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Offline MintBaconDrivel  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, December 3, 2013 6:23:11 AM(UTC)

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Darin Gantt said:
Maybe Packers coach Mike McCarthy just wanted to wait to have a press conference until he had something to say. The Packers should find out more about the future of quarterback Aaron Rodgers today, as he's having another round of scans to determine how much his broken left collarbone has healed, according to Ed Werder...

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, December 3, 2013 7:29:55 AM(UTC)

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I ask what do we have to gain if Rodgers plays? I actually think it hurts us alot having him play. The reason behind that is we would maybe win 2 of the 4 games which makes our draft pick back into the late teens and if he doesn't play we could end up with a top 10 pick. Also if he plays he will cover up some of the holes again and Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy wouldn't worry about fixing things like every other year.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, December 3, 2013 8:03:00 AM(UTC)

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So the biggest day of the season is on a Tuesday.

If he's back, no reason to think we don't win out the regular season and have at least a puncher's chance in the playoffs. If the negativists are right and they shut him down, the Packers are just playing to see how high a draft pick they get.

As for those holes, Thompson (and whatever I may want, I assume he is still GM) hopefully has had a wake up call, and he does a better job.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, December 3, 2013 11:19:05 AM(UTC)

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That is why the press conference is being scheduled so late today and was cancelled yesterday. Makes sense. See yall at 3:15 central!
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, December 3, 2013 7:42:45 PM(UTC)

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dhazer said: Go to Quoted Post
I ask what do we have to gain if Rodgers plays? I actually think it hurts us alot having him play. The reason behind that is we would maybe win 2 of the 4 games which makes our draft pick back into the late teens and if he doesn't play we could end up with a top 10 pick. Also if he plays he will cover up some of the holes again and Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy wouldn't worry about fixing things like every other year.


I'd rather win 2 of 4 games and have a lower pick. I guess I can understand the "suck for Luck" type mentality that some people have but I just can't do it. I don't have it in me to root for the Packers to lose. Now some people will say "I'm not rooting for them to lose it just won't bother me so much if they do" but I say bullshit. dhazer, and I direct this at you simply because I am responding to your post but there are a lot of others like you, you ARE rooting for the Packers to lose. This season is over ( and I pretty much admit that even though I still hold a glimmer of hope) and to you losses now mean a higher draft pick and that means a better chance to improve the team. I'm not going to say it makes you less of a fan because who am I to say how a fan should root for his team. That is why I have always hated comments that start with "a real fan..." or "a true fan..." When I read those posts I just want to reach out and pound the poster to a bloody pulp. I honestly can understand where you are coming from and in a way you may be right but like I said its just not me.

I know its cliche to say the draft is a crap shoot and I do agree that in general the higher the pick the better the odds at finding a better player but I'll say it, the draft is a crap shoot. Since the entire draft is a what if proposition I'll say that what if he Packers draft #10 and the guy they take flops and the guy that they might have taken at #18 (or 21) turns out to be a perennial all pro. Is it such a good thing that they lost the extra two games this year?

I want he Packers to win every single game they play. I know that won't happen so I want them to win as many games as they possibly can. If winning 2 more games this season means 10 position swing in draft position I will be glad for the 2 extra wins
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, December 3, 2013 8:13:24 PM(UTC)

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If an organization is run well then it doesn't matter where they pick. Jacksonville has been in the top 10 for years and years. They still suck. New England has had bottom picks for years, they are still good.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, December 4, 2013 7:29:44 AM(UTC)

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I'd rather win 2 of 4 games and have a lower pick. I guess I can understand the "suck for Luck" type mentality that some people have but I just can't do it. I don't have it in me to root for the Packers to lose. Now some people will say "I'm not rooting for them to lose it just won't bother me so much if they do" but I say bullshit. dhazer, and I direct this at you simply because I am responding to your post but there are a lot of others like you, you ARE rooting for the Packers to lose. This season is over ( and I pretty much admit that even though I still hold a glimmer of hope) and to you losses now mean a higher draft pick and that means a better chance to improve the team. I'm not going to say it makes you less of a fan because who am I to say how a fan should root for his team. That is why I have always hated comments that start with "a real fan..." or "a true fan..." When I read those posts I just want to reach out and pound the poster to a bloody pulp. I honestly can understand where you are coming from and in a way you may be right but like I said its just not me.

I know its cliche to say the draft is a crap shoot and I do agree that in general the higher the pick the better the odds at finding a better player but I'll say it, the draft is a crap shoot. Since the entire draft is a what if proposition I'll say that what if he Packers draft #10 and the guy they take flops and the guy that they might have taken at #18 (or 21) turns out to be a perennial all pro. Is it such a good thing that they lost the extra two games this year?

I want he Packers to win every single game they play. I know that won't happen so I want them to win as many games as they possibly can. If winning 2 more games this season means 10 position swing in draft position I will be glad for the 2 extra wins


I am saying more so that we should let Tolzein, Sherrod, and some of the others we are not sure about play and see if they are worth contracts next year. Hell how much more experience can some of these guys get than to be playing against playoff teams? Get Flynn off the field for starters and we might even have a chance to beat the Falcons. I am a huge fan I live by Pittsburgh and I fly my Packer colors proudly and hell I even painted my master bedroom and bathroom in Packers green and gold. But I am also a realist when I say we don't stand a chance in obamacare (hell) to win the SuperBowl. So why not use it to evaluate some players and get them real game experience instead of the preseason stuff.

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#8 Posted : Wednesday, December 4, 2013 10:22:01 AM(UTC)

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dhazer said: Go to Quoted Post
I am saying more so that we should let Tolzein, Sherrod, and some of the others we are not sure about play and see if they are worth contracts next year. Hell how much more experience can some of these guys get than to be playing against playoff teams? Get Flynn off the field for starters and we might even have a chance to beat the Falcons. I am a huge fan I live by Pittsburgh and I fly my Packer colors proudly and hell I even painted my master bedroom and bathroom in Packers green and gold. But I am also a realist when I say we don't stand a chance in obamacare (hell) to win the SuperBowl. So why not use it to evaluate some players and get them real game experience instead of the preseason stuff.



Now that idea has some merit and please know that was being serious when I said I didn't think you were any less of a fan. You don't have to prove it by me. We may disagree on what best for the team is but to us it is still best and that is what counts.

If you would have said from the start lets give our younger guys a chance to get some game experience and show what they can do rather than saying losings gives us a better draft pick it would have saved me a whole lot of typing (and you a whole lot of reading.)[grin1] [grin1]

Personally, If Rodgers is healthy I think he should play. If he is not or if the risk of re-injury is too high then he should sit. If he sits two more weeks and we lose to the Falcons and the cowboys and then he is deemed fit I think he should start the last two weeks.
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