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MintBaconDrivel  
#1 Posted : Friday, September 27, 2013 7:59:08 AM(UTC)
Rob Demovsky said:
A roundup of what's happening on the Green Bay Packers beat. Considerable time has been spent this week writing about and discussing quarterback Aaron Rodgers' record in close games and comeback situations in large part because he failed to lead a fourth-quarter comeback drive in last Sunday's 34-30 loss at Cincinnati. Much of the discussion centered around an ESPN Insider piece by Football Outsiders' Scott Kacsmar, who went so far as to say Rodgers' sub-par record in close games -- 5-24 in games when Rodgers had the ball in the fourth quarter and trailed by between one and eight points -- prevents him from being classified as one of the game's truly great quarterbacks.
sschind  
#2 Posted : Friday, September 27, 2013 8:32:31 AM(UTC)
I'm usually not a fan of Mike Vandermause (his article was linked to in the article referenced in this thread) but he hit this one on the head. Rodgers has had his share of games let go by the defense in the 4th quarter and if even half those games were won his numbers would look better. Of course other QBs are in the same situation so his ranking may not change much but his overall numbers would be better

The bottom line is he still wins almost 2/3 of his games. I'll take a QB who who goes 11-5 every year and doesn't have any 4th quarter comebacks over one who goe 8-8 and has 7 4th quarter comebacks.
Gaycandybacon  
#3 Posted : Friday, September 27, 2013 1:57:54 PM(UTC)
sschind said: Go to Quoted Post
I'm usually not a fan of Mike Vandermause (his article was linked to in the article referenced in this thread) but he hit this one on the head. Rodgers has had his share of games let go by the defense in the 4th quarter and if even half those games were won his numbers would look better. Of course other QBs are in the same situation so his ranking may not change much but his overall numbers would be better

The bottom line is he still wins almost 2/3 of his games. I'll take a QB who who goes 11-5 every year and doesn't have any 4th quarter comebacks over one who goe 8-8 and has 7 4th quarter comebacks.


Ya and we all know where Tim Tebow is now
sschind  
#4 Posted : Friday, September 27, 2013 7:58:06 PM(UTC)
Gaycandybacon said: Go to Quoted Post
Ya and we all know where Tim Tebow is now


So you are comparing Aaron Rodgers to Tim Tebow? Yeah that's a good way to let others know the extent of your football knowledge.

gbguy20  
#5 Posted : Saturday, September 28, 2013 7:34:12 AM(UTC)
sschind said: Go to Quoted Post
So you are comparing Aaron Rodgers to Tim Tebow? Yeah that's a good way to let others know the extent of your football knowledge.



not sure thats what he was doing there
sschind  
#6 Posted : Saturday, September 28, 2013 9:14:34 AM(UTC)
gbguy20 said: Go to Quoted Post
not sure thats what he was doing there


Yeah, it could have went the other way and I thought of that as well. My apologies if I misunderstood.

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