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Offline nerdmann  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, October 2, 2013 7:56:01 PM(UTC)
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steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
The packers do take the play clock down when they run no huddle. The reason they go no huddle is to stop the other team from substituting.


Against the Niners, they had multiple 10 play drives for under 3:00.
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#2 Posted : Thursday, October 3, 2013 9:59:25 AM(UTC)
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nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Against the Niners, they had multiple 10 play drives for under 3:00.


They had 0 10 play drives against the Niners...

Play clock is not the same thing as game clock. Just because the game clock isn't running doesn't mean they aren't taking time.

Does the defense not get to rest if the previous play was an incomplete pass and stopped the game clock? HAHA "Hey guys the game clock has stopped for this next play so run some wind sprints on the sideline, you only get to rest if the clock is running"
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steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
They had 0 10 play drives against the Niners...

Play clock is not the same thing as game clock. Just because the game clock isn't running doesn't mean they aren't taking time.

Does the defense not get to rest if the previous play was an incomplete pass and stopped the game clock? HAHA "Hey guys the game clock has stopped for this next play so run some wind sprints on the sideline, you only get to rest if the clock is running"


I partially agree. The part I disagree with is about the game clock. While everyone is getting a breather - if the game clock stops, that still leaves time that they will likely be playing. If the clock keeps moving- that takes time away that the D would likely be on the field.
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hardrocker950 said: Go to Quoted Post
I partially agree. The part I disagree with is about the game clock. While everyone is getting a breather - if the game clock stops, that still leaves time that they will likely be playing. If the clock keeps moving- that takes time away that the D would likely be on the field.


I'm referring to people saying things like "they only got a 2 minute break" when the offense only took 2 minutes off the clock but ran a 9-10 play drive. The # of plays is the amount of time the defense is resting moreso than how much time came off the game clock.
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Just because The Packers run a no-huddle, doesn't mean all their drives are going to be less than 3:00.

Take the last scoring drive The Packers had in The Bengals game.

The 3rd play of the drive is when Franklin busted open for a 51yd gain.

Now is he supposed to just run for 10 yds then fall down, because The Packers are trying to run clock?

This whole premise of trying to milk the clock at the beginning or even halfway through the game is ridiculous.

Todays NFL is all about score, score and score some more!!!!!

Hell the rules almost force a team to try and put up 50 just to have a safe lead.

Thankfully The Packers have the personal to do this.
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Just because The Packers run a no-huddle, doesn't mean all their drives are going to be less than 3:00.

Take the last scoring drive The Packers had in The Bengals game.

The 3rd play of the drive is when Franklin busted open for a 51yd gain.

Now is he supposed to just run for 10 yds then fall down, because The Packers are trying to run clock?

This whole premise of trying to milk the clock at the beginning or even halfway through the game is ridiculous.

Todays NFL is all about score, score and score some more!!!!!

Hell the rules almost force a team to try and put up 50 just to have a safe lead.

Thankfully The Packers have the personal to do this.


Fundamentals are fundamentals.

If you give Kaepernick 50 snaps, he'll score more points than he will if you give him 25.

Plain and simple.
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#8 Posted : Friday, October 4, 2013 8:20:05 AM(UTC)
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nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Fundamentals are fundamentals.

If you give Kaepernick 50 snaps, he'll score more points than he will if you give him 25.

Plain and simple.



If you're going to be that rudimentary about it, than I'll be even more "plain and simple". If the Packers score more points than their opponent, they'll win the game. It doesn't matter how many plays it takes, so long as they score more points.

As I've said before, it's the offenses job to score points, and it's the defenses job to stop the opposing team from scoring points. Anything other than that (long drives, etc.), is just a bonus. If the Packers offense could easily score 40+ points every game as a result of very quick time of possession drives, I would be ecstatic.

Generally speaking over the past few years, the offense has done it's job. The defense needs to step up and get off the field.
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#9 Posted : Friday, October 4, 2013 8:40:01 AM(UTC)
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The simple point that is overlooked here by people advocating taking time off the clock to keep Kaepernick or whoever off the field is that we would also be taking time away from OUR high powered offense.

The only way this logic flies - shortening the game to inhibit the other team's offense - is if the other team's offense is BETTER than our own ....... and I just don't see any of those around, not even Kaepernick and the Niners.

Let Rodgers do his thing; Hope for a threat at least of a better running game; And hope our defense can get some stops; That will result in winning games.
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DoddPower said: Go to Quoted Post
If you're going to be that rudimentary about it, than I'll be even more "plain and simple". If the Packers score more points than their opponent, they'll win the game. It doesn't matter how many plays it takes, so long as they score more points.

As I've said before, it's the offenses job to score points, and it's the defenses job to stop the opposing team from scoring points. Anything other than that (long drives, etc.), is just a bonus. If the Packers offense could easily score 40+ points every game as a result of very quick time of possession drives, I would be ecstatic.

Generally speaking over the past few years, the offense has done it's job. The defense needs to step up and get off the field.


The defense clearly wore down against the Niners.
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