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Offline warhawk  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, March 5, 2014 3:42:33 PM(UTC)
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I know we have all looked at many of these mock drafts and it's all a guess anyhow. Especially with Ted Thompson at the helm.

One thing I look at are all the players picked AFTER the Packers and one thing is obvious and that is no matter what player these guessers are predicting the Packers may select there are really good players still left that may actually be who Teddy takes.

This continues beyond Round 1 to Rounds 2 and three as well. After that I don't have enough knowledge of these guys or know enough about them.

They say though that this is the deepest draft in 10 years. That said with all of the FA's and players that most certainly won't be back I wonder how Ted Thompson will go about this.

I wouldn't doubt if he doesn't take advantage of the depth of talent and move back at some point to get more numbers. I know many here hate that move but with this many good players and the staff's ability to find highly productive guys in later rounds I could see it happening.

Whatever happens in that regards I think we will all be happy after 3 rounds because there are some really good players to be had no matter what team takes who ahead of us.



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Offline Yerko  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, March 5, 2014 4:16:27 PM(UTC)
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I try to stay on top of the combine, player updates and draft as much as possible. It gets insane. While it is right that this is the deepest draft the NFL has had in awhile, I really hope the Packers do opposite of what you have suggested and go the route they did in the 2009 draft. Now, it doesn't necessarily have to be going all in and grabbing blue chip prospects in the 1st round, but maybe draft in the 1st round and then trade up for two 2nd round picks. I'm no expert when it comes to the trade value of picks.

And if it is possible, I wouldn't mind seeing them jump up and somehow getting two 1st round picks...
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Offline nerdmann  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, March 5, 2014 4:31:11 PM(UTC)
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The Justin Harrell pick was a surprise, but looking back, many of Ted's top picks are actually quite predictable.

Aaron Rodgers was pretty obvious, but only after he had fallen all the way dawn. But gus like BJ Raji, AJ Hawk, even Datone Jones were widely predicted beforehand.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, March 5, 2014 8:03:02 PM(UTC)
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One thing I'm noticing when looking over all these mocks is that it seems like GB is going to get someone who is need and BPA at 21. I've seen different mocks on different sites with Mosley, Nix III, Pryor, Clinton-Dix etc all going to us at 21.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, March 6, 2014 11:23:10 AM(UTC)
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The Bills have no 1st rnd pick.

The Bills are in need of a Safety with Byrd hitting the FA market.

Some have projected The Packers will have a shot a Calvin Pryor sitting at #21.

Get ready Packer fans, Trader Ted will be moving down in The draft, probably picking up The Bills 2nd and 3rd picks(and maybe a 7th) for that #21 pick.

The scenario fits right into Ted's wheelhouse.
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Offline Zero2Cool  
#6 Posted : Thursday, March 6, 2014 11:27:42 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan Go to Quoted Post
The Bills have no 1st rnd pick.

The Bills are in need of a Safety with Byrd hitting the FA market.

Some have projected The Packers will have a shot a Calvin Pryor sitting at #21.

Get ready Packer fans, Trader Ted will be moving down in The draft, probably picking up The Bills 2nd and 3rd picks(and maybe a 7th) for that #21 pick.

The scenario fits right into Ted's wheelhouse.


I do NOT want the Packers picking anyone at 21st overall. Give me the 2nd and 3rd round selections from the Bills for it.

But the Bills have the 9th overall pick so doubt they'd trade for a second 1st round pick.
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#7 Posted : Thursday, March 6, 2014 11:37:33 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
I do NOT want the Packers picking anyone at 21st overall. Give me the 2nd and 3rd round selections from the Bills for it.

But the Bills have the 9th overall pick so doubt they'd trade for a second 1st round pick.


My Bad, it's The Redskins who don't have a 1st rnd pick, damnit, they are also reported to be in need of a safety.

The scenario works for them also.

I agree,would like to see Ted move down to get an extra 2nd and 3rd, then use that 3rd The Packers 4th to move up into the 2nd rnd(Cleveland a possibility), with them having 2 #1's.

That would give The Packers 3 2nd rnd picks.
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#8 Posted : Thursday, March 6, 2014 12:01:42 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan Go to Quoted Post
That would give The Packers 3 2nd rnd picks.


THAT would be TT's wheelhouse.
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#9 Posted : Thursday, March 6, 2014 12:21:21 PM(UTC)
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Seems to me our biggest needs are inside linebacker and safety, and this is one poor draft for both positions at the top end of the draft anyway. Dix and Pryor are overated and Mosley won't be there. The Packers will stand pat and draft a defensive lineman, or surprise everybody and take a wide receiver if Jones is not resigned that is.
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#10 Posted : Thursday, March 6, 2014 12:33:22 PM(UTC)
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Sheeesh! Yeah, that trading down does sound like something Thompson would do, but it's a fucked up idea. We should move up, not down, if anything.

Solve Safety in free agency and ILB and OLB in the draft. And a big Raji/Nix size HELL NO to drafting another big lump in the first round.
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Offline Zero2Cool  
#11 Posted : Thursday, March 6, 2014 12:35:30 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker Go to Quoted Post
Sheeesh! Yeah, that trading down does sound like something Thompson would do, but it's a fucked up idea. We should move up, not down, if anything.

Solve Safety in free agency and ILB and OLB in the draft. And a big Raji/Nix size HELL NO to drafting another big lump in the first round.


Yes, move UP because recent history shows the Packers nail studs in 1st round more often than 2nd and 3rd round.

Give me an extra top half of the round 2nd and 3rd round pick over the 21st overall. I like my chances.
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Offline texaspackerbacker  
#12 Posted : Thursday, March 6, 2014 12:43:26 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
Yes, move UP because recent history shows the Packers nail studs in 1st round more often than 2nd and 3rd round.

Give me an extra top half of the round 2nd and 3rd round pick over the 21st overall. I like my chances.


It's well known I have a generally low opinion of Ted Thompson, but in the case of Sherrod and the other first round failures, I would say LUCK had a lot to do with it, not to mention the fact that the jury is still out on D. Jones and maybe Sherrod. As for the second round success, I give him credit there, Lacy especially, but also he had the same kind of LUCK he had when Rodgers fell to him.

I'd rather have an athletic talented first rounder - maybe Mosely - than an extra 2nd, 3rd, and 7th pick. We need quality more than quantity.

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Offline yooperfan  
#13 Posted : Thursday, March 6, 2014 12:43:43 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan Go to Quoted Post
My Bad, it's The Redskins who don't have a 1st rnd pick, damnit, they are also reported to be in need of a safety.

The scenario works for them also.

I agree,would like to see Ted move down to get an extra 2nd and 3rd, then use that 3rd The Packers 4th to move up into the 2nd rnd(Cleveland a possibility), with them having 2 #1's.

That would give The Packers 3 2nd rnd picks.


That's a scenario I would like to see happen!

Offline Zero2Cool  
#14 Posted : Thursday, March 6, 2014 1:00:31 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker Go to Quoted Post
It's well known I have a generally low opinion of Ted Thompson, but in the case of Sherrod and the other first round failures, I would say LUCK had a lot to do with it, not to mention the fact that the jury is still out on D. Jones and maybe Sherrod. As for the second round success, I give him credit there, Lacy especially, but also he had the same kind of LUCK he had when Rodgers fell to him.

I'd rather have an athletic talented first rounder - maybe Mosely - than an extra 2nd, 3rd, and 7th pick. We need quality more than quantity.


When I look over this list, I do not get any warm an fuzzy feelings.


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2013	1	26	Datone Jones	DE	UCLA
2012	1	28	Nick Perry	DE	USC
2011	1	32	Derek Sherrod	OL	Mississippi St.
2010	1	23	Bryan Bulaga	T	Iowa
2009	1	9	B.J. Raji	DT	Boston Col.
2009	1	26	Clay Matthews	LB	USC
2007	1	16	Justin Harrell	DT	Tennessee
2006	1	5	A.J. Hawk	LB	Ohio St.
2005	1	24	Aaron Rodgers	QB Cal





o_O there be some warm an fuzzies!!

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2013	2	61	Eddie Lacy	RB	Alabama
2012	2	51	Jerel Worthy	DT	Michigan St.
2012	2	62	Casey Hayward	DB	Vanderbilt
2011	2	64	Randall Cobb	WR	East. Kentucky
2010	2	56	Mike Neal	DE	Purdue
2008	2	36	Jordy Nelson	WR	Kansas St.
2008	2	56	Brian Brohm	QB	Louisville
2008	2	60	Patrick Lee	DB	Auburn
2007	2	63	Brandon Jackson	RB	Nebraska
2006	2	47	Daryn Colledge	T	Boise St.
2006	2	52	Greg Jennings	WR	West. Michigan
2005	2	51	Nick Collins	DB	Bethune-Cookman

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#15 Posted : Thursday, March 6, 2014 1:04:18 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan Go to Quoted Post
My Bad, it's The Redskins who don't have a 1st rnd pick, damnit, they are also reported to be in need of a safety.

The scenario works for them also.

I agree,would like to see Ted move down to get an extra 2nd and 3rd, then use that 3rd The Packers 4th to move up into the 2nd rnd(Cleveland a possibility), with them having 2 #1's.

That would give The Packers 3 2nd rnd picks.


The Redskins, I mean the Native Americans, will probably give their 2nd and 3rd round picks this year and their 2nd round pick next year.
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#16 Posted : Thursday, March 6, 2014 1:55:35 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker Go to Quoted Post
Sheeesh! Yeah, that trading down does sound like something Thompson would do, but it's a fucked up idea. We should move up, not down, if anything.

Solve Safety in free agency and ILB and OLB in the draft. And a big Raji/Nix size HELL NO to drafting another big lump in the first round.


There are several roster spots to fill. They could resign a lot of them or they could fill the spots with draft picks and probably have more talent overall.

If you want Ted Thompson to make a couple of relatively impactful FA moves then trading back and getting more picks would be one way to navigate to an improved roster overall. He has to get to 53 somehow so why not use the draft with the boat load of talent there this year and an inexpensive way to get better and allow a REAL FA move or two.

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#17 Posted : Thursday, March 6, 2014 3:06:16 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: warhawk Go to Quoted Post
There are several roster spots to fill. They could resign a lot of them or they could fill the spots with draft picks and probably have more talent overall.

If you want Ted Thompson to make a couple of relatively impactful FA moves then trading back and getting more picks would be one way to navigate to an improved roster overall. He has to get to 53 somehow so why not use the draft with the boat load of talent there this year and an inexpensive way to get better and allow a REAL FA move or two.



Letting quality players go - Shields, Quarless, EDS, maybe Starks, then replacing them with drafted players, THAT is like spinning your wheels. Keeping them and drafting to our weaknesses - Safety, ILB, maybe OLB is making decent progress; Using free agency to bring in a quality Safety and the draft to get more quality and athleticism at LB, THAT is taking a leap forward. I do not include James Jones and Raji in that retaining of our own because we have quality in place already at both WR and D-Line, and because Raji is worthless anyway.

I see your point about getting lower price talent in the draft, but we have the cap space - there's no good in wasting it, and generally, the lower you go in the draft, the more mediocre you get.

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#18 Posted : Friday, March 7, 2014 5:32:09 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
Yes, move UP because recent history shows the Packers nail studs in 1st round more often than 2nd and 3rd round.

Give me an extra top half of the round 2nd and 3rd round pick over the 21st overall. I like my chances.


I can easily see this happening, and I wouldn't be too disappointed. At the moment, I don't even care, move up or down. That doesn't matter to me. All that matters is that Ted gets the best players to come in and make an impact.

I want him to be aggressive in getting who he wants, but, open to that being an extra player or two with a trade down. Gotta hit though. We need immediate help with impact players, not projects. This draft does look deep enough to land a bunch with trades down, or up.
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#19 Posted : Friday, March 7, 2014 8:36:55 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
The Redskins, I mean the Native Americans, will probably give their 2nd and 3rd round picks this year and their 2nd round pick next year.


The Native Americans might very well give up every pick next year for a #1 this year. Never overestimate Dan Snyder's intelligence!!!
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