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Offline MintBaconDrivel  
#1 Posted : Sunday, July 28, 2013 9:47:02 PM(UTC)
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GREEN BAY — Mike McCarthy knew exactly where all the chippiness came from in practice Sunday.

"I'm sure it had something to do with the head coach's speech the other night," the Green Bay Packers coach said before rolling his eyes and making the kind of face he probably sees from his young daughters from time to time.

In reality, while McCarthy didn't sound worried and didn't read his players the riot act after practice, the coach was bothered by the number of times his guys crossed the line in the first padded practice of training camp — even though he knew some instances were unavoidable because of the increased intensity that comes with being in pads.

"The message I had for the team after practice was I thought the adrenaline was very high and I thought the discipline level was very low," McCarthy said, sharing with reporters what he'd told his team in the post-practice huddle 15 minutes earlier. "I think you get into that usually when you put the pads on for the first time. So it was great to get that competitive environment established.

"I thought they definitely practiced with an edge. We had too much extracurricular activities going on. That falls under your category of 'player safety.' We have to practice better together, something that you don't do every night. This is a normal progression you go through every year in training camp. But I thought our guys came out on the high side of playing with an edge and that's exactly what we want."

It started early on in the first 11-on-11 period, when rookie inside linebacker Sam Barrington came up and whacked wide receiver Jeremy Ross on a pass in the right flat, knocking Ross to the turf rather than wrapping him up and keeping him off the ground. That incurred the wrath of McCarthy, who gave Barrington an earful. Inside linebackers coach Winston Moss then played the good cop and put his arm around Barrington and spoke to him.

There were a number of other instances where players wound up on the ground, including when one of the defensive linemen walloped wide receiver Tyrone Walker from behind on a pass across the middle and a skirmish involving defensive end Johnny Jolly that escalated briefly. Jolly and guard Josh Sitton were then seen jawing at each other.

"That's the balance you look for every year, the balance I think you have to just really work at," McCarthy said. "We were definitely on the high end today, but we'll be all right."

Guard T.J. Lang said McCarthy made his position known without overdoing it.

"He said something after practice. It didn't sound like he was too upset with us," Lang said. "I think that's just what you've got to expect the first day of pads when you've got 90 guys out there competing for a few spots. That stuff's going to happen, guys are going to get hit and we just have to make sure that we're taking care of our guys.

"You love the physicality, you love the toughness, but at the same time you don't want to be tackling guys or pushing guys down. That could cause other injuries if a guy falls in to somebody else's legs. I'm sure we'll look at it tonight as a group and try to get it fixed and come back out on the field on Tuesday."
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#2 Posted : Sunday, July 28, 2013 10:40:42 PM(UTC)
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Our defense NEEDS a little attitude.
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#3 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 12:52:38 AM(UTC)
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Getting chippy with it? ... well if they're doing musical timeouts,
at least now I know what music they'll be playing to break up fights.

Getting chippy with it
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Getting chippy with it


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#4 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 11:01:30 AM(UTC)
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I think a player or two broke man code out there by hitting on routes but the fighting during drills or 1 on 1s sounds good to me.

Mike will reign it in as needed. We don't need these to lead to creating penalties out on the field, but if it gives us a better edge going into the season and can be sustained, that is what it is all about.
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Offline DoddPower  
#5 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 12:32:59 PM(UTC)
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I love that Jolly was sparring with Sitton. I'm sure they are cool, but that is the type of energy Jolly brings. A "no one is going to f*ck with me" type of attitude. Frankly, I haven't seen that type of attitude in awhile. I'm not sure about Jolly's physical ability anymore, but I know he brings an energy to the field that the Packers defense could use. I also remember him motioning for the crowd to cheer often, which I also liked. That mentality can be very important during the war that is an NFL game. Sometimes (if not often), a defense needs players that are just pissed off, and show it on the field.
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#6 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 12:39:19 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DoddPower Go to Quoted Post
I love that Jolly was sparring with Sitton. I'm sure they are cool, but that is the type of energy Jolly brings. A "no one is going to f*ck with me" type of attitude. Frankly, I haven't seen that type of attitude in awhile. I'm not sure about Jolly's physical ability anymore, but I know he brings an energy to the field that the Packers defense could use. I also remember him motioning for the crowd to cheer often, which I also liked. That mentality can be very important during the war that is an NFL game. Sometimes (if not often), a defense needs players that are just pissed off, and show it on the field.


One of the reasons I admire Jack Lambert's work. I envision him as someone who was pissed off at the world and everyone in for about 60 minutes a week.
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#7 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 12:42:57 PM(UTC)
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Yes, I remember before the season that I said that I wanted more "jerks" on the team... "nice jerks". I am pleased with our recent selections.
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Offline DoddPower  
#8 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 12:43:28 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
One of the reasons I admire Jack Lambert's work. I envision him as someone who was pissed off at the world and everyone in for about 60 minutes a week.


Sometimes I feel as if the Packers are too measured and disciplined. That's obviously a good thing most of the time in almost all professions, but the NFL is a little different. Sometimes it's very useful to have someone that is pissed off and angry, and such can be galvanizing for a team. I understand it will resort in some missed assignments and penalties, but if it keeps up the energy level up and the intensity of the defense high, I'm OK with that . . . occasionally.
Offline Pack93z  
#9 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 12:44:17 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
One of the reasons I admire Jack Lambert's work. I envision him as someone who was pissed off at the world and everyone in for about 60 minutes a week.


Wayne Simmons always comes to mind in conversations like that.. but I think that guy might have been perpetually pissed off, lol.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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