offline greenwhiteandnogold  
#12 Posted : Monday, September 29, 2008 11:40:37 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Thompson is an idiot for putting all of his eggs in one basket... and I'm not talking about Brett, but in having no two straight out of college rookies to backup (injury prone) Rodgers. I hate to say I told you so, but... I did.


First point, I agree. We should have found a veteran to back up Rodgers. I don't know who, but any veteran would have been nice.

Second, injury prone? How the hell can someone be injury prone when he hasn't even had the opportunity to start half a season yet? That is such a weak statement that has no ground to stand on. You told us so? If that's the best you have, keep talking cuz we all like seeing silliness and we could use a good laugh after these last two (and I use this term loosely) games.


pfft, injury prone ... wow ... half the damn league would be injury prone under this guys synopsis.


I have no basis for my 'injury prone' statement, it's weak, and I have no ground to stand on? are you kididng me? Rodgers has been injured twice before even starting a game. Lest you forget his broken ankle and had a hamstring injury before even starting a game.

Yeah, I'll keep talking... because I'm right. The problem with Rodgers isn't that he doesn't have the talent to throw the ball, but rather doesn't have the tallent in avoiding the sack. And when he does go down he doesn't know avoid injury. How many time this year did you see the pocket collapse around him and he gets taken down akwardly? I've seen it all year. The guy only sees half the field and has no pocket awareness. It's only a matter of time before he's taken down hard. He's been lucky so far. Favre has the uncanny ability to avoid getting crushed by falling backwards, away from the defender (while in mid throw) and usually does so while protecting his throwing hand. Ever watch the guy when he goes down? Rodgers aint got it... and yesTed Thompsonis an idiot.


You are wrong.
He had a broken bone in his foot in which he played an entire second half with.
His hamstring injury would not have prevented him from starting the next weeks game IF he were the starter. He was not, so instead of risking further injury the IR'd or benched him I can't recall exactly and signed a veteran, Craig Nall.

Nice try, but you fail.


Ok, so I got his injury wrong. True, it was a broken foot. but then you concede that he did have two serious injuries before even starting a game, which is my point. You said I had no basis whatsoever to say Rodgers was injury prone - weak with no ground to stand on. Three injuries already into week 4 of his NFL starting career is my basis. Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy gambled on Rodger's staying healthy. Not a lot of NFL team start the year with 3 QBs with no start time. Granted Rodgers had 3 years on the bench with some playing time... and probably was ready to start. However, to assume that Flynn and/or Brohm would be ready was just retarded. The Packers had opportunities to pick up a veteran QB; there were plenty available.

I'm just not onboard with how the Packers traded away Favre. Sorry, but it's my opinion that it was the wrong decision for a number of reasons. My feeling is... 10 years from now people will look back on the Ted Thompson era much like the Dan Devine era.
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