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Offline wpr  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, January 7, 2014 3:49:23 PM(UTC)
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The Packers finished their season with four defensive players who were older than 27 on their active roster and one member of that group said that the Packers might want to consider having more veterans on hand in the future. Cornerback Tramon Williams reflected Monday on the things he learned from veteran Packers defenders as...
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, January 7, 2014 10:55:09 PM(UTC)
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I've heard some talk about the Steelers defensive coordinator hates playing young players until they fully learn the defense saying it's a hard defense to learn as it's more complex and he likes when rookies ride the bench and get to learn from the vets for a couple of years.

And it's said Capers runs a defense that's very like the Steelers defense.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, January 7, 2014 11:02:00 PM(UTC)
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I call bull.

Some of the best defenders in the league are still in their rookie deals.

A player today is not what it once was, they are much more "NFL ready" coming out of college. It's just a matter of coaching them up.

And aside from Hyde, I'm pretty sure all the defenders with a significant amount of snaps were veterans.

Excuses.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, January 8, 2014 3:38:03 AM(UTC)
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One of the players over 27 (Bush) made the poor containment play on Kaepernick that led to the easy FG for the win last Sunday.
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beast said: Go to Quoted Post
I've heard some talk about the Steelers defensive coordinator hates playing young players until they fully learn the defense saying it's a hard defense to learn as it's more complex and he likes when rookies ride the bench and get to learn from the vets for a couple of years.

And it's said Capers runs a defense that's very like the Steelers defense.


It is not said that Capers defense is like Steelers. It is fact that he and LeBeau together made the defense. LeBeau is just better.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, January 8, 2014 5:58:29 AM(UTC)
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Hayward looked pretty good last year.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, January 8, 2014 7:24:14 AM(UTC)
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Salary caps are a bitch eh? Anyway, I understand it is complex but I don't think that's the main issue. I think the main issue is the effectiveness of the front end. You get more pressure, you force quicker and hopefully worse decisions, and that tends to lead to more turnovers.

I understand trying to come out with explanations like this once the season is over and now that it is players feel more liberated to speak their mind.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, January 8, 2014 8:15:34 AM(UTC)
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One of the players over 27 (Bush) made the poor containment play on Kaepernick that led to the easy FG for the win last Sunday.



This and what Nerdmann just said were exactly what I was thinking after reading the initial article. What he says is true to a point, but obviously even vets like Bush are making "rookie" mistakes.
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, January 8, 2014 8:27:28 AM(UTC)
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We almost beat the 49ers with what almost amounted to a second string defense. I hope our top guys stay healthy next year!
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, January 8, 2014 8:46:26 AM(UTC)
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musccy said: Go to Quoted Post
This and what Nerdmann just said were exactly what I was thinking after reading the initial article. What he says is true to a point, but obviously even vets like Bush are making "rookie" mistakes.


It's not about mistakes but about making plays.

Against the 9ers our only great defensive play came from Tramon, and it's usually Tramon or Clay.

In 2010 we had Woodson, Collins, Tramon and Clay as playmakers... and now?
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