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Offline Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Thursday, April 3, 2014 6:55:43 PM(UTC)
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  1. Patriots (51-13)
  2. Packers (44-19-1)
  3. 49ers (42-21-1)
  4. Ravens (42-22)
  5. Saints (42-22)
  6. Falcons (40-24)
  7. Steelers (40-24)
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#2 Posted : Thursday, April 3, 2014 7:12:06 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post


  1. Patriots (51-13)
  2. Packers (44-19-1)
  3. 49ers (42-21-1)
  4. Ravens (42-22)
  5. Saints (42-22)
  6. Falcons (40-24)
  7. Steelers (40-24)


How many did we lose when Aaron when down? 6? Pretty close to the Patriots.

We need to get and stay healthy. Bottom line.
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#3 Posted : Friday, April 4, 2014 2:02:23 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post


  1. Patriots (51-13)
  2. Packers (44-19-1)
  3. 49ers (42-21-1)
  4. Ravens (42-22)
  5. Saints (42-22)
  6. Falcons (40-24)
  7. Steelers (40-24)


What I find amazing is how the Patriots do it as a team. Can anyone name a wr other than Welker for the Patriots during that time? They have been slipping the past 2 years they only won 12 games in each season.



The Packers record is very deceiving seeing out of the 4 years we only had 1 that we had more than 12 wins.
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#4 Posted : Friday, April 4, 2014 2:09:20 PM(UTC)
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#5 Posted : Friday, April 4, 2014 2:47:31 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dhazer Go to Quoted Post
What I find amazing is how the Patriots do it as a team. Can anyone name a wr other than Welker for the Patriots during that time? They have been slipping the past 2 years they only won 12 games in each season.



The Packers record is very deceiving seeing out of the 4 years we only had 1 that we had more than 12 wins.


How exactly is it misleading? We have 44 wins in 4 years. 11 wins a year. So why would you expect in a sample size of 4 to get a bunch of seasons with over 12 wins if the average is 11?
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#6 Posted : Friday, April 4, 2014 4:52:14 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dhazer Go to Quoted Post
What I find amazing is how the Patriots do it as a team. Can anyone name a wr other than Welker for the Patriots during that time? They have been slipping the past 2 years they only won 12 games in each season.



The Packers record is very deceiving seeing out of the 4 years we only had 1 that we had more than 12 wins.


NE has also only had another team in their division make the playoffs 1 time in that stretch while the NFC N has had 3 and another miss the playoffs with 10 wins. I don't really see the huge difference between 11 wins and 12 wins if it gets you in the playoffs either way.
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Offline DakotaT  
#7 Posted : Friday, April 4, 2014 6:36:47 PM(UTC)
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All that list says to me is that the Packers, Ravens, and Saints won a Super Bowl - the rest of them just won games.
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#8 Posted : Friday, April 4, 2014 7:25:27 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dhazer Go to Quoted Post
Can anyone name a wr other than Welker for the Patriots during that time?


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#9 Posted : Friday, April 4, 2014 9:31:05 PM(UTC)
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Whenever I see stats like this I always wonder why they chose that particular year. Why choose 2010. Why not 2009 or 2008 or 2011?

Of those on the list only the Saints had more wins than the Packers in 2009 so it would look even better for the Packers if they went back to 2009. Can't do 2008 though because we only won 6 games that year.
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#10 Posted : Saturday, April 5, 2014 3:31:57 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mi_keys Go to Quoted Post
How exactly is it misleading? We have 44 wins in 4 years. 11 wins a year. So why would you expect in a sample size of 4 to get a bunch of seasons with over 12 wins if the average is 11?


Because he's Dhazer and he paints whatever picture he wants. That's just what he does, especially if it somehow lessens any accomplishment the Packers have had, for some reason. Just a real negative guy, I suppose. It probably extends beyond just the NFL.
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#11 Posted : Saturday, April 5, 2014 3:33:48 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: sschind Go to Quoted Post
Whenever I see stats like this I always wonder why they chose that particular year. Why choose 2010. Why not 2009 or 2008 or 2011?

Of those on the list only the Saints had more wins than the Packers in 2009 so it would look even better for the Packers if they went back to 2009. Can't do 2008 though because we only won 6 games that year.


Why not choose 1990 or 1972? A specific date has to be picked and in this case it's just meant to be somewhat representative of recent history, I suppose. Perhaps the best thing would be to show multiple time frames for a more complete picture.
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#12 Posted : Saturday, April 5, 2014 3:52:29 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DoddPower Go to Quoted Post
Because he's Dhazer and he paints whatever picture he wants. That's just what he does, especially if it somehow lessens any accomplishment the Packers have had, for some reason. Just a real negative guy, I suppose. It probably extends beyond just the NFL.


I know. I've been here long enough to know he does that. Doesn't mean I don't like pointing out the bullshit.
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#13 Posted : Saturday, April 5, 2014 3:58:28 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DoddPower Go to Quoted Post
Because he's Dhazer and he paints whatever picture he wants. That's just what he does, especially if it somehow lessens any accomplishment the Packers have had, for some reason. Just a real negative guy, I suppose. It probably extends beyond just the NFL.




ok the Packers had a 15 win season in there that throws off the whole thing


10-6
15-1
11-5
8-7-1


Then look at the Pats

14-2
13-3
12-4
12-4

Ummm what team looks more constant? Btw Look at the Pats record back to 2001 when Brady took over. The worst record was 9-7 and only missed the playoffs twice and one of the times they missed the playoffs their record was 11-5 with a backup qb all season.

They average 12.5 wins a year now thats impressive. Even though they did cheat lol
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#14 Posted : Saturday, April 5, 2014 4:05:05 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dhazer Go to Quoted Post
ok the Packers had a 15 win season in there that throws off the whole thing


10-6
15-1
11-5
8-7-1


Then look at the Pats

14-2
13-3
12-4
12-4

Ummm what team looks more constant? Btw Look at the Pats record back to 2001 when Brady took over. The worst record was 9-7 and only missed the playoffs twice and one of the times they missed the playoffs their record was 11-5 with a backup qb all season.

They average 12.5 wins a year now thats impressive. Even though they did cheat lol


Yeah, and we have an 8 win season in there. The average is 11 and the median is 10.5.

The pats are the exception with their consistency. That's why we still have the second best record over that time period. Now let's win another title this year and make it count for something.
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#15 Posted : Saturday, April 5, 2014 4:17:44 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mi_keys Go to Quoted Post
Yeah, and we have an 8 win season in there. The average is 11 and the median is 10.5.

The pats are the exception with their consistency. That's why we still have the second best record over that time period. Now let's win another title this year and make it count for something.


Looking at it all and I guess regular season don't mean shit as long as you make the playoffs

going back to the 2008 season the average super bowl winner had 11 wins in the season so i guess we are right on average
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#16 Posted : Saturday, April 5, 2014 4:47:33 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dhazer Go to Quoted Post
Looking at it all and I guess regular season don't mean shit as long as you make the playoffs

going back to the 2008 season the average super bowl winner had 11 wins in the season so i guess we are right on average


Get in and anything can happen. Especially with the parity in the league these days.
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#17 Posted : Saturday, April 5, 2014 9:13:22 PM(UTC)
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Get in and anything can happen. Especially with the parity in the league these days.


1: Get in.

2: Get a week off.

3: Get a home game.

4: Home field advantage.
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#18 Posted : Sunday, April 6, 2014 5:37:41 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DoddPower Go to Quoted Post
Why not choose 1990 or 1972? A specific date has to be picked and in this case it's just meant to be somewhat representative of recent history, I suppose. Perhaps the best thing would be to show multiple time frames for a more complete picture.


Yeah but usually when they make such comments they are trying to make a specific point about something. If they are trying to show the Packers specifically why not do your full research and go back one more year which would make the stats look even better. Maybe he was trying to show the Patriots in a better light so he chose 2010. That's why I said I wonder why he chose that year. You are right though. It could have just been chosen at random.
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#19 Posted : Sunday, April 6, 2014 6:18:29 AM(UTC)
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#20 Posted : Sunday, April 6, 2014 6:24:16 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post


  1. Patriots (51-13)
  2. Packers (44-19-1)
  3. 49ers (42-21-1)
  4. Ravens (42-22)
  5. Saints (42-22)
  6. Falcons (40-24)
  7. Steelers (40-24)


It is pretty impressive, all things considering. And, as nerdmann said, this with Rodgers being out a significant 6 games last season. Now, to better our playoff record. Maybe that starts this season!
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#21 Posted : Sunday, April 6, 2014 6:53:12 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: sschind Go to Quoted Post
Yeah but usually when they make such comments they are trying to make a specific point about something. If they are trying to show the Packers specifically why not do your full research and go back one more year which would make the stats look even better. Maybe he was trying to show the Patriots in a better light so he chose 2010. That's why I said I wonder why he chose that year. You are right though. It could have just been chosen at random.


Maybe they are simply tracking the current decade?
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#22 Posted : Sunday, April 6, 2014 9:08:48 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
1: Get in.

2: Get a week off.

3: Get a home game.

4: Home field advantage.


OR:

1) Get in

2) Get Healthy

3) Be playing your best football

It seems like the odds of winning once your in the playoffs is just about as good for a low seed that has gotten on fire as it is for a team that got to rest and played at home.

I guess this is a testimony to the "any team that's in can win" theory.
However, a team can be 12-4 or 9-7 but if they roll into the playoffs beat up or say lost 2 out of their last three before the playoffs you can usually expect an early exit.

Get hot at the right time and just win, baby. You can be a playoff team but you have to be playoff ready. I thought last year the Packers were with all the bullshit injuries and had Neal and Shields not gone down on top of Mathews, Jolly, I think we would have beaten the 49'rs and from there who knows?

I liked the heart of the team. Talent wasn't always there when they started going down like flies but there wasn't any quit in them.

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