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Offline nerdmann  
#1 Posted : Friday, January 17, 2014 12:32:23 PM(UTC)
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Darin Gantt wrote:
Packers assistant coach and Hall of Fame finalist Kevin Greene is leaving the team's coaching staff, the team announced Friday. “I am stepping away from the NFL at this time in order to spend more time with my wife, Tara, and our children, Gavin and Gabrielle,” Greene said in a statement released by the team....
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
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#2 Posted : Friday, January 17, 2014 12:35:50 PM(UTC)
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so much for all the chatter on here about him becoming D.C.
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#3 Posted : Friday, January 17, 2014 12:36:02 PM(UTC)
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Well cool guy and a huge blow to the position. I have no doubt Dom and the guys can find a suitable coach but you cannot replace a presence like Greene.
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#4 Posted : Friday, January 17, 2014 12:38:39 PM(UTC)
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This is unacceptable! We fans HAVE to step up! This is more damn brainwashing! Proof you want? Read!!

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Kevin approached me recently to express his desire to step away from coaching so that he could spend more time with his family. On behalf of the entire organization, I want to thank him for all of his contributions and hard work over the past five seasons with the Packers.


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Offline play2win  
#5 Posted : Friday, January 17, 2014 12:49:38 PM(UTC)
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I wonder if there is more to this than Greene wanting to spend more time with his family. Always thought highly of him and appreciate his contributions in GB.
Offline blueleopard  
#6 Posted : Friday, January 17, 2014 12:54:39 PM(UTC)
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Isn't the guy likely on his way to the Hall of Fame this year?
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#7 Posted : Friday, January 17, 2014 1:07:43 PM(UTC)
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Everybody looks up to Wood as being the leader. He's Gone ! Nobodys fucking standing up and rallying the fucking troops. IT IS TIME ! IT IS TIME !
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#8 Posted : Friday, January 17, 2014 1:09:23 PM(UTC)
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Damn.
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Offline wpr  
#9 Posted : Friday, January 17, 2014 1:26:57 PM(UTC)
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That's too bad. He brought a real fire to the game. At least he is not going to another team.

I can't blame him for wanting to spend more time with his family. The kids are not going to stay young forever and momma won't look any better than she does today.
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Offline shield4life  
#10 Posted : Friday, January 17, 2014 3:29:19 PM(UTC)
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It's not like our LB we're amazing ... as a 3-4 scheme D we need to be faster, smarter & stronger.

Except for CM3 which I still think he can improve because he hasn't been that lights out lately there's no one that speaks out. I expected at least Perry would of been a good addition to the linebacker but seems to me that there was lack of development.

A new blood on the defensive side, specially w/ the linebacker core won't hurt. Even tho the DL can't generate the rush, the linebackers haven't done there part either getting to the QB & keep in mind in the 3-4 scheme they are the ones causing havoc

Hopefully the new coordinator will be able to boots the OLB
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Offline Zero2Cool  
#11 Posted : Saturday, January 18, 2014 7:28:23 AM(UTC)
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Offline wpr  
#12 Posted : Saturday, January 18, 2014 7:55:42 AM(UTC)
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Zero I have been thinking of this for the past day.
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Offline steveishere  
#13 Posted : Saturday, January 18, 2014 8:33:25 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: shield4life Go to Quoted Post
It's not like our LB we're amazing ... as a 3-4 scheme D we need to be faster, smarter & stronger.

Except for CM3 which I still think he can improve because he hasn't been that lights out lately there's no one that speaks out. I expected at least Perry would of been a good addition to the linebacker but seems to me that there was lack of development.

A new blood on the defensive side, specially w/ the linebacker core won't hurt. Even tho the DL can't generate the rush, the linebackers haven't done there part either getting to the QB & keep in mind in the 3-4 scheme they are the ones causing havoc

Hopefully the new coordinator will be able to boots the OLB


More like a lack of health. Before he got hurt this year Perry was pass rushing as productively as Matthews and he was looking a lot better than he did last year.

Not that I disagree that some new coaching on the defensive side will help. I kind of wish we could have hired Horton instead of Tennessee.
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#14 Posted : Saturday, January 18, 2014 1:07:50 PM(UTC)
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Can we really view Kevin Greene as a successful coach? It looks as if Perry might be a player, but from what I've witnessed in the last 5 years, we are still 1 player away from having bookend 3-4 OLB's. Now, I know some will blame Uncle Ted for this, but the fact still remains that no players given to Greene were coached up to the point that they were at least solid role players. Green Bay's version of the 3-4 is pretty pathetic. To me, there should be more changes with the coaching staff.
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#15 Posted : Saturday, January 18, 2014 2:02:47 PM(UTC)
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hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaha

First thing I noticed when I came on today was THIS. I just knew it - there would be a bunch of know-nothings crying in their beer over this WWF clown. I doubt any position coach is gonna make a major difference. It will be interesting, however, to see if the Packers choose another rah rah loud mouth type, or if they aim for somebody better able to teach some fundamentals like tackling.
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#16 Posted : Saturday, January 18, 2014 2:18:10 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker Go to Quoted Post
hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaha

First thing I noticed when I came on today was THIS. I just knew it - there would be a bunch of know-nothings crying in their beer over this WWF clown. I doubt any position coach is gonna make a major difference. It will be interesting, however, to see if the Packers choose another rah rah loud mouth type, or if they aim for somebody better able to teach some fundamentals like tackling.


and it's no surprise to anyone that you were completely wrong. hahahahahahahahahaha Face. Palm.
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Offline nerdmann  
#17 Posted : Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:11:07 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Can we really view Kevin Greene as a successful coach? It looks as if Perry might be a player, but from what I've witnessed in the last 5 years, we are still 1 player away from having bookend 3-4 OLB's. Now, I know some will blame Uncle Ted for this, but the fact still remains that no players given to Greene were coached up to the point that they were at least solid role players. Green Bay's version of the 3-4 is pretty pathetic. To me, there should be more changes with the coaching staff.


I thought Greene did wonders with a bunch of these scrubs, like Zombo, Walden, Dez Moses, guys with marginal talent with whom we were able to get by with for a season or two.

In fact if Moses hadn't gotten hurt this preseason, he might have made the team again.
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#18 Posted : Saturday, January 18, 2014 4:07:23 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
and it's no surprise to anyone that you were completely wrong. hahahahahahahahahaha Face. Palm.


Well, he is here so I guess technically he got the know nothing part right.

I respect your right to have your opinion but that doesn't mean I agree with it or respect you for having it.
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Offline play2win  
#19 Posted : Monday, January 20, 2014 11:44:35 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker Go to Quoted Post
hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaha

First thing I noticed when I came on today was THIS. I just knew it - there would be a bunch of know-nothings crying in their beer over this WWF clown. I doubt any position coach is gonna make a major difference. It will be interesting, however, to see if the Packers choose another rah rah loud mouth type, or if they aim for somebody better able to teach some fundamentals like tackling.


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Offline wpr  
#20 Posted : Monday, January 20, 2014 12:12:54 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
"How to Win Friends & Influence People." You should read it.


That won't work. There is also believing and acting on what is read.
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#21 Posted : Tuesday, January 21, 2014 3:10:32 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Can we really view Kevin Greene as a successful coach? It looks as if Perry might be a player, but from what I've witnessed in the last 5 years, we are still 1 player away from having bookend 3-4 OLB's. Now, I know some will blame Uncle Ted for this, but the fact still remains that no players given to Greene were coached up to the point that they were at least solid role players. Green Bay's version of the 3-4 is pretty pathetic. To me, there should be more changes with the coaching staff.


I wondered about this, as well. So far, he hasn't shown a whole lot. Like you said, though, it's hard to say whether that's on him, when all he was being handend were guys like Walden, Zombo, Briggs, Moses etc.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker Go to Quoted Post
hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaha

First thing I noticed when I came on today was THIS. I just knew it - there would be a bunch of know-nothings crying in their beer over this WWF clown. I doubt any position coach is gonna make a major difference. It will be interesting, however, to see if the Packers choose another rah rah loud mouth type, or if they aim for somebody better able to teach some fundamentals like tackling.


You mean the third guy on the all-time sack list? Someone who obviously has spent a lot of time perfecting his craft as a player and was good enough to at least stick around for 5 years?

It's not like the players he did coach went on to other teams, be coached up there and start producing. Walden is still Walden, Moses hasn't done anything this season, barely seeing the field, Zombo started five games but didn't produce and Briggs is playing in the UFL now.

That would imply that it's a lot more about a lack of talent than a lack of coaching.
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Offline Pack93z  
#22 Posted : Friday, January 24, 2014 9:47:06 AM(UTC)
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A relative perspective on Greene's decision.. transitioning from football is tougher than one might think.. I still jones to play the game.

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January is the season for coaching transition in the NFL, when coaches disembark from what I call the six-month “submarine tour” they boarded in late July and come ashore to view the shifting horizon. Head coaches are fired and hired, and staffs are reshuffled, culminating at this week’s Senior Bowl—a job fair for coaches seeking continued or renewed employment. After this week, the game of musical chairs will end, with those unable to find a seat waiting until next year.

Beyond the usual turnover, however, a different type of coaching transaction caught my eye. Kevin Greene, the Packers’ outside linebackers’ coach, resigned from the Packers to spend more time with his wife and two teenage children. In a profession where people often find it difficult to imagine doing anything else, Greene’s decision is noteworthy. It also resonates personally, albeit under different circumstances. I also left the Packers, six years ago this week, and now lead a life more under my own terms, with family in mind.

I don’t know Kevin Greene—we were not in Green Bay at the same time—but I have seen the atmosphere where one can become consumed with football, both internally and externally. Many people involved in NFL team operations have “football lives,” often to the exclusion of other interests. They think and talk about football when they eat, when they drive and even when they are at home. Some find it hard to be truly “present” with their families.

These football lives take on regimentation similar to players, but with longer hours and less pay. I regularly saw coaches and scouts use the team facility for their meals, their laundry, their workouts, even their wardrobe, wearing team-issued gear wherever they went. Social time is largely with others leading similar lives. As for family time, it can come in fits and starts.

Although as a front office executive I did not have the all-consuming life coaches and scouts did, my family still felt the impact. My sons, who were quite young when I was with the Packers, saw football as something that took me away from them, especially on the weekends, and we could never actually watch a game together as I worked during home games and traveled with the team. We now cherish watching games together.

Greene was with the Packers for five years, I was there nine years, the same length of time as my first boss, general manager Ron Wolf (and two years longer than Mike Holmgren). When Ron retired, I remember saying he felt “the walls were closing in” and grew to understand that comment.

Packers fans are warm-hearted people without pretense or edge and the Green Bay community is very welcoming; we made some wonderful life-long friends. Yet at times, it became hard to talk about topics beyond the team. I remember pumping gas and being tapped on the shoulder and asked, How’s that Donald Driver contract going? or being asked everywhere I went about Brett, Aaron or some other part of the team. And I was not even a coach or player; they felt it much more than I. The constant encirclement and year-round consumption of the Packers, although a special relationship, led to feeling, as Ron said, like the walls were closing in. I sense Greene felt that as well.

Often when we hear someone leaving to “spend more time with family,” we wonder about a back story. And many who state that reason for leaving have children that have already left home. I take this, though, for what it is: Kevin Greene chose to transition from a “football life” to a more impactful presence with his children at a formative time in their lives. And as every parent knows, that time is fleeting.
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#23 Posted : Friday, January 24, 2014 10:07:03 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for posting that Pack93z. Whole new perspective on this.
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