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Offline play2win  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 8:28:17 AM(UTC)
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Just a hunch. He fits a 3-4 DE perfectly, just what we need. And Trgo was his line coach and DC while in CAR. He knows him well. 7.5 sacks last season and 2 FFs.

That's one piece of the puzzle I would like to see here in GB, even at 34 years old. The guy can still play.

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 8:30:41 AM(UTC)
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Bold prediction. Pick is 34 too. We picked him up as a FA long ago at this point. I am not sure Ted ever signs a guy over 30 from another team.
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 8:41:53 AM(UTC)
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He's 34. Never played a 3-4 DE to my knowledge. He's more of a pass rushing threat than a hold the line and take on blockers guy. So he really doesn't fit the Caper's mold for DE's.

Other than all of that...
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Offline Yerko  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 8:48:44 AM(UTC)
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Peppers is old and takes a lot more plays off than he did when he was younger. He's still going to demand the bigger contract, even at 34. He played in a 3-4 in Carolina (I believe) and wasn't really that much of a fit.

Now, if the Packers were able to get him for a decent price, sure...but I don't think that is going to be the case with him.
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:08:09 AM(UTC)
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I'm for signing him - cheap, maybe with incentives. He seemed like he could still play in bursts last year. We don't need him to be an every down player. The way the Packers D is evolving - getting away from big fatties, a DE capable of rushing the passer is ideal. Imagine him on the same side as Matthews. Who are you gonna double team?
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:13:40 AM(UTC)
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Peppers has been successful as an Edge rusher, I don't think he would be effective playing inside. And when we drop in to pass defense he would need to be on the edge, the same edge Matthews is best at.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:18:09 AM(UTC)
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Clay Matthews had 13.5 sacks as LOLB in 2010. He is the same player at LOLB and ROLB. Therefore, if the Packers get someone who is a "ringer" at one side, they can move Clay.


2010 and 2011 30 games LOLB
Games: 30
Sacks: 19.5
QB Hit: 34
QB Hurries: 88


2012 and 2013 ROLB
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Sacks: 20.5
QB Hit: 18
QB Hurries: 46
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Offline play2win  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:52:58 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan Go to Quoted Post
He's 34. Never played a 3-4 DE to my knowledge. He's more of a pass rushing threat than a hold the line and take on blockers guy. So he really doesn't fit the Caper's mold for DE's.

Other than all of that...


He only had 81 sacks over an 8 years span playing in CAR's 3-4. Another 38 in 4 years with CHI in their 4-3.

Yeah, he's old, but may be of great service as a situational specialist at DE. Think this guy doesn't want a ring?
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 10:05:19 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
He only had 81 sacks over an 8 years span playing in CAR's 3-4. Another 38 in 4 years with CHI in their 4-3.

Yeah, he's old, but may be of great service as a situational specialist at DE.


My bad. I wasn't sure what Carolina ran back then.

But he's 34. Can't play Special Teams. Could be intriguing when Packers go to 2 DL, pair him with Daniels to rush. But he's 34.

He would instantly be the oldest player on the Packers. By 4 years. Not exactly TT's type of player; i.e young and cheap.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 10:19:26 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan Go to Quoted Post
My bad. I wasn't sure what Carolina ran back then.

But he's 34. Can't play Special Teams. Could be intriguing when Packers go to 2 DL, pair him with Daniels to rush. But he's 34.

He would instantly be the oldest player on the Packers. By 4 years. Not exactly TT's type of player; i.e young and cheap.


Yeah, you're right. He is out of Ted's age wheelhouse. I posted this before seeing Chris Clemons was released by SEA. I can't believe that. Clemons is 32, with 39 sacks over the last 4 seasons... I would sign him immediately. Could probably get both Clemons and Peppers for less than what Byrd got. But, Clemons is outside of the age bracket as well...

Personally, I think that needs to change with Ted. Get some true veteran leadership in the house. Can't do it signing only young players. They can be incredible mentors to the younger talents we draft.
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 10:21:14 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
Clay Matthews had 13.5 sacks as LOLB in 2010. He is the same player at LOLB and ROLB. Therefore, if the Packers get someone who is a "ringer" at one side, they can move Clay.


2010 and 2011 30 games LOLB
Games: 30
Sacks: 19.5
QB Hit: 34
QB Hurries: 88


2012 and 2013 ROLB
Games: 23
Sacks: 20.5
QB Hit: 18
QB Hurries: 46


He has played some at LOLB, but he has been predominately our ROLB. He has always been more productive from the Right.
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 10:25:56 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
He only had 81 sacks over an 8 years span playing in CAR's 3-4. Another 38 in 4 years with CHI in their 4-3.

Yeah, he's old, but may be of great service as a situational specialist at DE. Think this guy doesn't want a ring?


Pro-Football-Reference shows CAR as a 4-3 while Peppers was there.
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:02:16 AM(UTC)
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Let's see if Ted Thompson matches this...

"Filed to ESPN: Pending a physical, former Cowboys DE DeMarcus Ware reached agreement with Broncos on 3-year, $30M contract include $20M gtd."

Lol...Laughing


I'm sorry, that is absolutely ridiculous. Denver now has 2 huge guaranteed contracts on two guys that haven't finished the past couple seasons.
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Offline Laser Gunns  
#14 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:07:15 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins Go to Quoted Post
He has played some at LOLB, but he has been predominately our ROLB. He has always been more productive from the Right.


Clay is better at ROLB
Perry is better at LOLB


WHY HAVE WE NOT FLIPPED THEM!?

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#15 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:09:49 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Laser Gunns Go to Quoted Post
Clay is better at ROLB
Perry is better at LOLB


WHY HAVE WE NOT FLIPPED THEM!?

God our staff is stupid.


That is where they have been playing. Clay at ROLB, Perry at LOLB
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:21:18 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Yerko Go to Quoted Post
I'm sorry, that is absolutely ridiculous. Denver now has 2 huge guaranteed contracts on two guys that haven't finished the past couple seasons.


I agree with the overall point, but I won't be surprised at all if Denver is still playing while the Packers are sitting at home watching TV this post season.

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#17 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:29:57 PM(UTC)
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Whoever said Peppers played a 3-4 in Carolina... No. He was the marquee player of a 4-man defensive line that included Kris Jenkins, Brentson Buckner, and Mike Rucker.

After he bolted from Carolina, he expressed the desire to play in a team that runs the 3-4. He played end with his hand on the ground his entire career, and his size at 6'7" doesn't exactly make him the best fit. He does his best with his hand in the ground.

That, along with the fact that our defensive line coach is Mike Trgovac (whom Peppers didn't like much) makes me believe he wouldn't exactly be a good fit.
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:32:50 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DoddPower Go to Quoted Post
I agree with the overall point, but I won't be surprised at all if Denver is still playing while the Packers are sitting at home watch TV this season.



The reason being that they play in the weaker AFC
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#19 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:36:18 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: danreb Go to Quoted Post
Whoever said Peppers played a 3-4 in Carolina... No. He was the marquee player of a 4-man defensive line that included Kris Jenkins, Brentson Buckner, and Mike Rucker.

After he bolted from Carolina, he expressed the desire to play in a team that runs the 3-4. He played end with his hand on the ground his entire career, and his size at 6'7" doesn't exactly make him the best fit. He does his best with his hand in the ground.

That, along with the fact that our defensive line coach is Mike Trgovac (whom Peppers didn't like much) makes me believe he wouldn't exactly be a good fit.


I got the 3-4 info from the bleacher report. My bad. QCHuskerFan was right, and danreb, so are you.
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:39:28 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
I got the 3-4 info from the bleacher report. My bad. QCHuskerFan was right, and danreb, so are you.


Yeah, you should never ever trust bleacher report. It's utter shit.
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#21 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:41:53 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: cheeseheads123 Go to Quoted Post
The reason being that they play in the weaker AFC


If you say so. The AFC may be weaker, but that doesn't mean Denver's not a better team than the Packers.

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#22 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:46:06 PM(UTC)
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Yeah, you should never ever trust bleacher report. It's utter shit.


When am I going to learn? We just don't play in FA. Ever. I may just tune out until August... at least, that is what I feel like. Every year, get excited for FA, and it turns into a gigantic black hole swirling over northern Wisconsin. Then there is the draft, and how exciting to trade back...

Ayeeeeeeeeeee....Big Grin

Who knows? I just hope Ted makes the best moves that he can for our team and we'll see where the chips fall. Tough to hold out too much hope for 2014, but no one wins championships in March, unless you are John Schneider.
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#23 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:50:55 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
When am I going to learn? We just don't play in FA. Ever. I may just tune out until August... at least, that is what I feel like. Every year, get excited for FA, and it turns into a gigantic black hole swirling over northern Wisconsin. Then there is the draft, and how exciting to trade back...

Ayeeeeeeeeeee....Big Grin

Who knows? I just hope Ted makes the best moves that he can for our team and we'll see where the chips fall. Tough to hold out too much hope for 2014, but no one wins championships in March, unless you are John Schneider.


Regarding the first week of free agency, why would you get excited about your team over paying for talent and subjecting themselves to salary cap issues down the road?
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#24 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:55:43 PM(UTC)
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This free agency in particular has really turned me off to the idea of grabbing a guy the first day or two. I think almost every single player that went to a new team already was overpaid.
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#25 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:56:23 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
When am I going to learn? We just don't play in FA. Ever. I may just tune out until August... at least, that is what I feel like. Every year, get excited for FA, and it turns into a gigantic black hole swirling over northern Wisconsin. Then there is the draft, and how exciting to trade back...

Ayeeeeeeeeeee....Big Grin

Who knows? I just hope Ted makes the best moves that he can for our team and we'll see where the chips fall. Tough to hold out too much hope for 2014, but no one wins championships in March, unless you are John Schneider.


Who has also signed 0 outside players this FA period so far.
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