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Online Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 10:07:57 AM(UTC)
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Eddie Lacy
134 attempts
596 yards
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4 TD
27 first downs



James Starks
47 attempts
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 10:23:16 AM(UTC)
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This run game is very exciting to watch. That's for sure. Even while the Bears were stacking the box, these two were running all over them.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 10:23:37 AM(UTC)
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Lacy, Franklin, then Starks.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 11:11:23 AM(UTC)
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I'd put Lacy ahead of Starks but I'm not really sure why. Part of it is because he is a rookie and I want to believe we finally drafted the guy who is going to resurrect our running game. Part of it is because I can't help but think that although Starks has great numbers, he has had fewer opportunities and I don't think he could keep it up as consistently as Lacy. In other words, If Starks had all of Lacy's carries I don't think his numbers would have been as good. I don't even know why I feel that way.

Simply by looking at the numbers you would think Starks would be the better back and who knows maybe he is.

All I know is that I like it. I'd like to see Starks get a fe w more touches per game and Franklin as well. Maybe 18- 20 total for Lacy 8-10 or so for Starks and maybe half a dozen for Franklin (trhat includes receptions not just carries)

Still, it's kind of hard to argue with what is going on so far. The next several weeks will be a real test. If our opposing defenses don' have to worry about Rodgers what will they be able to do to our running game.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 11:21:24 AM(UTC)
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Starks is on a pitch count until he proves he can stay healthy.
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#6 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 6:05:24 AM(UTC)
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Green Bay Packers RB James Starks is the only player in the NFL this season to post three touchdown runs of 25 yards or longer.
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#7 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 2:32:01 PM(UTC)
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Lacy & Starks, not Lacy vs Starks. Keep everyone's legs fresh by spreading the wealth around.
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#8 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 2:52:42 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Yerko Go to Quoted Post
This run game is very exciting to watch. That's for sure. Even while the Bears were stacking the box, these two were running all over them.


The nice thing about running against a stacked box is they all can't converge on the ball carrier. If the runner can get through the first line of the defense he could run for awhile. As we have seen.
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#9 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 2:54:12 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
Eddie Lacy
134 attempts
596 yards
4.4 average
56 long
2 20+
4 TD
27 first downs



James Starks
47 attempts
284 yards
6.0 average
32 long
4 20+
3 TD
18 first downs


Lacy is a workhorse kind of a runner. He can pound on the defense for a while. Starks makes a nice change of pace back who can slash through and get some yards for you while the Big Dog is catching his breath.
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#10 Posted : Friday, December 27, 2013 8:35:45 AM(UTC)
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Revisiting this for curiousity sake. I think Starks role is fantastic and think he's doing awesome as a part time player. When he comes onto the field, he looks like he could break it deep.

Eddie Lacy
263 attempts
1,112 yards
4.2 average
60 long
3 20+
10 TD
58 first downs



James Starks
78 attempts
405 yards
5.2 average
34 long
4 20+
3 TD
24 first downs

Edit, ProFootballFocus has Eddie Lacy ranked as the 3rd best RB in the NFL behind LeSean McCoy and Jamal Charles. I would just like to remind everyone that I predicted the Lacy greatness the second he was drafted.

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#11 Posted : Friday, December 27, 2013 8:41:16 AM(UTC)
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Man, then you gotta remember next year you'll have Harris and Franklin coming back. If all four get through TC healthy and having shown something, do you keep all four?
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#12 Posted : Friday, December 27, 2013 8:46:51 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra Go to Quoted Post
Man, then you gotta remember next year you'll have Harris and Franklin coming back. If all four get through TC healthy and having shown something, do you keep all four?


Might be incentive to keep those 4, especially given the injuries to our running backs this year, and let Kuhn walk. We have already filled his short yardage role with Lacy and you could fill the blocking role with one of the tight ends playing as an H-Back.
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#13 Posted : Friday, December 27, 2013 8:55:05 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mi_keys Go to Quoted Post
Might be incentive to keep those 4, especially given the injuries to our running backs this year, and let Kuhn walk. We have already filled his short yardage role with Lacy and you could fill the blocking role with one of the tight ends playing as an H-Back.


Possible though it seems like kuhn is having his best year as a blocker.
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#14 Posted : Friday, December 27, 2013 8:58:48 AM(UTC)
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I think this week we should give Starks a bigger work load and save lacy just for in case starks isnt getting it done. Lacy keeps re tweaking that ankle every week and it might be better if we could get away with giving him a week off. Weve got a good back up and this is a perfect situation to use him.
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#15 Posted : Friday, December 27, 2013 9:28:12 AM(UTC)
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Man, then you gotta remember next year you'll have Harris and Franklin coming back. If all four get through TC healthy and having shown something, do you keep all four?


I see Lacy and Franklin as being on a level above a guy like Starks. And I think Starks is good. I'd take him over Grant. Maybe not Ahman Green.

This is a great role for Starks. Keeps him healthy due to the limited snaps. He might have to take more of the load until Lacy gets better though. He's had an ankle.

We're gonna be loaded at this position next year.
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#16 Posted : Friday, December 27, 2013 9:29:03 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post


I would just like to remind everyone that I predicted the Lacy greatness the second he was drafted.


Z2C, I could be wrong - I'm getting a little bit old and forgetful - but I seem to recall you NOT being particularly positive about Lacy after the draft.

I see nothing at all wrong with keeping all four RBs next season with the high potential for injuries, etc. Kuhn has been a good soldier for a long time, but I lean toward the idea of cutting him - as was said, Lacy etc. takes his run role and Taylor or whoever of the TEs handles the FB/H Back job. I think his blocking just seems better because the RBs have made better use of his blocks.
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#17 Posted : Friday, December 27, 2013 11:15:08 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
Revisiting this for curiousity sake. I think Starks role is fantastic and think he's doing awesome as a part time player. When he comes onto the field, he looks like he could break it deep.

Eddie Lacy
263 attempts
1,112 yards
4.2 average
60 long
3 20+
10 TD
58 first downs



James Starks
78 attempts
405 yards
5.2 average
34 long
4 20+
3 TD
24 first downs

Edit, ProFootballFocus has Eddie Lacy ranked as the 3rd best RB in the NFL behind LeSean McCoy and Jamal Charles. I would just like to remind everyone that I predicted the Lacy greatness the second he was drafted.


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#18 Posted : Friday, December 27, 2013 11:19:00 AM(UTC)
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We're gonna be loaded at this position next year.



Oh goody, another NEXT YEAR. We are going to be loaded at this position NEXT YEAR. Should be a good battle NEXT YEAR. When we get everyone back NEXT YEAR.

You are right of course but I'm getting a little tired of NEXT YEAR. It seems like it's been a long time since any of those things are applicable to THIS YEAR.

Hopefully NEXT YEAR will be THIS YEAR.
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#19 Posted : Friday, December 27, 2013 11:28:50 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: sschind Go to Quoted Post
Oh goody, another NEXT YEAR. We are going to be loaded at this position NEXT YEAR. Should be a good battle NEXT YEAR. When we get everyone back NEXT YEAR.

You are right of course but I'm getting a little tired of NEXT YEAR. It seems like it's been a long time since any of those things are applicable to THIS YEAR.

Hopefully NEXT YEAR will be THIS YEAR.


I'm not writing this year off.
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#20 Posted : Friday, December 27, 2013 11:35:59 AM(UTC)
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Not worried about next year, not worried about the rest of this year.

Little bit excited about thids Sunday, another North Championship on the line.

My opinion on John Kuhn, worth every cent he has been paid!!!

In 2010 when The Packers were down to their 4th and 5th string RB's it was Kuhn who stepped out of his FB position and became the rb The Packers were in such need of.
After Starks got healthy and came on, there went Kuhn back to being a FB.

Anyone notice how this year that little dive play to the FB(Kuhn) that was so successful in 2010, all of a sudden is back and working again?

Not sure where Kujn is in his contract, if it is up, there's a good chance he may not be back, but if he has a year left, wouldn't let him go for anyone else.
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#21 Posted : Friday, December 27, 2013 12:29:03 PM(UTC)
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I agree with steveishere.
Give alot of the carries to Starks, and see if he can carry the team this week. Have Lacy ready to go if Starks doesn't get it done.

Starks hasn't played alot, and should be well rested. He's got some talent, and I think his role could be HUGE this week.

And Buckeye, I see it too. I believe it's because the other team has to be so keyed on Lacy (or whoever else is back there) that it opens up a huge hole for Kuhn. Just another point of how important a running game is. If the other team has to fear it, it opens up other possibilities.
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#22 Posted : Saturday, December 28, 2013 1:44:03 PM(UTC)
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I'm not writing this year off.


I hear you. I know you are not and neither am I. I'm just saying that we have forever been looking forward to certain camp battles next year when all our guys are healthy. Just once I'd like them all to be healthy this year.

There is nothing wrong with fans looking ahead. We are not playing or preparing for the next game so our minds can be anywhere we want them to be.

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#23 Posted : Saturday, December 28, 2013 2:08:28 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post


We're gonna be loaded at this position next year.


Hell yeah we are, but can our pass happy coach, and no name offensive line make us a power running team and extend the career of our first ballot hall of fame quarterback? We will see, won't we?
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#24 Posted : Saturday, December 28, 2013 2:43:33 PM(UTC)
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Hell yeah we are, but can our pass happy coach, and no name offensive line make us a power running team and extend the career of our first ballot hall of fame quarterback? We will see, won't we?


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