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wpr  
#1 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 5:41:49 AM(UTC)
JSOnline said:
For there to be a Super Bowl for Patrick Lewis and Greg Van Roten, first there must be the Green Bay Packers’ exhibition finale Thursday night against the Kansas City Chiefs at Arrowhead Stadium.


Lewis goes to PS this year and he could bump GVR next year.
play2win  
#2 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 8:29:13 AM(UTC)
I have both players being kept on the 53.

I'll add that Lane Taylor also makes it. We should be keeping 9 OL this year, as the battles are indeed won in the trenches. We are looking to emphasize the running game. All the more reason to bring the beef!
buckeyepackfan  
#3 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:06:07 AM(UTC)
Today I would say Van Roten would win the spot.

After tonights game that could change, that is how close this competition is.

With the way other positions are panning out, I see The Packers keeping 8 O-lineman at the most, they might even try to start the year with 7.

They keep 8 and I will give the nod to Van Roten as #7, then there will be a battle between Lewis, Taylor, Datko, Gerhart, and Hughs for the 8th spot. Lewis would be my choice for #8.

With Ted keeping 2 more on the PS.

I know its a risk cutting these guys and hoping they clear waivers, but it has came time where tough decision need to be made, and I really don't think any that are cut will have any problem clearing waivers, these guys are much more valuable to The Packers than any other team.

Been fun trying to figure this all out, Saturday can't come soon enough.
wpr  
#4 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:30:18 AM(UTC)
7 linemen seems like it would be too few. That is only 2 backups. Granted most of them can play more than one position but with the injury history in GB that would make me very nervous. I can not count on anyone being on the PS 3 weeks into the season.
DarkaneRules  
#5 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:44:03 AM(UTC)
I think both make it as well. When Sherrod comes back, the discussion gets more interesting.
Zero2Cool  
#6 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:47:13 AM(UTC)
DarkaneRules said: Go to Quoted Post
I think both make it as well. When Sherrod comes back, the discussion gets more interesting.


Derek Sherrod comes back game 8 and saves the season by solidifying the LT position which hampered the Packers to that point. SUPER BOWL BABY!!
buckeyepackfan  
#7 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:48:52 AM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
7 linemen seems like it would be too few. That is only 2 backups. Granted most of them can play more than one position but with the injury history in GB that would make me very nervous. I can not count on anyone being on the PS 3 weeks into the season.


The Packers started last year with 7, usually it is 8, this really comes down to how many Defensive players and TE's They decide to keep.

Some reports have The Packers keeping 10 db's, which given the injury situation, that doesn't seem to far fetched.
6d-lineman, 9 lbr's, 10 db's............................25

3 sp team.......................................................03

2 qb's. 5 rb's/fb,5 wr's,5 te's..........................17

That would leave room for 8o-lineman...........08

Problem being, I see 7 d-lineman being kept, but only 4 te's, that still leaves room for 8.

Packers decide to go with 10 lbr's to start, that might force them to keep only 7 o-linemen to begin the season.

C'mon Saturday!!!!
wpr  
#8 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:58:59 AM(UTC)
buckeyepackfan said: Go to Quoted Post
The Packers started last year with 7, usually it is 8, this really comes down to how many Defensive players and TE's They decide to keep.

Some reports have The Packers keeping 10 db's, which given the injury situation, that doesn't seem to far fetched.
6d-lineman, 9 lbr's, 10 db's............................25

3 sp team.......................................................03

2 qb's. 5 rb's/fb,5 wr's,5 te's..........................17

That would leave room for 8o-lineman...........08

Problem being, I see 7 d-lineman being kept, but only 4 te's, that still leaves room for 8.

Packers decide to go with 10 lbr's to start, that might force them to keep only 7 o-linemen to begin the season.

C'mon Saturday!!!!


I understand. Sherrod is a wild card in the whole issue but I think they may feel more comfortable if they have 8.
QCHuskerFan  
#9 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:08:29 PM(UTC)
Sherrod coming back to help. Hehehehehehehehehe.

Oh. You weren't making a joke? My bad. Just thought it was hilarious!
wpr  
#10 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:32:08 PM(UTC)
QCHuskerFan said: Go to Quoted Post
Sherrod coming back to help. Hehehehehehehehehe.

Oh. You weren't making a joke? My bad. Just thought it was hilarious!


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steveishere  
#11 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:02:35 PM(UTC)
With the quality of the back ups right now I don't really see them keeping 8 or 9 guys. They only have 1 back up right now (Newhouse/Barclay) with any proven ability. The rest of the guys most likely could make it to the practice squad and even if they didn't wouldn't be hard to replace with just a street guy. I don't think GVR or Lewis would really be a big deal to lose. So they probably keep the 1 back up and maybe 1 more but the rest they can just keep on the PS and call up if needed (and save a roster spot). For all we know Ted might even snatch up a guy that gets released from another team.
nerdmann  
#12 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:49:46 PM(UTC)
steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
With the quality of the back ups right now I don't really see them keeping 8 or 9 guys. They only have 1 back up right now (Newhouse/Barclay) with any proven ability. The rest of the guys most likely could make it to the practice squad and even if they didn't wouldn't be hard to replace with just a street guy. I don't think GVR or Lewis would really be a big deal to lose. So they probably keep the 1 back up and maybe 1 more but the rest they can just keep on the PS and call up if needed (and save a roster spot). For all we know Ted might even snatch up a guy that gets released from another team.


Ted will definitely snatch a guy or two.

Ted's philosophy is that you can get by on the Oline with "just guys." Stick them in there and then get superstars at the "skill" positions.
buckeyepackfan  
#13 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:22:37 PM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Ted will definitely snatch a guy or two.

Ted's philosophy is that you can get by on the Oline with "just guys." Stick them in there and then get superstars at the "skill" positions.


2010.. Bryan Bulaga 1st rnd, 2011...Derrick Sherard 1st rnd.....2009 TJ Lang 4th rnd
2008 Giacoma(3rd or 4th)

2012 Datko and Coleman in the 7th rnd(only offenseive players drafted)

2013 Bahkatari and Tretter both 4th rnd picks

I'm sure if Ted could have read the tea leaves and knew that Bulaga and Sherrard were going to get injured he would have spent those picks on other players.

Facts are, A. Rodgers is the only "skilled" position player Ted has used a #1 pick on.

The fact that The Packers "skilled" position players were mostly drafted in rnds 2,3 and 4 just shows how much work that goes into finding quality players in the later rnds.

Once again the FACTS get in the way of your take on Teds philosophy !!!
nerdmann  
#14 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:57:13 PM(UTC)
buckeyepackfan said: Go to Quoted Post
2010.. Bryan Bulaga 1st rnd, 2011...Derrick Sherard 1st rnd.....2009 TJ Lang 4th rnd
2008 Giacoma(3rd or 4th)

2012 Datko and Coleman in the 7th rnd(only offenseive players drafted)

2013 Bahkatari and Tretter both 4th rnd picks

I'm sure if Ted could have read the tea leaves and knew that Bulaga and Sherrard were going to get injured he would have spent those picks on other players.

Facts are, A. Rodgers is the only "skilled" position player Ted has used a #1 pick on.

The fact that The Packers "skilled" position players were mostly drafted in rnds 2,3 and 4 just shows how much work that goes into finding quality players in the later rnds.

Once again the FACTS get in the way of your take on Teds philosophy !!!


You all right dude? LOL

Yeah man. Ted has invested TWO 1sts in the Oline. But he did so only after rebuilding the rest of the team. First thing he did when he took over was get rid of Wahle and Rivera. Now he is able to address the line to some degree. I would also note that he's addressing the T positions first. He'll probably get a viable C next.
buckeyepackfan  
#15 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 3:05:02 PM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
You all right dude? LOL

Yeah man. Ted has invested TWO 1sts in the Oline. But he did so only after rebuilding the rest of the team. First thing he did when he took over was get rid of Wahle and Rivera. Now he is able to address the line to some degree. I would also note that he's addressing the T positions first. He'll probably get a viable C next.


And as you argued over and over again, Ted had NO OTHER CHOICE, but to do so.

Don't state "Ted's philosophy is that you can get by on the Oline with "just guys." Stick them in there and then get superstars at the "skill" positions." Then try and backtrack.
steveishere  
#16 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 3:06:13 PM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
You all right dude? LOL

Yeah man. Ted has invested TWO 1sts in the Oline. But he did so only after rebuilding the rest of the team. First thing he did when he took over was get rid of Wahle and Rivera. Now he is able to address the line to some degree. I would also note that he's addressing the T positions first. He'll probably get a viable C next.


Well when he first got here he didn't have to get any T cause he had Clifton and Tausch. He got an all-pro quality guard in Sitton and used a 2nd on College. For the most part injuries are what has screwed up the offensive line not drafting (or supposed lack thereof).
wpr  
#17 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 3:19:09 PM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
You all right dude? LOL

Yeah man. Ted has invested TWO 1sts in the Oline. But he did so only after rebuilding the rest of the team. First thing he did when he took over was get rid of Wahle and Rivera. Now he is able to address the line to some degree. I would also note that he's addressing the T positions first. He'll probably get a viable C next.


I think you conveniently forget that GB was in cap hell when Ted took over. There was no way for him to compete with the high market prices the two guys got even if he had wanted to. If I recall it worked out for the best that he did not retain either one of them. They were not worth the money they got over their entire contracts. So one can say that was genius on Ted's part (even if it was by default.) after all that is how we landed Mrs Colledge! =d>
nerdmann  
#18 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 3:25:40 PM(UTC)
steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
Well when he first got here he didn't have to get any T cause he had Clifton and Tausch. He got an all-pro quality guard in Sitton and used a 2nd on College. For the most part injuries are what has screwed up the offensive line not drafting (or supposed lack thereof).


Didn't have to get a QB either.
Zero2Cool  
#19 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 3:30:01 PM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Didn't have to get a QB either.


Because no GM thinks he has to replace his 36 year old starter?? I don't get your logic here. He most certainly had to get a QB.
steveishere  
#20 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 4:23:19 PM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Didn't have to get a QB either.


Were any of the lineman contemplating retirement? Would any lineman he drafted have been the best draft pick in the league since 2005? Didn't think so. Bad example.
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