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Offline beast  
#1 Posted : Monday, August 19, 2013 7:10:53 PM(UTC)
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PUP: OT Sherrod, DL Worthy, OL Tretter, S Richardson

IR: OT Bulaga
Bulaga might be put on the designated to return list but I wouldn’t count on it.


23 on Offense
QB (2): Rodgers, Harrell (2)
RB (4): Lacy, Franklin, Harris, Green (6)
FB (1): Kuhn (7)
TE (4): Finley, Mulligan, Quarless, Taylor (11)
WR (5): Nelson, Cobb, Jones, Boykins, Ross (16)
OT (3): Bakhtiari, Barclay, Newhouse (19)
OG (2): Sitton, Lang (21)
OC (2): D-Smith, Van Roten (23)

27 on Defense
NT (3): Raji, Pickett, Jolly (3)
DE (5): Jones, Wilson, Daniels, Neal, Boyd (8)
OLB (4): Matthews, Perry, Mulumba, Palmer (12)
ILB (5): Hawk, Jones, Francois, Manning, Barrington (17)
CB (6): Williams, Shields, Haywards, Hyde, House, Bush (23)
S (4): Burnett, McMillian, Jennings, Banjo (27)

3 on ST
ST (3): Crosby, Masthay, Goode (3)


I’d prefer Thunder (with Lacy and Starks) and Lightning (with Harris and Franklin) but I get this feeling the Packers might just be ready to move on from Starks and go with Green instead.

One of the ILB probably going to be cut, I picked Lattimore.

I REALLY dislike being that short on the OL, and honestly don't think the Packers would go that short for long but other positions have eanred it more IMO.

Just feel like Boyd has shown enough potential to stick even thought he might be the 8th DL, and Palmer has flash some potential and could help on STs coverage.

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Offline play2win  
#2 Posted : Monday, August 19, 2013 7:31:01 PM(UTC)
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Nice.

I would replace Harrell, Green, Ross and Taylor with Young, Starks, White and Stoneburner. Palmer goes PS and add Patrick Lewis at C/G.

Manning and Kuhn look to be hanging on for dear life. Maybe Moses sticks?

Banjo shows great potential.

Thank God we have two more games to see what shakes out before the regular season. Lots left to decide.
Offline DakotaT  
#3 Posted : Monday, August 19, 2013 7:46:08 PM(UTC)
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I think we need to draft a real fullback. Or else line Raji up back there more often. I know Kuhn is a fan favorite and all, but I'm sick to death of that BS short handoff to him that always stuffed, and Kuhn getting stoned by a linebacker on third and short. Halfback should be Lacy, Harris, Franklin and after that, I don't care. Green and Starks have disappointed. The rest of that list is pretty spot on. It is pretty unusual to keep 8 Dlineman, but what a solid rotation we will have.
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#4 Posted : Monday, August 19, 2013 8:56:07 PM(UTC)
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One thing with Palmer is he can likely be kept on the practice squad (probably inactive on game days anyway) and open up a spot for another position.

I think Ross is a good bet to make the team, he gets pulled in preseason games when the 2s come off the field and they give him starter reps on returns and pull him off that when the back ups go in. I don't think Cobb will be primary returner this year especially since he's dealing with that arm injury.
Offline Gaycandybacon  
#5 Posted : Monday, August 19, 2013 11:17:19 PM(UTC)
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Datko looked pretty good vs the Rams. Didn't realize how big the guy was.

This is my 53

QB:(2)
1.Aaron Rodgers
2.Vince Young

FB:(3)
1.John Kuhn

RB:(7)
1.Eddie Lacy
2.Dujuan Harris
3.Johnathan Franklin
4.Alex Green

TE:(11)
1.Jermichael Finley
2.Andrew Quarless
3.D.J. Williams
4.Matthew Mulligan

WR:(16)
1.James Jones
2.Jordy Nelson
3.Randall Cobb
4.Jarrett Boykin
5.Jeremy Ross

OT:(20)
1.David Bakhtiari
2.Don Barclay
3.Marshall Newhouse
4.Andrew Datko

OG:(23)
1.Josh Sitton
2.T.J Lang
3.Lane Taylor

C:(25)
1.EDS
2.Greg Van Roten

NT:(26)
1.Ryan Pickett

DE:(32)
1.B.J. Raji
2.Datone Jones
3.Mike Neal
4.Mike Daniels
5.C.J. Wilson
6.Johnny Jolly

MLB:(37)
1.Brad Jones
2.A.J. Hawk
3.Robert Francois
4.Terrell Manning
5.Sam Barrington

OLB:(41)
1.Clay Matthews
2.Nick Perry
3.Nate Palmer
4.Andy Mulumba

CB:(47)
1.Tramon Williams
2.Sam Shields
3.Casey Hayward
4.Micah Hyde
5.Davon House
6.Jarrett Bush

S:(50)
1.Morgan Burnett
2.M.J. Jennings
3.Jeron McMillian

ST:(53)
1.Tim Masthay
2.Mason Crosby
3.Brett Goode

PUP:
1.Derrick Sherrod
2.Charles Johnson
3.Jerel Worthy

IR:
1.Brian Bulaga
2.J.C. Tretter
3.Richardson

PS:
1.B.J Coleman
2.Tyrone Walker
3.Kevin Dorsey
4.Brandon Bostick
5.Patrick Lewis
6.Josh Boyd
7.Chris Banjo
8.James Nixon

My 53 roster watch list:
1.Josh Boyd
2.Brandon Bostick
3.Chris Banjo
4.Tyrone Walker


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Offline Dulak  
#6 Posted : Monday, August 19, 2013 11:40:20 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
Nice.

I would replace Harrell, Green, Ross and Taylor with Young, Starks, White and Stoneburner. Palmer goes PS and add Patrick Lewis at C/G.

Manning and Kuhn look to be hanging on for dear life. Maybe Moses sticks?

Banjo shows great potential.

Thank God we have two more games to see what shakes out before the regular season. Lots left to decide.


I do like the above guys better; but not sure if its for personal reasons than whom I Actually think will get picked. Not sure about white thou ... too hard to tell at that position. I could potentially see us cutting Kuhn at some point; just not sure if it will be this year; agree with the person that said - why don't we put someone else back there that can block or be a run blocker as we did with raji )maybe mulligan?

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 5:23:09 AM(UTC)
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The lists are pretty good. I started to put one together, yet again, and decided to wait. Barring injury there is only about 5-6 positions that are up for grabs.

Offense:
Do they keep a FB? (No) Does the extra player go to a 5th RB, 6th WR or 5th TE? (TE)
Young is behind Harrell right now. He has 2 weeks to show he is the better QB. a Since they signed him I thought he would. Right now I am leaning toward Harrell hanging on to the #2 although I have no visible proof.
Because so may players can line up a different positions they only keep 8 OLmen and Sherrod on the PUP to begin the season.

Defense:

They will have 7 DLmen, 9 LBers and 9 DBs

CJ Wilson will be competing not only against Jolly, Neal and Boyd on the line, he will be competing against LBers Barrington, Palmer and Mulumba and DB Banjo. It will be interesting so see who stays and who gets picked up by other teams.
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Offline PackerTraxx  
#8 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:47:58 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon Go to Quoted Post
Datko looked pretty good vs the Rams. Didn't realize how big the guy was.






Man, I Datko could come around that would be huge.
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Offline beast  
#9 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:33:57 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
One thing with Palmer is he can likely be kept on the practice squad (probably inactive on game days anyway) and open up a spot for another position.


I agree he's probably could be kept on the PS.
But I thinking he looked like he's growing, improved and starting to flash, and thought about Newhouse as a rookie.
Newhouse looked HORRIBLE at first as a rookie in traing camp, but improved a lot and was kept (which surprised a number of fans includingly myself).

I was thinking Palmer might be in the same boat of being a draft pick, having very raw potential and showing improvment so he's kept. Plus if needed, I thought he might be decent on STs coverage wise if other get hurt.

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Offline beast  
#10 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:38:34 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
It is pretty unusual to keep 8 Dlineman, but what a solid rotation we will have.


I agree it's very unusually for a 3-4 to keep 8 DL, but I think as a group, they have looked better than other groups and deserve the thought of that possiblity at the very least.

Also remember that Raji, Pickett, Jolly, Neal and Wilson are all in contract years. So they'd only be keeping 3 DL players (plus Worthy on PUP/IR) that currently have a contract for the Packers next year. And then the Packers will probably resign 3 or 4 of the contract year guys... but which ones is still unclear.
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Offline Gaycandybacon  
#11 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:24:02 AM(UTC)
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The more Lineman we have on the 53 imo the better.

Imo we keep 9 O-Lineman, 7 D-Lineman.

On my 53 I pretty much had at least 1 backup on each position along the offensive line for their respective positions.

Newhouse and Datko will backup Bak and Barclay.

Taylor will backup Sitton and Lang

and GVR will back up EDS

Lets not forget if there is several offensive lineman geting hurt GVR and Barclay's versatility can be pluged into G.

But the point is having at least 1 backup will limit guys from being shuffled around like in years past.

Obviously if we keep at least 7 on the D-Line we should be pretty damn healthy if we have a quote on quote healthy rotation.
Offline macbob  
#12 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 5:59:13 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon Go to Quoted Post
Datko looked pretty good vs the Rams. Didn't realize how big the guy was.

This is my 53

QB:(2)
1.Aaron Rodgers
2.Vince Young

FB:(3)
1.John Kuhn

RB:(7)
1.Eddie Lacy
2.Dujuan Harris
3.Johnathan Franklin
4.Alex Green

TE:(11)
1.Jermichael Finley
2.Andrew Quarless
3.D.J. Williams
4.Matthew Mulligan

WR:(16)
1.James Jones
2.Jordy Nelson
3.Randall Cobb
4.Jarrett Boykin
5.Jeremy Ross

OT:(20)
1.David Bakhtiari
2.Don Barclay
3.Marshall Newhouse
4.Andrew Datko

OG:(23)
1.Josh Sitton
2.T.J Lang
3.Lane Taylor

C:(25)
1.EDS
2.Greg Van Roten

NT:(26)
1.Ryan Pickett

DE:(32)
1.B.J. Raji
2.Datone Jones
3.Mike Neal
4.Mike Daniels
5.C.J. Wilson
6.Johnny Jolly

MLB:(37)
1.Brad Jones
2.A.J. Hawk
3.Robert Francois
4.Terrell Manning
5.Sam Barrington

OLB:(41)
1.Clay Matthews
2.Nick Perry
3.Nate Palmer
4.Andy Mulumba

CB:(47)
1.Tramon Williams
2.Sam Shields
3.Casey Hayward
4.Micah Hyde
5.Davon House
6.Jarrett Bush

S:(50)
1.Morgan Burnett
2.M.J. Jennings
3.Jeron McMillian

ST:(53)
1.Tim Masthay
2.Mason Crosby
3.Brett Goode

PUP:
1.Derrick Sherrod
2.Charles Johnson
3.Jerel Worthy

IR:
1.Brian Bulaga
2.J.C. Tretter
3.Richardson

PS:
1.B.J Coleman
2.Tyrone Walker
3.Kevin Dorsey
4.Brandon Bostick
5.Patrick Lewis
6.Josh Boyd
7.Chris Banjo
8.James Nixon

My 53 roster watch list:
1.Josh Boyd
2.Brandon Bostick
3.Chris Banjo
4.Tyrone Walker




I was going to make a list, but couldn't come up with anything different overall. I like this list slightly better than the first list--more balanced offense/defense #s (25/25 vs 23/27), more OL depth.

A couple of changes I would have considered: Keeping Harrell as #3 QB (at least early in the season) in place of Green (#4 HB), or going with Starks instead of Green at #4 HB. I'm just not quite comfortable yet with Young as the only backup QB on the roster.
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Offline DakotaT  
#13 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 6:10:11 PM(UTC)
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When it comes down to O-lineman vs D-lineman, I hope we keep the best football players and not go by a set number. Datko and Taylor can go to the practice squad without being stolen from us, but we do not have that luxury with Boyd or Jolly, Boyd would be scooped and Jolly is ineligible for the practice squad.
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 6:44:26 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: macbob Go to Quoted Post
I was going to make a list, but couldn't come up with anything different overall. I like this list slightly better than the first list--more balanced offense/defense #s (25/25 vs 23/27), more OL depth.

A couple of changes I would have considered: Keeping Harrell as #3 QB (at least early in the season) in place of Green (#4 HB), or going with Starks instead of Green at #4 HB. I'm just not quite comfortable yet with Young as the only backup QB on the roster.



My thoughts on Young/Harrell and Green/Starks:

It's gonna be against Harrell and Young. Harrell is in the lead as of right now. Coleman imo is out of the equation. We definitely will put Coleman on the PS. He improved as a player for me on Saturday.

I think Young will be better for us in the long Haul this season, even though Harrell knows this system better.

It's underrated to think Young can't pick up the offense, he has steadily gotten better these past 2 weeks, and a solid 4 weeks of work can prepare him to backup Arod. Add to the fact that Aaron Rodgers is the QB, not Vince Young. So he'll have a full 16 games to learn other Arod, and maybe go somewhere else next year.

He has better athletic ability than Harrell and a better arm. The jail is out on both the QBs accuracy, but they both aren't anywhere greater than eachother in hitting their targets 100% of the time.

I'd rather add depth honestly to other positions than QB to keep Harrell on the roster. Plus we can always nab Coleman off the PS to put on the 53 if need be.

It's a toss up for Green and Starks. But Green's gotta get the edge. He has been more reliable than Starks, and is more Serviceable/Durable than Starks. He's also a lot better catching back and Pass blocking back than Starks.

I wouldn't mind if Starks stayed with us, but I wouldn't like it if Green got the boot.
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 6:47:54 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
When it comes down to O-lineman vs D-lineman, I hope we keep the best football players and not go by a set number. Datko and Taylor can go to the practice squad without being stolen from us, but we do not have that luxury with Boyd or Jolly, Boyd would be scooped and Jolly is ineligible for the practice squad.


That's why C.J. Wilson is expendable, hell maybe even Ryan Pickett(doubt it though).

We either keep all that talent or move a Vet.
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