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Offline MintBaconDrivel  
#1 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:51:23 PM(UTC)
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GREEN BAY -- It was hardly a surprise when offensive tackle Derek Sherrod, defensive end Jerel Worthy and even running back DuJuan Harris were placed on the training-camp physically unable to perform list Thursday.

But defensive end Mike Neal?

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#2 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:10:43 PM(UTC)
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Probably wanted to give him enough time to clean out his system before the newly implemented HGH testing.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:14:07 PM(UTC)
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#4 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:18:33 PM(UTC)
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Justin Harrell Part deux..
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#5 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2013 9:00:55 PM(UTC)
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Important to note:

The active/PUP list is not the same as the in-season PUP.
As soon as a team clears a player on the active/PUP list, he is eligible to practice.
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#6 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2013 9:38:13 PM(UTC)
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B-B-B-BUST!


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#7 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2013 10:13:10 PM(UTC)
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Whats up with D. Jones on the list? I have never seen that classification before.


DuJuan Harris (RB) Declared Physically Unable to Perform (declared physically unable to perform).
J.C. Tretter (T) Declared Physically Unable to Perform (declared physically unable to perform).
Derek Sherrod (T) Declared Physically Unable to Perform (declared physically unable to perform).
Jamari Lattimore (LB) Declared Non-Football Illness (declared non-football illness).
Jerel Worthy (DE) Declared Physically Unable to Perform (declared physically unable to perform).
Mike Neal (DE) Declared Physically Unable to Perform (declared physically unable to perform).
Datone Jones (DE) Selection List Signing (selection list signing).
Sean Richardson (SAF) Declared Physically Unable to Perform (declared physically unable to perform).
Chaz Powell (DB) Declared Physically Unable to Perform (declared physically unable to perform).

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#8 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2013 11:21:38 PM(UTC)
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Gone for the season.

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#9 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2013 11:23:12 PM(UTC)
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Curtis Crabtree wrote:
When the Green Bay Packers hit the practice fields for the start of training camp they will be without a sizable group of players that have yet to be cleared to practice. According to Aaron Wilson of the Baltimore Sun, the Packers placed seven players on the PUP list Thursday prior to the start of...
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#10 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2013 1:26:07 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RajiRoar Go to Quoted Post
B-B-B-BUST!



It's semantic but I don't consider a guy whose career is cut short by injury to be a bust. It is unusual for rookie lineman to step right in and play at starter caliber, and Sherrod got hurt before developing. So, too, did Harrel..the injuries that shortened his career were not the one he had in college that caused him to drop from the first round.

If we just go with 1st and second rounders, here are the last 10 Packer drafts:

2012: Perry, Worthy, Heyward
2011: Sherrod, Cobb
2010: Bulaga, Neal
2009: Raji, Matthews
2008: Nelson, Brohm, Lee
2007: Harrel, Jackson
2006: Hawk, College, Jennings
2005: Rodgers, Collins, Murphy
2004: Carrol
2003; Barnett

Sherrod, Harrel and Murphy were all injured. Because of injuries, the book is out on last year's draft. Of the other 16, I see only Brohm, Jackson and Carrol as true busts. I would rank 6 of those as stars (Bold above). It gives me hope for Jones and Lacy as TT's track record is pretty decent overall.

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#11 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2013 3:44:56 AM(UTC)
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Gone for the season.

Hope Jolly steps up.


Nobody on this list is officially gone for the season they can be activated at any time before the season starts.
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#12 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2013 3:48:55 AM(UTC)
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Neal. Availability.

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#13 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2013 6:58:42 AM(UTC)
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My gut tells me it is precautionary and that we see him by next Tuesday practicing with the defense.
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Offline DoddPower  
#14 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2013 8:18:15 AM(UTC)
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Yeah, I'm not concerned until I read something to make me concerned. Any of those guys could be activated tomorrow, or next week, etc. At this point, it doesn't mean much more than the players missing some practice time. That's not ideal, but if it's just a little practice time, I don't think it's going to be a big deal, especially for non-rookies. Sherrod is the only one that concerns me, mostly because we've heard almost nothing positive about him. It seems like he may still be a year away from even attempting to contribute.
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#15 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2013 8:24:45 AM(UTC)
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I think Derek Sherrod might be closer than some think. He was trying to practice last season, but was stiff per reports.

Mike Neal seems to be made out of glass. I don't recall him being injured so I'm not sure what is up with him.
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#16 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2013 8:39:50 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
I think Derek Sherrod might be closer than some think. He was trying to practice last season, but was stiff per reports.

Mike Neal seems to be made out of glass. I don't recall him being injured so I'm not sure what is up with him.


I certainly hope your right about Sherrod. But being able to walk and attempting to practice is far different than actually being able to play, and a completely different thing from being able to be effective at all. I just haven't read much encouraging about Sherrod, but that may be because there simply hasn't been much detailed information about his situation period. That could mean he's very close, or he's had more setbacks and is still very far away. I'm not sure we can know one way, or another yet.

As for Neal, it could be something as simple as a minor ankle sprain, a slight bone bruise, a jammed finger, etc. Until there is more concrete evidence, getting worried about it is just speculation. He seemed to be healthy recently, so I'm going to hope that's he's very close to healthy and will return to the practice field sooner rather than later. At least until I read something to the contrary.
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#17 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2013 8:56:19 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: SINCITYCHEEZE Go to Quoted Post
Whats up with D. Jones on the list? I have never seen that classification before.


DuJuan Harris (RB) Declared Physically Unable to Perform (declared physically unable to perform).
J.C. Tretter (T) Declared Physically Unable to Perform (declared physically unable to perform).
Derek Sherrod (T) Declared Physically Unable to Perform (declared physically unable to perform).
Jamari Lattimore (LB) Declared Non-Football Illness (declared non-football illness).
Jerel Worthy (DE) Declared Physically Unable to Perform (declared physically unable to perform).
Mike Neal (DE) Declared Physically Unable to Perform (declared physically unable to perform).
Datone Jones (DE) Selection List Signing (selection list signing).
Sean Richardson (SAF) Declared Physically Unable to Perform (declared physically unable to perform).
Chaz Powell (DB) Declared Physically Unable to Perform (declared physically unable to perform).

^^^^^ from Lombardidave.com


Doesn't sound like an issue for Datone Jones:

Tom Silverstein wrote:
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Datone Jones starting with Raji in the middle of nickel package.


EDIT:

Well, at least Sherrod is "running."

Tom Silverstein wrote:
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Derrick Sherrod is running from drill to dri ll with his teammates but obviously the doctors didn't think he was ready to practice.


Another Edit. Damn, not encouraging:

Tom Silverstein wrote:
Here's McCarthy: injuries, DuJuan Harris has a knee that could be a week or two. Neal and Hayward are a couple weeks away. Lattimore and House illness. Powell has a foot.


Looks like it's going to be another long season injury wise.
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#18 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2013 9:01:26 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884 Go to Quoted Post


2012: Perry, Worthy, Heyward
2011: Sherrod, Cobb
2010: Bulaga, Neal
2009: Raji, Matthews
2008: Nelson, Brohm, Lee
2007: Harrel, Jackson
2006: Hawk, College, Jennings
2005: Rodgers, Collins, Murphy
2004: Carrol
2003; Barnett





IMO

Bust:
-Carrol
-Murphy
-Harrell
-Brohm
-Lee
-Perry
-Worthy
-Neal

Some of those guys can still move out of this category, but based purely off what they have given so far, this is where they are.

Solid:
-College
-Jackson
-Nelson (had an amazing 2011, not much else)

Great:
-Barnett
-Rodgers
-Collins
-Jennings
-Hawk (skill-wise he's not great, but he has been producing for this team a lot longer than most, compare him to most of our other picks)
-Raji
-Matthews
-Bulaga
-Cobb
-Heyward


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#19 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2013 9:03:19 AM(UTC)
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You will not address Daryn Colledge as "College". You show him respect that he deserves! The Packers haven't been back to the Super Bowl since his departure. That is all you need to know about him.
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#20 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2013 9:41:40 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
You will not address Daryn Colledge as "College". You show him respect that he deserves! The Packers haven't been back to the Super Bowl since his departure. That is all you need to know about him.


Thank you Ms. Colledge,

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#21 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2013 10:22:12 AM(UTC)
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Sherrod definitely much further along when he was able to go through some of the drill work in the OTAs. Interested to see how he feels tomorrow. He looked very good in the conditioning work yesterday. He’s not to the point where all linemen have to be able to torque and lean on people. Those things are hard to emulate in a rehab process.
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#22 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2013 11:05:29 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
You will not address Daryn Colledge as "College". You show him respect that he deserves! The Packers haven't been back to the Super Bowl since his departure. That is all you need to know about him.


Mr. Colledge is so good that he couldn't improve the Cardinals' o-line.


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#23 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2013 11:07:37 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Wade Go to Quoted Post
Mr. Colledge is so good that he couldn't improve the Cardinals' o-line.




When you have a revolving door at QB the OL doesn't matter at all. And he couldn't fill all five holes with just being one incredibly gifted OL himself.
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#24 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2013 11:10:36 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
When you have a revolving door at QB the OL doesn't matter at all. And he couldn't fill all five holes with just being one incredibly gifted OL himself.


All I can say is Mrs. C must have something on you equivalent to what Campen must have on Thompson/McCarthy?

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#25 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2013 2:48:02 PM(UTC)
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“It’s just one of those things where you train, you train, you train; I think everybody noticed a noticeable difference in my size,” Neal said. “I’ve lost a little bit of weight. I’m doing a little more cutting, so for me to have some type of problem with my ab is nothing out of the norm. They realized it. When I came back I told them what it is and they knew what it was before I got back and told me to take my time and easy your way back into it. Don’t push anything. There’s a long season ahead of you. That’s where we are right now. I’m not even looking at it as a major setback. I’m running around. I’m walking. I feel fine.”
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