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Offline OlHoss1884  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 9:35:03 AM(UTC)
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It's always difficult to predict the draft when we're picking so late again, but I am going to guess it will be Xavier Su'a Filo, OG.

He's the highest rated interior lineman in the draft, can play OG or OT, and none of the mocks show anyone picking him earlier.

I am guessing by pick 21 he'll be as high on TT's board as anyone, he'll fill a need and I would guess Ted Thompson will take the best OL over the 3rd best Safety.
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 9:39:08 AM(UTC)
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Oh Hoss, I hope not.
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:06:34 AM(UTC)
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I don't think so.

Of all the mock's I have seen one thing is in common and that is Dix, Pryor, or Mosely are still on the board at #21. IF this does not turn out to be the case and all three do get picked ahead of us then there's more than a good chance that a really good player has slipped down. Someone better than Su'a Filo that most mocks don't pick before late 1st round at best.

The teams often mentioned that could take a Safety are the Rams at #13 and the Bears at #14. Personally, I think we find out that in a deep draft, with all the talent out there, this is too early to go Safety. I see need having to override BPA to an extreme. There's going to be four or Five QB's going before these two teams pick so there will be some STUDS at other positions available.

I predict either Dix or Mosely is there at #21. Now what Ted Thompson does with that is a whole different ball game. All I can say is if my prediction holds true and one of these two are there and Ted Thompson doesn't pull the trigger he would be holding true to the BPA concept...and he better damn well turn out right on it.

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#4 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:32:29 AM(UTC)
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I've predicted that Ted would take a C, high in this draft.
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 11:36:20 AM(UTC)
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I don't think it will be any O-Lineman in the first round, and I doubt they take a Center the first day if at all.

The fact that Ted did not get a Safety in free agency pretty much seals the deal that he will draft one in the first round. The fact that Dix and Pryor were available in those mock drafts is good news. I think I like Pryor more than Dix, but either would be good - or Mosely too, but the ILB need is less immediate.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 11:52:14 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker Go to Quoted Post
I don't think it will be any O-Lineman in the first round, and I doubt they take a Center the first day if at all.

The fact that Ted did not get a Safety in free agency pretty much seals the deal that he will draft one in the first round. The fact that Dix and Pryor were available in those mock drafts is good news. I think I like Pryor more than Dix, but either would be good - or Mosely too, but the ILB need is less immediate.


i'll agree with you. but i just want to point out the first round is the only round on the first day of the draft.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 11:59:24 AM(UTC)
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I've watched a bit of Calvin Pryor and I like what I see. A hard-hitting safety with great hands. I've also watched Mosely and he looks impressive. Chris Borland might be the best bet for ILB and he's projected to go in the second or third round.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:04:06 PM(UTC)
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We've got IMO one of the best guard combos in the league.

Why mess with it? Especially with Lang's contract, he will not be on the bench.



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Offline OlHoss1884  
#9 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:09:47 PM(UTC)
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I would much prefer Dix or Pryor, but I do not believe either will be on the board at 21. I have seen mocks predicting Nix the DT fro Notre Dame as well, but I think they'll go interior line for my reasoning above.
Ted Thompson consistently drafts best available, not necessarily by need, so I don't see them grabbing a DT or OT or even S if the best 2 or 3 are off the board at those spots as they are expected to be.

To be honest I would love to trade up and grab Pryor but Ted Thompson likes to keep all his later picks.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:19:53 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gbguy20 Go to Quoted Post
i'll agree with you. but i just want to point out the first round is the only round on the first day of the draft.


Yeah, I forgot about that prime time first round thing hahahaha. OK, no center the first two days.

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#11 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:26:16 PM(UTC)
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How about trading back if Mosely, Pryor, Dix and/or Nix are all taken? Take Jimmie Ward and stock up on picks in a draft that's very deep. Aaron Donald also intrigues me esepcially if we are going to play a multi-D.
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:18:42 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884 Go to Quoted Post
He's the highest rated interior lineman in the draft, can play OG or OT, and none of the mocks show anyone picking him earlier.

David Yankey may have something to say about that.

The odds of Pryor, Clinton-Dix, Mosley, Nix, or even Ebron all being off the board by the time Green Bay picks is slim.
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 3:29:01 PM(UTC)
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I say we trade back to early 2nd and grab borland and a safety later
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 3:55:18 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884 Go to Quoted Post


He's the highest rated interior lineman in the draft, can play OG or OT, and none of the mocks show anyone picking him earlier.



That's one thing I look for when I look at mock drafts. Since I don't know these guys from Adam I rely on the experts to inform me.

If I see one expert predicting a player that several other experts have going to teams before the Packers I think "OK, this guy might not be such a bad pick. Lots of guys have him going before the Packers pick at 21"

If I see a player that no one predicts will go before the Packers pick I can't help but wonder why. Is he a big reach at #21. Sometimes I'll look and see a bunch of experts listing him 2 or 3 or 4 places behind and think "OK, that's not so bad. Someone has to take him and if they would take him at 24 or 25 or 26 maybe 21 isn't so bad"

Obviously an interior lineman isn't usually that high on anyone's board so it makes it a little more difficult to use my approach than say with a skill position player or a D- lineman or D back but it works for me.

Usually however I just wait until Ted makes the pick and hope he hits one out of the park. In truth its all we really can do anyway.
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:06:16 PM(UTC)
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Hyde is already a better safety prospect than either of those Prior or Dix. A third round safety maybe. I think we take a TE or WR in the first round if one falls. We're going to have a pass rush this season and our safeties are not going to look nearly as bad as last year.
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:09:26 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: porky88 Go to Quoted Post
David Yankey may have something to say about that.

The odds of Pryor, Clinton-Dix, Mosley, Nix, or even Ebron all being off the board by the time Green Bay picks is slim.


I looked at Yankey but he has a lot of flaws and he's rated as a 2nd rounder. He might be a consideration if they trade down.

I think Clinton-Dix, Mosley and Pryor are certainly going to be gone, but Nix may not.

Ultimately it will be a matter of seeing if someone slips. Will there be a B or Pass Rusher run? With a deep draft it could go a lot of ways.

There are some good big wideouts on the board and some big DB's as well...that looks like our round 2 to me. I see a C in round 3, TE in round 4 and some lineman and LB's later.
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:22:56 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: porky88 Go to Quoted Post
David Yankey may have something to say about that.

The odds of Pryor, Clinton-Dix, Mosley, Nix, or even Ebron all being off the board by the time Green Bay picks is slim.


Yeah I was going to say that it will be the old BOA because we will have to see who is still there when their spot comes up.
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:32:13 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Scuba_Steve747 Go to Quoted Post
How about trading back if Mosely, Pryor, Dix and/or Nix are all taken? Take Jimmie Ward and stock up on picks in a draft that's very deep. Aaron Donald also intrigues me esepcially if we are going to play a multi-D.


Trade back to mid-20s to take Ward? I've been seeing mocks with him going in that range. Or do you think he'll be there in the early 2nd?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Hyde is already a better safety prospect than either of those Prior or Dix. A third round safety maybe. I think we take a TE or WR in the first round if one falls. We're going to have a pass rush this season and our safeties are not going to look nearly as bad as last year.


How many game reps did Hyde have at S last year? And he might be better than Pryor or Clinton-Dix but I doubt he's better than Ward.
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#19 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 5:40:39 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884 Go to Quoted Post
I looked at Yankey but he has a lot of flaws and he's rated as a 2nd rounder. He might be a consideration if they trade down.

I think Clinton-Dix, Mosley and Pryor are certainly going to be gone, but Nix may not.

Ultimately it will be a matter of seeing if someone slips. Will there be a B or Pass Rusher run? With a deep draft it could go a lot of ways.

There are some good big wideouts on the board and some big DB's as well...that looks like our round 2 to me. I see a C in round 3, TE in round 4 and some lineman and LB's later.

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#20 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 5:42:20 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: porky88 Go to Quoted Post
The only thing certain about the NFL draft is nothing is certain.


Not even Ted Thompson trading down at least once through the draft? Think
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#21 Posted : Thursday, March 20, 2014 5:53:01 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Hyde is already a better safety prospect than either of those Prior or Dix. A third round safety maybe. I think we take a TE or WR in the first round if one falls. We're going to have a pass rush this season and our safeties are not going to look nearly as bad as last year.


I agree with this. Could easily see WR in the 1st.
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#22 Posted : Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:25:46 AM(UTC)
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I don't see us taking a WR or a TE in the first round and probably not at all above the last couple of rounds. There's just no way the first round pick won't be either Safety or ILB. Safety, especially, the need is so obvious, and nothing was done in free agency. And I HOPE he doesn't pull that trading down crap again this year. Trading up if a great player is there for the taking, that would be good. My best guess is we get Pryor without trading up.
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#23 Posted : Thursday, March 20, 2014 8:00:24 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker Go to Quoted Post
I don't see us taking a WR or a TE in the first round and probably not at all above the last couple of rounds. There's just no way the first round pick won't be either Safety or ILB. Safety, especially, the need is so obvious, and nothing was done in free agency. And I HOPE he doesn't pull that trading down crap again this year. Trading up if a great player is there for the taking, that would be good. My best guess is we get Pryor without trading up.


It would be dumb to take a S if say 3 or 4 S are already off the board. Not that that's likely but the point is you don't just go into it saying "I need this position no matter what". Also it's not like the trading down thing has been bad for us actually it's worked out pretty good (Jordy/Lacy). If it comes to your pick and no players stands out on your board what is the harm of trading back?
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#24 Posted : Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:31:39 AM(UTC)
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In the 1st round, since 2007, the Packers have always taken a linemen or 3-4 OLB (which get used like linemen in the nickel and dime packages and nickel is the most often played package in todays NFL, the 3-4 OLB are basically stand-up 4-2 DE linemen as well).
Ted Thompson has taken interior O-linemen in the 2nd and 3rd round (Colledge and Spitz) but since 2007 the higher interior O-linemen has been taken in the 4th round and Ted Thompson seems to be pretty good in the 4th round (Sitton, Lang, Bakhtiari, Tretter, Barbrebust)


Packers also seem to have a number of guys that can hopefully play the 3-4 DE spot.


So my first guesses are they're going to be looking at NT and OT... as Bulaga, Raji and Sherrod* only have one for sure year left on their contract ( * = Sherrod has a "Club Option" for 2015 season... I don't know how much money that option would be for, so I don't know how likely or unlikely it is for them to pick up)




Raji only has one year left... and if they want their NT to play two gap, they could use a pick to improve their future options. Boyd and Worthy might be able to play two gap very well, but I haven't seen enough of them doing it for me to say that. If they're switching to a scheme that has their NT play a lot of one gap then they're probably fine as Daniels could probably play one gap there pretty well.


While in theory the Packers will resign Bulaga, they might not offer as much as he would like if he can't stay healthy enough and could go else where. Same with Sherrod, they might choose not the pick up that option bonus.


With adding all these 3-4 DE / 3-4 OLB types (Datone, Neal, Peppers, etc) some fans are wondering if the ILBers might get on the field less, and the might have Matthews rushing up the middle more while these guys rush the edges.


And Safety seemed to need a upgrade and they haven't done it (yet). So there will probably be a Safety taken in the draft, but Mike McCarthy has talked about getting Hyde on the field for defense anyways possible, and hopefully with healthy Shields, Williams and Hayward, the easiest way to get him on the field might be as a Safety. If that's their plan, they may feel less needing to get a Safety compared to the fans.
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#25 Posted : Thursday, March 20, 2014 11:27:56 AM(UTC)
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Also some are projecting the TEs to fall and not go nearly as high as fans think they will. It'd be interesting if all the TEs were still on the board would the Packers grab one or wait until later.
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