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User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#1 Posted : Friday, March 21, 2014 9:53:16 AM(UTC)
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One loose end still there in free agency is Matt Flynn. There has been very little said or done - which to me, seems like a good thing. I see Scott Tolzien as having a much better upside than Flynn. I'd like to see Tolzien benefit from a full off-season and training camp, and Flynn not re-signed.
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I would have to see them both playing in the pre-season to make a decent guess. RIGHT NOW? Matt Flynn. After Scott Tolzien gets a full off season under the Packers system and school? I don't know until I see it.
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I hope The Packers don't go with Tolzien and a rookie this year.

Could be tolzien is the guy for the future, but do we really wanrt to go through another QB shuffle like last year as Ted and Mike realize the guys they have aren't the answer?

Flynn seems to be a one team, one system guy.

Which is good for The Packers, he can come in, in a pinch and lead the team to wins, Tolzien hopefully can also, but still to much uknown to go into another year with no proven, veteran backup.
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It all comes down to Money. How much would it cost to keep Flynn. He is likely to get an offer to at least go somewhere to add competition to start that it would be unwise to match.

Tolzien with the little experience he has, seems well ahead of where Flynn was his first couple years. I would like to have Flynn around to help teach Tolzien the offense.
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texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
One loose end still there in free agency is Matt Flynn. There has been very little said or done - which to me, seems like a good thing. I see Scott Tolzien as having a much better upside than Flynn. I'd like to see Tolzien benefit from a full off-season and training camp, and Flynn not re-signed.


I agree Tolzien seems like he has more physical potential, but B. J. Coleman and Vince Young both had more physical potential than either of them... it takes more than just physical potential at QB.

Tolzien has the arm for some of the longer passes, but when they take away the longer passes he starts struggling. Flynn struggles to throw the longer passes but can be consistantly decent no matter what they take away.

So I say it all depeneds on how well Tolzien devolops and Mike McCarthy has talked about how he's had to cut QB school down because the CBA limits how many OTA weeks they have and I think Mike McCarthy said that cut about 3 weeks off his QB camp.

Mike McCarthy has talked about going into camp with 4 QBs (again) which he has done the last two years but hasn't done. But that could be partly due to the fact the 4th QB one year rumorly was really struggling and they released him and the next year the 4th QB got injured and couldn't practice so they release him.
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beast said: Go to Quoted Post
I agree Tolzien seems like he has more physical potential, but B. J. Coleman and Vince Young both had more physical potential than either of them... it takes more than just physical potential at QB.

Tolzien has the arm for some of the longer passes, but when they take away the longer passes he starts struggling. Flynn struggles to throw the longer passes but can be consistantly decent no matter what they take away.

So I say it all depeneds on how well Tolzien devolops and Mike McCarthy has talked about how he's had to cut QB school down because the CBA limits how many OTA weeks they have and I think Mike McCarthy said that cut about 3 weeks off his QB camp.


Mike McCarthy has talked about going into camp with 4 QBs (again) which he has done the last two years but hasn't done. But that could be partly due to the fact the 4th QB one year rumorly was really struggling and they released him and the next year the 4th QB got injured and couldn't practice so they release him.


Tolzien has the skills, like Coleman and Young, but he is was not up to speed on the offense, and has not gone through Mike's QB School. He got it done throwing long, but Mike had him forcing the ball short in such predictable fashion that JPP called out the screen in the defensive huddle before he picked six'd it.

Flynn might want one more chance to start somewhere. Doesn't seem like he'll get it, but after the draft, some team might make him an offer. He's more like the Doug Pederson or Zeke Bratkowski of our era.

Tolzien is more like Hasselbeck 2.0. You get to keep Flynn around, but his physical tools are limited. Tolzien has more upside potential, but you're going to end up trading him for a draft pick in a year or two. You hope.
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Flynn has no value outside of GB, and nobody wants him to start.

3 teams kicked him before letting him on the field.
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Is there a third choice? If not, then I go with Flynn and Tolzien to the practice squad.
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PackFanWithTwins said: Go to Quoted Post
It all comes down to Money. How much would it cost to keep Flynn. He is likely to get an offer to at least go somewhere to add competition to start that it would be unwise to match.

Tolzien with the little experience he has, seems well ahead of where Flynn was his first couple years. I would like to have Flynn around to help teach Tolzien the offense.


Who better than Rodgers and McCarthy to teach Tolzien the offense.
That said, I'd like to have Flynn around for another year.
He's a proven commodity as a backup in Green Bay.
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yooperfan said: Go to Quoted Post
Who better than Rodgers and McCarthy to teach Tolzien the offense.
That said, I'd like to have Flynn around for another year.
He's a proven commodity as a backup in Green Bay.


I'd rather Rodgers and McCarthy concentrate on winning games and let Flynn help Tolzien.
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