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Offline sschind  
#1 Posted : Sunday, April 27, 2014 6:59:36 PM(UTC)
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I've seen several mocks lately that have the Packers taking Jenkins at #21. Since I don't know anything about most of these guys I rely on your expertise (or maybe its your ability to bullshhit me) on such things. What say you all to Jenkins at 21. I know it depends a lot on who is still available but try to disregard that for this purpose. Is Jenkins a good pick at 21? It seems that he was slated as a 2nd rounder not long ago by most "experts"
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#2 Posted : Sunday, April 27, 2014 7:16:36 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: sschind Go to Quoted Post
I've seen several mocks lately that have the Packers taking Jenkins at #21. Since I don't know anything about most of these guys I rely on your expertise (or maybe its your ability to bullshhit me) on such things. What say you all to Jenkins at 21. I know it depends a lot on who is still available but try to disregard that for this purpose. Is Jenkins a good pick at 21? It seems that he was slated as a 2nd rounder not long ago by most "experts"


All projections I have seen have him being available in rnd 2 for The Packers if they would want him.

JMHO, but Jenkins at #21 would be a real reach, Ebron may fall to 21, and if he does, that would probably mean there was a run on defensive players with the top 20 picks(not what The Packers want).

Ebron at #21 yes, Jenkins no. Jenkins at #53, a real possibility.

Of course if Ebron is the BPA at #21, then look for Ted to find a trading partner to move down and pick up an extra 2nd rnd pick.

This draft is said to be loaded with exceptional talent throughout, so it is very tough to predict exactly what is going to happen.

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#3 Posted : Sunday, April 27, 2014 7:23:01 PM(UTC)
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Offline Yerko  
#4 Posted : Sunday, April 27, 2014 7:42:40 PM(UTC)
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If ASJ is selected at 21, I will rip my damn eyes out.

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#5 Posted : Sunday, April 27, 2014 8:00:46 PM(UTC)
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I've seen him slotted to the Packers in the 1st round on multiple mock drafts recently, especially those at nfl.com. I don't see it. I'd love him in the second round though.
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#6 Posted : Sunday, April 27, 2014 9:23:45 PM(UTC)
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I like the guy as a TE but I don't really like any TE in the 1st round. I would rather just run with Quarless and Bostick than use an early pick on a TE unless it's a well rounded one in the 3rd ish area who is going to bring more to the table than just decent #3/4 receiver production at best.
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Offline Laser Gunns  
#7 Posted : Sunday, April 27, 2014 11:58:16 PM(UTC)
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Offline porky88  
#8 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 2:44:54 AM(UTC)
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An injured foot prevented Seferian-Jenkins from participating in any pre-draft event. Nevertheless, he is the most complete tight end in this draft with a skill set that mirrors New England’s Rob Gronkowski. He has the prototype size (6-foot-5, 262 pounds) and athleticism to emerge as a big-time NFL starting tight end. He has the versatility to lineup outside as a receiver or in-line as a traditional tight end. He’s a natural pass catcher and capable of making acrobatic plays on the football. He’s also a good route runner. In conclusion, Seferian-Jenkins will represent one of the best value picks of this draft class. He’s the total package at an ever-evolving position. He exhibits the athleticism and fluidity of today’s breed of tight end, yet his size, toughness, and red zone ability gives him an old-school flavor.

That is my amateur scouting report on him. Keep in mind, had Gronk went in the first round, many would’ve booed the pick because the media had him as a day two player.

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Offline play2win  
#9 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 4:56:18 AM(UTC)
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If ASJ is selected at 21, I will rip my damn eyes out.

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Offline sschind  
#10 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 5:52:38 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for the replies. what you have all said is pretty much what I had gathered.

I did read that report Dakota and it meshed with several others I have read as well. The thing is with most of these reports they seam rather mechanical that's why I asked you guys. It seems like he needs more development than one would like out of a first rounder, even at 21.

As far as Ebron goes I have rarely seen a mock that has him available but you are right buckeye, I don't know if Ted would draft him if he could trade him away and get more picks. Of course I don't know if there is a single player that is projected to be available that would cause Ted to say "screw the trade we are taking this guy." Maybe if Dix or Pryor falls but I've seen enough negatives on Pryor to think that Ted might even consider trading him away.

We shall know soon. We would have known by now if they hadn't moved the draft back.

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#11 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 8:45:41 AM(UTC)
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No way do I see this guy as BPA at 21 with all the talent in this draft.
This would be a move back to early round 2 MAYBE pick. I think you take him at #53 if he's around and not worry about it if he's gone.

I pulled up four top 100 boards and his BEST ranking was 38 and the lowest was 56th. I know you can take these with a grain of salt but when over and over a players name does not make it into the 1st round it does start to say something.

You never know where Ted has these players at but I would not be thrilled with this pick at all. Would love to see him in the 2nd round though.
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#12 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 9:35:30 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Yerko Go to Quoted Post
If ASJ is selected at 21, I will rip my damn eyes out.

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#13 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 9:48:53 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: porky88 Go to Quoted Post
That is my amateur scouting report on him. Keep in mind, had Gronk went in the first round, many would’ve booed the pick because the media had him as a day two player.

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Offline mi_keys  
#14 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 11:06:57 AM(UTC)
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Would be a decent shout in the second round but as others have said the first round would be way too early.
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#15 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 11:50:27 AM(UTC)
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I didn't even look at this post it was so annoying to me. Sorry. it wasn't you it these pretend experts that get to me.

They say GB HAS to have a TE because Jer Mike is not there.
They don't care what the other TEs on the team are. Most of these so called experts don't do enough research to find out why the 2nd and 3rd string players are not the first string player.
They look at the TE list and see ASJ name toward the top and think that GB HAS to have him or they are doomed.
They don't care that he is a reach at 21.
They want it so they insist no matter how dumb it would be at the time.
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#16 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 11:55:38 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: porky88 Go to Quoted Post
That is my amateur scouting report on him. Keep in mind, had Gronk went in the first round, many would’ve booed the pick because the media had him as a day two player.

My Top 10 Tight Ends

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edit- BTW I don't mean to criticize your ranking Jenkins as the top TE in the list or doubt it when you say he is worthy of being a Day 1 pick.
I like your selection of Shazier better.
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#17 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 12:49:12 PM(UTC)
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I hope we get him just to spite all of you.


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#18 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 1:00:50 PM(UTC)
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Would love it if we scooped up ASJ in the 2nd round. I know a lot of people aren't down with taking a TE high in the draft but I can't get this teams red zone woes out of my head and not help but think how improving the TE position would help.
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#19 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 1:56:29 PM(UTC)
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Keeping Rodgers healthy is the key to solving our red zone woes. (#26 in 2013, #1 in 2012, #3 in 2011, etc).

ASJ would literally kill me with our first pick. No way.
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#20 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 2:07:18 PM(UTC)
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Keeping Rodgers healthy is the key to solving our red zone woes. (#26 in 2013, #1 in 2012, #3 in 2011, etc).

ASJ would literally kill me with our first pick. No way.


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#21 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 2:10:19 PM(UTC)
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IMO, S-F at 21 would be a bad pick. Ebron is the only first-round quality TE, and he'll be gone. But even if he wasn't, and even if I couldn't get a trade-down partner, I'm not sure I'd pick him.

I wouldn't pick S-F before the third. I might pick Niklas in the second half of the round, but that would only be if lots of defensive players like Tuitt, Bucannon, Attaochu, Brooks, Van Noy, Verrett are already gone. And I'd pick Tre Mason (yes, even though this is as far from a need as any position not currently held by Aaron Rodgers) or Gabe Jackson before I'd pick either of them.
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#22 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 3:03:34 PM(UTC)
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#23 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 6:38:31 PM(UTC)
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I'm fine with a TE or WR in Round 1. ASJ probably wasn't what or who I was thinking but we need to start replacing these holes on O. Finley had a hard time catching a cold but he had to be accounted for. That ain't gonna happen with Quarless...perhaps, with Bostick? JJ was a great redzone guy for us.

Get us a big ol boy who can run and catch in Round 1 and I'd be tickled. I just hope we don't end up with the next Jerron McMillian, Ahmad Carroll, or AJ Hawk in Round 1.
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#24 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2014 7:56:34 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: uffda udfa Go to Quoted Post
I'm fine with a TE or WR in Round 1. ASJ probably wasn't what or who I was thinking but we need to start replacing these holes on O. Finley had a hard time catching a cold but he had to be accounted for. That ain't gonna happen with Quarless...perhaps, with Bostick? JJ was a great redzone guy for us.

Get us a big ol boy who can run and catch in Round 1 and I'd be tickled. I just hope we don't end up with the next Jerron McMillian, Ahmad Carroll, or AJ Hawk in Round 1.


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