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Offline Dulak  
#16 Posted : Monday, September 9, 2013 5:33:01 AM(UTC)

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I agree that this call can't be an excuse, but damn, the refs should get this stuff right. The Packers aren't going to win against the 49'ers and a few screw ups by the refs.

So we have to let it go about the refs calls - yet they are paid what 179,000 dollars a year to make accurate decisions.

I EXPECT them to get it right; else I sure could use the money and would happily take a ref job.

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#17 Posted : Monday, September 9, 2013 5:44:41 AM(UTC)

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Not knowing the rules is what bothers me the most. I can overlook a bad call or a missed call here and there. There is a lot going on and yes they refs are supposed to be professionals there is a lot going on and things get messed up. Many of them are subjective and we will not all see them the same way anyway. The thing is they did not mess this one up, the call anyway. They got that part right but the enforcement is not a subjective thing. The rules call for a very specific set of enforcement on plays like this and they got it wrong.

The call did not affect the outcome of the game other than perhaps a tiny insignificant amount which should not have mattered but the fact that they couldn't get the enforcement (not the call) right is the thing that upsets me the most, and to be totally honest it doesn't really bother me much.

The Packers had their chance and got beat by the 49ers yesterday, not by the refs. Penalties are such a fickle part of the game. If we beat a team and their fans complain about the refs call them whining cry babies who should get over it. We will deny calls missed or, if they are blatant screw ups we claim they should have been good enough to overcome it. On the other hand, let one small mix up by the refs cause a minor inconvenience to our team and right those same fans telling the other teams fans to deal with it are screaming bloody murder and demanding swift and severe retribution on the perpetrators because we got jobbed by the refs again. I find it funny that very few fans ever see the calls the refs missed that would have gone against their team but let them miss just one that would have gone in our favor and all of a sudden they are blind.

Not all people complaining about the call necessarily fall into this category and that includes many of you here. Most of you have acknowledged that the call was not the reason we lost, but then why even mention it? It makes us seem just like those whining crybaby fans of other teams we complain about.

Offline musccy  
#18 Posted : Monday, September 9, 2013 5:50:10 AM(UTC)

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- If Mike McCarthy accepted the penalty like he should have, there never would have been a play to debate.
- Clay debatably should have been ejected for his late hit
- Clay debatably should have been ejected for punching Staley
- Staley's retaliation was a gift call to the Packers after everything was clearly initiated by Clay.
- The refs should not have replayed the down (but did any of us know that prior to Pereira chiming in?)

So there were 5 screw ups I can count in that sequence. 3 worked in the Packers favor, the most egregious was self-inflicted, but the one that we cry to the heavens about is the one error that only happened due to the preceding four errors we're all ignoring. [duh]
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#19 Posted : Monday, September 9, 2013 5:57:31 AM(UTC)

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If you say Clay should have been ejected, why don't you own up to the 49ers player who hit Sam Shields during the skirmish? You're overcompensating against the Packers unnecessarily.

No one should have been ejected. It's football. A mans game and the 49ers were the more skilled man Sunday.
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#20 Posted : Monday, September 9, 2013 6:22:48 AM(UTC)

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Mike McCarthy's decision to accept, and Clay's stupid macho act trumped anything the refs did, and were the reason the refs were even in a position to get the call wrong. A call that neither Joe Buck, Tory Aikman, and if we are honest, 90-some% of us probably didn't know was the wrong call. Had Clay not started this crap, there wouldn't have been a skirmish for a packer to get punched anyway.

Pissing and moaning about this call makes us look like a bunch of whining babies. The Pack gave up 500 yards for the 2nd straight game to the 49'ers, yet THIS is the focus on PFT and these boards after the game?!?
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#21 Posted : Monday, September 9, 2013 6:41:56 AM(UTC)

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IMO, the refs messed up prior to the procedural on this call. Unless there is an angle that hasn't been shown yet.. Staley did nothing incorrect to draw an Unsportsmanlike.. if anything, Matthews is lucky that he didn't pick that up as well with his couple swings. Amazes me every time that a players tries to throw a punch at a facemask.

Matthews made a mistake in timing of an aggressive hit.. I get he wanted to be aggressive and for most of the game, it was beautifully done. Just the timing of that hit, both in terms of game situation and play situation. Although I think even in bounce that probably draws a flag.
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Offline nerdmann  
#22 Posted : Monday, September 9, 2013 9:45:28 AM(UTC)

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Mike was coaching scared. Never should have taken that penalty.

Let them go for it on 4th and 1.
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