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Offline Scuba_Steve747  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:08:17 PM(UTC)

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Just two things I read on rotoworld that I found interesting.



The Packers want to take Randall Cobb out of the return job.
It's excellent news for Cobb's fantasy prospects. His attention will be fully devoted to the passing game, where the slot man is a very legit threat for 100 catches. He also won't be risking injury during high-impact returns. Cobb has been one of the game's best return men over the last three season, averaging 26.2 yards per kickoff return and 10.2 per punt.



A source tells ESPN that free agent KR Devin Hester is seeking $4 million per season.
It's a laughable request from a 31-year-old return specialist. If Hester lowers his price, he's expected to draw interest from the Falcons, Dolphins, Chiefs and Packers. Green Bay is looking to get Randall Cobb off returns so he can focus solely on offense.

I'm all for Hester and his asking price will come down.
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:31:27 PM(UTC)

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Would be interesting. While his price is to high, with how less important KR has become, but having him returning punts, and I am sure McCarthy could figure a to use him in the passing game.

With how we have been using the WR screen, you throw Hester on the edge with Jordy, Boykin and Quarless to block for him, while leaving Cobb spread wide on the opposite side. Defense would need to respect the screen to Hester which should guarantee single coverage for Cobb opposite. Give Rodgers his choice.
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 1:07:48 PM(UTC)

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I see two problems with picking up Hester (three if you count his current salary expectations):

1. He's a one-trick pony. IMO he was seriously underwhelming as a WR. Below average route runner. Even less as a DB.

2. Blocking by packer special teams has been uneven at best. Travis Williams would have trouble breaking big returns with great frequency.

I do like the idea that Cobb won't be on return duties, though. Especially since he's effectively 1B receiver now.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 3:03:17 PM(UTC)

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Wade said: Go to Quoted Post
I see two problems with picking up Hester (three if you count his current salary expectations):

1. He's a one-trick pony. IMO he was seriously underwhelming as a WR. Below average route runner. Even less as a DB.

2. Blocking by packer special teams has been uneven at best. Travis Williams would have trouble breaking big returns with great frequency.

I do like the idea that Cobb won't be on return duties, though. Especially since he's effectively 1B receiver now.


Well according to some, with Rodgers throwing to him, he should be all-pro...

Who better to beat the crap out of returning than an Ex-Bear.
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 3:28:59 PM(UTC)

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Is this a surprise? They tried to do it last year but i think only Cobb's injury succeeded in accomplishing the task.

I want no part of Devin Hester even if he is cheap. He has one goal in mind and that is to break the record. He will try to return every kick possible and he may break a long one every now and then but more likely we will be starting from deep in our own territory as a result of his poor decisions. His record stats for yards last season were a result of his returning a record number of kicks.

Personally I rather see if Jacoby Ford has anything to offer. He didn't do much last season after missing 2012 with a lisfranc but he did have 3 kick return TDs in 2010 and 1 in 2011 in only 11 return attempts.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:13:22 PM(UTC)

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Hester wants $4 million a year. Coincidentally, so do I, and I am just as likely to get it.

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#7 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:50:35 PM(UTC)

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I can see it now. Bears and Packers tied at 21. 35 seconds to go.

3rd and 7 from midfield. Cutler back to pass. 5 step drop. Looking right. Pressure from the outside and SACKED!! Julius Peppers.

Packers timeout with 28 seconds left.

Maynard back to punt. High booming kick. Fielded at the 7 by Hester. Hester jukes past the gunner, takes off down the sideline. Cuts back to the middle through a seem. Just the punter to beat! TOUCHDOWN!

Green Bay wins. The Bears still suck.


The implosion in Chicago that would ensue would be legendary.


In all seriousness, I'd take him for about 1 mil per season. He won't sign for that so no thanks.
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OlHoss1884 said: Go to Quoted Post
Hester wants $4 million a year. Coincidentally, so do I, and I am just as likely to get it.



But he would probably average 5 more yards per return than you would.

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#9 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 6:41:14 PM(UTC)

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mi_keys said: Go to Quoted Post
I can see it now. Bears and Packers tied at 21. 35 seconds to go.

3rd and 7 from midfield. Cutler back to pass. 5 step drop. Looking right. Pressure from the outside and SACKED!! Julius Peppers.

Packers timeout with 28 seconds left.

Maynard back to punt. High booming kick. Fielded at the 7 by Hester. Hester jukes past the gunner, takes off down the sideline. Cuts back to the middle through a seem. Just the punter to beat! TOUCHDOWN!

Green Bay wins. The Bears still suck.


The implosion in Chicago that would ensue would be legendary.


In all seriousness, I'd take him for about 1 mil per season. He won't sign for that so no thanks.


more likely it would end like this. Fielded at the 7 by Hester. he runs right, back to the 5, back to the 3, he cuts upfield, runs to his left, to the 5 to the 7 cuts back left, back to the 5 back, to the 3 cuts right, cuts left, looks around like he hasn't got a clue what to do and is finally brought down at the 1 jumps up and down like he just won the lottery (which at 4 million per year he might as well have)

I like the Peppers sack though, I could see that happening.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:06:33 PM(UTC)

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Wade said: Go to Quoted Post
I see two problems with picking up Hester (three if you count his current salary expectations):

1. He's a one-trick pony. IMO he was seriously underwhelming as a WR. Below average route runner. Even less as a DB.

2. Blocking by packer special teams has been uneven at best. Travis Williams would have trouble breaking big returns with great frequency.

I do like the idea that Cobb won't be on return duties, though. Especially since he's effectively 1B receiver now.


Iirc, he was originally a DB, but they switched him to offense. That's why he's always sucked, imo. Maybe he could play S. Or be the dime guy.

I might take him over Jarrett Bush. Dare I say it.
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 9:34:04 PM(UTC)

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I believe I read that the rules people suggested moving the kickoff another 5 yards closer (which doesn't mean the NFL will pass it). If passed I think most kickoffs will go out of the end zone and you don't really have to worry about a kick off returner (and I'm hoping one of the WR/RB will solve that, maybe RB Harris or RB Franklin?)


And the best two pun return averages from last year (of those with at least 3 pun returns were)

1)WR Jeremy Ross
2) WR Tandon Doss

I think we all know about Ross so I'm not going to get into that...

In 2013 Ravens cut Doss, and Packers brought him in for a visit/workout and didn't sign him. Ravens resigned him... and he was a FA this off-season and signed for two-year, $1.505 million contract (less than a million a year). If the Packers wanted a cheap good punt returner (that's bad on offense) they could of had one of the best.

And also for kick returner S Quintin Demps had one of the best kick return averages last year and he's been a very good #3 vet Safety and stop gap starter if they wanted one. He signed but it hasn't been released how much yet (I don't think).


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#12 Posted : Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:02:38 AM(UTC)

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I actually really like Jacoby Ford.

(He's great in Madden)
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#13 Posted : Thursday, March 20, 2014 5:22:54 AM(UTC)

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beast said: Go to Quoted Post
I believe I read that the rules people suggested moving the kickoff another 5 yards closer (which doesn't mean the NFL will pass it). If passed I think most kickoffs will go out of the end zone and you don't really have to worry about a kick off returner (and I'm hoping one of the WR/RB will solve that, maybe RB Harris or RB Franklin?)


And the best two pun return averages from last year (of those with at least 3 pun returns were)

1)WR Jeremy Ross
2) WR Tandon Doss

I think we all know about Ross so I'm not going to get into that...

In 2013 Ravens cut Doss, and Packers brought him in for a visit/workout and didn't sign him. Ravens resigned him... and he was a FA this off-season and signed for two-year, $1.505 million contract (less than a million a year). If the Packers wanted a cheap good punt returner (that's bad on offense) they could of had one of the best.

And also for kick returner S Quintin Demps had one of the best kick return averages last year and he's been a very good #3 vet Safety and stop gap starter if they wanted one. He signed but it hasn't been released how much yet (I don't think).




Fuck Ross.

Dude is just NOT clutch. He's got skills, but when the pressure is on, he melts down.
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#14 Posted : Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:35:51 AM(UTC)

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It would seem to me that DuJuan Harris would be the best candidate as a kick and punt returner. If he for whatever reason doesn't look good there, Hyde was adequate, maybe more than adequate last season. Also, I have gotten increasingly negative about Jonathan Franklin, but there really shouldn't be any reason why a guy with his measureables can't be trained in camp as a returner. If not that, then what? - I don't see him as better than the 4th RB.
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Would be a complete waste with the way the league continues to seem obsessed with functionally eliminating the kickoff. Now they're talking about moving the kickoff up to the 40, which means just about every kick's going out the back of the endzone.
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