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Offline PackFanWithTwins  
#26 Posted : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 8:30:56 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: sschind Go to Quoted Post
I agree 100% on the read option but as I have said in a few other posts I don't really think we had much of a choice. The way we were gashed last year Mike McCarthy had no other options than to go all out to shut it down. He couldn't afford to letthe 49ers beat him with it again. IMO he did shut it down pretty well.

The problem is that Harbaugh knew this as well and he let us come at the RO with all guns blazing and he just took whatever we left him. I do not see this being a factor in any other games this season as I don't think it will nearly as much of a point of contention that it was with the 49ers. I also don't think it would have been such a big deal had the schedule had us playing the 49ers several weeks later. I'll bet Harbaugh was salivating when he saw he opened up with the Packers. He was holding all the cards. All he had to do was sit back and see how Mike McCarthy was going to go all in.



I think there was a choice. The middle of the dline was never a major issue, They held the middle fine, it was the edges where we got exploited. I didn't see the need to focus on the middle of the dline like we did. We played our Bigs way to much. I think if they had played the middle the same as last year, and concentrated on containment on the edges we would have had better pass rush and still contained the run and read-option.
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#27 Posted : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:14:36 PM(UTC)
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No doubt that there were many disappointing things in our season opener. Some of these things are typical to see early in the season, especially with so many young players on the field. The good news is the season is young and there is time to assess these problems.

The good

The offensive line looked better than I was expecting. While not excellent, one should also be reminded that they were up against a very good defensive front. The fact that Rodgers spent most of the day upright is encouraging.

Defensive line showed life. Also not perfect, but they plugged the middle up and slowed the running game down. They also didn't let Kaepernick burn us on big scrambles like we have seen before.

The passing game looked about like we would expect - minus the Finley mistake (I'll address that later). Jordy had a very good day, making crucial catches in difficult situations. Finley's effort on the TD was amazing! If the line can give Rodgers more time, our receivers will have more opportunities as well.

The bad

I will get the most obvious out of the way first. Our secondary was straight up terrible. I don't know where to begin on that topic. Letting their QB throw for 400 yards is sad - especially when I don't think he is much above an average passer. Our safeties didn't play aggressive enough from the line. Some disruption would have been nice to see.

Turnovers like those are not excusable. Lacy is a rookie, we all know that - but the most important thing in football has never changed since his first day playing - PROTECT THE DAMN BALL! Finley might as well have gift wrapped that ball for them when he gave them the pick on a silver platter. I know sh** happens sometimes, but both of these were preventable.

Coaching.... I can say that we had a solid plan for the option, but I think this had a lot to do with our secondary getting torched. Anytime you scheme for one thing, there is something else to exploit because of it. Now to the biggest point - WHAT WAS THE REASONING FOR ACCEPTING THAT PENALTY?!?!?!? Shame on you Mike McCarthy Shame on you

Clay Matthews getting flagged for the late hit. While it can be speculated whether or not he had malicious intent, it was bad judgment. The positive is his pursuit to Kaepernick on the scramble was relentless.

I'm sure I missed some things, but these are the ones that come to mind at this time. I think we are in for quite a season.
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#28 Posted : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:48:57 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: hardrocker950 Go to Quoted Post
No doubt that there were many disappointing things in our season opener. Some of these things are typical to see early in the season, especially with so many young players on the field. The good news is the season is young and there is time to assess these problems.

The good

The offensive line looked better than I was expecting. While not excellent, one should also be reminded that they were up against a very good defensive front. The fact that Rodgers spent most of the day upright is encouraging.

Defensive line showed life. Also not perfect, but they plugged the middle up and slowed the running game down. They also didn't let Kaepernick burn us on big scrambles like we have seen before.

The passing game looked about like we would expect - minus the Finley mistake (I'll address that later). Jordy had a very good day, making crucial catches in difficult situations. Finley's effort on the TD was amazing! If the line can give Rodgers more time, our receivers will have more opportunities as well.

The bad

I will get the most obvious out of the way first. Our secondary was straight up terrible. I don't know where to begin on that topic. Letting their QB throw for 400 yards is sad - especially when I don't think he is much above an average passer. Our safeties didn't play aggressive enough from the line. Some disruption would have been nice to see.

Turnovers like those are not excusable. Lacy is a rookie, we all know that - but the most important thing in football has never changed since his first day playing - PROTECT THE DAMN BALL! Finley might as well have gift wrapped that ball for them when he gave them the pick on a silver platter. I know sh** happens sometimes, but both of these were preventable.

Coaching.... I can say that we had a solid plan for the option, but I think this had a lot to do with our secondary getting torched. Anytime you scheme for one thing, there is something else to exploit because of it. Now to the biggest point - WHAT WAS THE REASONING FOR ACCEPTING THAT PENALTY?!?!?!? Shame on you Mike McCarthy Shame on you

Clay Matthews getting flagged for the late hit. While it can be speculated whether or not he had malicious intent, it was bad judgment. The positive is his pursuit to Kaepernick on the scramble was relentless.

I'm sure I missed some things, but these are the ones that come to mind at this time. I think we are in for quite a season.


Probably the key to the game right there. We didn't jam any of their weapons. Especially Bolden. He was free to do what ever he wanted and got open every time. I hope they looked at the film and fucking will challenge their receivers more next week. Hopefully Burnett back will spark the secondary. And give a even more toughness to the run D.
Offline play2win  
#29 Posted : Wednesday, September 11, 2013 5:15:58 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DoddPower Go to Quoted Post
I did think that MD Jennings and McMillian had pathetic games. I obviously don't know all the defensive calls and whom was responsible for what, but from what I could tell, those guys sucked. BAD. I've never been a fan of Jennings. I like McMillian due do his physicality and speed, but my confidence is beginning to waiver in him, as well. I hoped/expected him to really take a step forward this season.


I feel exactly the same way. Wanting to see McMillian take it to the next level, and really disappointed after the SF loss.

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#30 Posted : Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:27:55 AM(UTC)
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I agree Jennings and McMillian were not horrible, and it would be a damn overreaction to cut either. While the Packers don't play a significant distinction between free safety and strong safety, it was new and maybe a problem having those two playing together. The fact that Burnett was reported to be playing shortly before the game tells me he is not far from being ready, so hopefully, problem solved.

The major part of the problem, though, was the SOLUTION. The Capers way of stopping Kaepernick's running (more scrambling than read/option per se) was to basically divert all the LBs from pass coverage to containment - that and still without significant blitzing most of the time. Our DBs were set up for failure by not having the usual LB help in coverage and except for rare occasions when Matthews was unleashed, no pressure on Kaepernick either. I can see the logic of doing it that way - in fact, there may not be a better way of dealing with his running ability, but the fact is, in that game, he was so accurate a passer that it didn't work.

I'm wondering if we employ the same strategy against Griffin. I hope not, as I don't see him even before the injury as near the runner Kaepernick is. Griffin, if he is on his game, is, however, a better passer than Kaepernick - better than Kaepernick most games anyway.
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Offline Zero2Cool  
#31 Posted : Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:30:50 AM(UTC)
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#32 Posted : Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:48:33 AM(UTC)
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Something I haven't really seen mentioned much is the fact that we all got to watch a great game between two of the best teams in the NFL. I watched and followed most of the other games and even with the penalties and mistakes both GB and SF looked to me like two of the sharpest and better coached teams of the week. A lot of teams looked like garbage even some of the teams that won. We are lucky that even when we have a tunover and mistake filled game we stil have a chance to win against a top 3 team in the league.
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