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Offline Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Thursday, May 8, 2014 7:33:45 PM(UTC)
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Ha’Sean Clinton-Dix | Free Safety | Alabama | 6'1" - 208 lbs.


Jersey #21

Full name: Ha’Sean "Ha Ha" Clinton-Dix
Position: Safety
Height: 6-foot-1 3/8
Weight: 208 pounds
College: Alabama
Hometown: Orlando, Fla.
Packers’ uniform number: 21
*40-yard dash time: 4.58
*Vertical jump: 33 inches
*Broad jump: 9 feet, 11 inches
*Bench press: 11 reps at 225 pounds
*Arm length: 32 3/8 inches
*Wingspan: 78 1/2 inches
Twitter handle:@haha_cd6


OVERVIEW
His full name is Ha'Sean Clinton-Dix. Elite recruit out of Florida, where he doubled as a running back and kick returner. Played in 13 games for Alabama as a true freshman in '11 and recorded 11 tackles and two pass breakups. Was a key performer for the national champions in '12, appearing in all 14 games (10 starts) at safety. Had 37 tackles, four pass breakups and five interceptions with one-half tackle for loss and one forced fumble. Tied for the SEC lead in interceptions, including picks in the SEC Championship Game win over Georgia and the BCS National Championship Game win over Notre Dame. In '13, he played in 11 games (nine starts at free safety) and totaled 51-4-2 with 3.5 tackles for loss. Received a suspension for accepting a short-term loan of less than $500 from an assistant coach, missing two games. Injured his knee against Auburn on Nov. 30, necessitating surgery on the meniscus tear, but returned to the field for the Allstate Sugar Bowl.



STRENGTHS Good size and wingspan. Quick to read and react. Enough speed and fluidity to keep pace with slot receivers or tight ends. Ranges off the hash. Good hands to intercept. Takes direct angles to the ball. Drops downhill urgently, runs the alley and does not shy from contact -- wipes out ball carriers. Secure tackler. Can break down and tackle in space. Has special-teams experience. Well-coached in a pro-style defense.

WEAKNESSES Has a narrow build and lacks ideal bulk. Could stand to get stronger. Not an elite athlete -- ordinary speed and leaping ability. Occasionally gets stuck on blocks. Could stand to iron out his pedal. Does not always play with abandon -- plays conservatively at times and can be late fitting in the run game or getting off the hash. Average ball production and playmaking ability. Not as natural in the box. Was not an exceptional ballhawk or an intimidating eraser.

DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1

BOTTOM LINE Hype exceeded his performance in Tuscaloosa, but Clinton-Dix offers starter-caliber instincts, range, coverage skills and tackling ability as a free safety. Should be a Day 1 starter.

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#2 Posted : Thursday, May 8, 2014 7:38:38 PM(UTC)
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Strengths Weaknesses
STRENGTHS: A rangy, fluid athlete, Clinton-Dix covers a lot of ground against both the pass and the run and projects to either free or strong safety. He has the aggressive nature to attack ballcarriers and shows the read/react quickness to diagnose and take accurate angles in coverage. He has plus hands for the interception and shows vision and natural open-field running skills with the ball in his hands.

Anticipates the run well, attacking the line of scrimmage to make some impressive stops up close.


WEAKNESSES: Doesn't have the preferred strength, at this time, to break free from blocks and isn't a consistently physical tackler, electing to grab and pull down ball-carriers rather than striking them forcefully.


--ROB RANG



Player Overview
Clinton-Dix was one of seven true freshmen to earn playing time in 2011 at Alabama and in 2012, he led the team with five interceptions, setting an expectation for a great junior year, and subsequent entry into the 2014 draft.

While he posted respectable numbers as a junior -- 51 tackles, two INTs, four pass breakups -- he wasn't the consistent big-play finisher he was in 2012, and his season was clouded by a two-game suspension in October for a violation of team rules.


Clinton-Dix's instincts and ability to diagnose seem better than his athletic ability, which is considerable. His rare combination of size, speed, aggression and ball skills mark him as a potential NFL star.


Birth name is Ha'Sean. Grandmother gave him the unusual name he goes by, but that talent is nothing to laugh at.

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#3 Posted : Thursday, May 8, 2014 7:41:03 PM(UTC)
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Why did this guy fall down to 21?


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#4 Posted : Thursday, May 8, 2014 7:46:38 PM(UTC)
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1. Haha Clinton-Dix*, S, Alabama
Height: 6-1. Weight: 208.
40 Time: 4.58.
Projected Round (2014): 1.
5/5/14: Sources have said that Clinton-Dix could slide because he is not an elite athlete, but he is the consensus top-ranked safety and could sneak into the top 10. There are a lot of safety-needy teams in the top 16, so it looks unlikely that Clinton-Dix slides into the 20s. Clinton-Dix is a rangy free safety who covers a lot of ground as the deep center fielder. He is superb at taking away long pass plays downfield and also can match up on tight ends. Clinton-Dix has the size and length to be used in a variety of ways. He looks like a nice value pick.

At the Combine, Clinton-Dix had a solid 40 time and looked even better in the field work. He moved well in those drills with smooth hips to turn and good feet. Clinton-Dix showed that he is a natural center fielder who covers a lot of ground.

Clinton-Dix totaled 50 tackles, two interceptions and four passes broken up in 2013. He played well against Texas A&M, Virginia Tech, Ole Miss, LSU and Mississippi State. Clinton-Dix was suspended for two games for taking a loan from an assistant, but Nick Saban reinstated him before the game against Arkansas. Clinton-Dix didn't have his best game against Auburn as he got caught on a few misdirection runs.

Clinton-Dix did some damage to his draft stock when he landed that then-indefinite suspension for taking a loan from an Alabama assistant. A week before his suspension, Clinton-Dix was excellent against Ole Miss in deep coverage on the Rebels' talented wide receivers. He had eight tackles and was very active.

8/18/13: Clinton-Dix had a breakout season in 2012 as a platoon player following Mark Barron's departure for the NFL. Clinton-Dix totaled 37 tackles with five interceptions, four passes broken up and a forced fumble.

Clinton-Dix is very good in pass coverage as a deep defender and roving free safety. He covers a lot of ground, defends big receivers and has ball skills. The junior is expected to be the difference-maker in the Alabama secondary this year now that Robert Lester has moved on to the NFL, too.

The Crimson Tide has produced a lot of good defensive backs, and Clinton-Dix looks like the next star to come out of Alabama's secondary with his combination of size and speed. The Orlando, Florida product was top recruit coming out of high school.


I am tired of giving up the big plays. hopefully he will help shut them down. TE coverage is a huge plus.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, May 8, 2014 7:46:52 PM(UTC)
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This is the pick I was totally hoping for! He looks like a guy who will fit right in from the start, and if he can live up to half the hype, he will be solid at the very least. No matter what, he should be an improvement to what the Pack put on the field last year.
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#6 Posted : Thursday, May 8, 2014 7:47:28 PM(UTC)
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Exciting, I know little about him besides a couple highlight videos but he fell to us and Ted Thompson + crew didn't overthink it. Hopefully we can now finally move on from the loss of Nick Collins.
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#7 Posted : Thursday, May 8, 2014 7:48:42 PM(UTC)
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I'm pretty sure I owe tex an apology. Said no way ha ha would fall. Glad I was wrong.
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#8 Posted : Thursday, May 8, 2014 7:57:39 PM(UTC)
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I'm pretty sure I owe tex an apology. Said no way ha ha would fall. Glad I was wrong.


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#9 Posted : Thursday, May 8, 2014 8:00:22 PM(UTC)
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im not even mad at Teddy this year lol
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#10 Posted : Thursday, May 8, 2014 8:00:51 PM(UTC)
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Ha Ha Clinton-Dix | Defensive Back
Team: Green Bay Packers
Age / DOB: (21) / 12/21/1992
Ht / Wt: 6'1' / 208
College: Alabama
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Packers selected Alabama FS Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix with the No. 21 overall pick in the 2014 NFL draft.
It was an easy pick for GM Ted Thompson, whose defense badly needed free safety help. Expect Morgan Burnett to focus on "box" duties in 2014, and Micah Hyde to stay at corner. Clinton-Dix (6-foot-1, 208) was a two-year starter in Nick Saban's secondary, recording seven career interceptions and showing flexibility as both a box and deep safety. He has plus range, is a sure tackler, and even flashed man-cover skills at Alabama. "HHCD" isn't a special athlete, but that kind of versatility at safety is coveted in a "matchup league." Clinton-Dix clocked a 4.58 forty at the Combine with a 33-inch vertical and 9-foot-11 broad jump. He could afford to add upper-body strength, managing 11 reps on the bench. Look for Clinton-Dix to be a true centerfielder under DC Dom Capers. May 8 - 10:35 PM
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#11 Posted : Thursday, May 8, 2014 8:04:06 PM(UTC)
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packersnews wrote:
The Packers filled a major need when they selected Alabama safety Ha Ha Clinton-Dix in the first round of the draft.

The Packers hope Clinton-Dix solves a problem that plagued the defense last season when M.D. Jennings and Jerron McMillian were below average in starting stints opposite Morgan Burnett.

Here is what scouts say about Clinton-Dix, according to Press-Gazette Media's Pete Dougherty: ... see link

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#12 Posted : Thursday, May 8, 2014 8:07:21 PM(UTC)
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The agreed on best free safety in the draft? Sounds good to me.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, May 8, 2014 8:08:05 PM(UTC)
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#14 Posted : Thursday, May 8, 2014 8:13:53 PM(UTC)
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si wrote:
There are times when the NFL-readiness of Alabama players is overhyped. This is not one of those times. Clinton-Dix is an explosive, special player with immense potential.

Strengths: Clinton-Dix has the two things every NFL free safety needs — great feet and impressive quickness. He backpedals and redirects smoothly and with little trouble, which allows him to stick and stay on all kinds of routes. And he’s remarkably quick when it comes to driving down in run support, as well as moving to either sideline. Keeps the action in front of him, and does his best to avoid getting shaken on any kind of misdirection, despite his generally aggressive playing style. Has the size (6-1, 208) and speed to square up on running backs and receivers and bring them down. Understands how to deal with blockers — will rarely take a hit straight on and bounces off to make a play. Tackles with excellent form; looks to wrap more than he goes for the kill shot, and he does a terrific job of extending his body to catch quicker opponents. Gives tremendous effort at all times; he’s never really eliminated from a possible tackle as long as the play is still going. Can play well everywhere from true center field to the slot.

Weaknesses: Though he’s a generally disciplined player, there are inevitable aftereffects of Clinton-Dix’s style that show up on tape. He will flat-out miss tackles at times because he’s trying so hard to get where he needs to be, and better play-fake quarterbacks might have a field day with him at the NFL level. Will occasionally lose track of his target on quick angle routes unless he’s in position to redirect.

Conclusion: To me, the most compelling part of Clinton-Dix’s game is not that he played in a pseudo-NFL system — we see guys in those systems wash out every year. The thing that makes him a special prospect is that he does so much exceptionally well, and he does everything at a plus level. His range will make him a starter from Day One, and as he develops his ball skills and tackling abilities, he has the potential to be among the best safeties in the league — and he can do so from the deep middle to the box to the slot. He’s the prototype for a very valuable position, and he’ll see the results of that with a very high pick in the first round.

NFL player comparison: Louis Delmas, Miami Dolphins (2nd round, 2009, Western Michigan, Detroit Lions)
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#15 Posted : Thursday, May 8, 2014 8:16:42 PM(UTC)
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Please, don't compare him to Nick Collins...guy is nowhere near the same kind of athlete Nick Collins was... just a depressing pick. We suck so bad at safety we draft for need to get a guy with limited athletic ability. Just gets old getting no exciting player in Round 1. Happens every fricking year.
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#16 Posted : Thursday, May 8, 2014 8:20:25 PM(UTC)
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Not nearly as unsexy as the Mosley pick would have been.

I still think they work Hyde in at S, though. Especially with the way this team can't stay healthy. We need depth, and this staff loves versatility. It saves us roster spots every year.
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#17 Posted : Thursday, May 8, 2014 8:21:17 PM(UTC)
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SBNation.com wrote:
There's a bit of a supply and demand issue in the NFL.

Teams want safeties who are capable of playing in single high coverage but also have the balance to move into the box and make an impact in the running game. What Earl Thomas has done for the Seahawks has the rest of the league envying Seattle and hoping to find a similar player.

The 2014 NFL Draft won't provide another Thomas, but Alabama safety Ha'Sean Clinton-Dix is the closest thing available in this class. Many of the single high concepts used in the NFL were used at Alabama. Clinton-Dix was responsible for processing a lot of information and covering a lot of ground in Alabama's secondary.

As a result, he comes to the NFL prepared to take on an NFL playbook and also has the athletic upside to grow into a dominant playmaker in the secondary. He's not without his flaws, but Clinton-Dix has a ton of tools that will keep NFL teams interested.

Ball skills

Clinton-Dix flashes excellent ball skills at times. He's able to leap and high-point the football with ease. The only issue Clinton-Dix has at times is being too aggressive. If he anticipated a bit better, his ball skills would come in handy more often. As it is, he's built to play the safety position and looks natural when attacking the football in the air. Clinton-Dix is physical at the catch point, using his long arms to get a hand in to break up passes.

Coverage ability

Nick Saban trusted Clinton-Dix with a lot responsibility in coverage during his career at Alabama, and for the most part, the long, athletic safety rewarded his faith. Clinton-Dix has the change-of-direction skills and fluid hips to cover a ton of ground in the secondary. He's also fast enough to play deep middle and get to passes on the sideline. Clinton-Dix wasn't often asked to play man-to-man coverage and didn't appear to be too comfortable in those situations. Still, his length and hip quickness make him a capable cover man over the middle of the field. He also has the size to hang with tight ends at the next level.

Instincts/recognition

This is an area Clinton-Dix will need to improve on at the next level. When Clinton-Dix struggles, it's often because he's a step late in recognizing what receivers are doing in the passing game. His eyes tend to get caught in the backfield when he's in coverage, while he's athletic enough to make up for his lack of elite recognition skills.

On the flip side, Clinton-Dix shows better instincts in the running game. He has a better feel for recognizing whether a play will be a run or pass than he does for what route concepts are being run by the offense. Those recognition skills help make him a balanced safety who can play in the box.

Run support

Given his size and physicality in the passing game, it should come as no surprise that Clinton-Dix is solid in run support as well. He doesn't hesitate to take on ball carriers in the open field. The most impressive part of Clinton-Dix's run defense is how quickly he gets to the line of scrimmage and identifies the angle he should take on the running back.

An occasional issue that comes up in Clinton-Dix's game is him lowering his head when he goes to make a tackle. It can lead to missed tackles for him and makes him a lot easier to avoid in the open field. For the most part, Clinton-Dix shows solid fundamentals when tackling. Like most areas of his game, it's about being consistent.

Player comparison: Eric Berry, Kansas City Chiefs

Eric Berry and Clinton-Dix are both similar in size and skill set at the safety position. Both rely on their speed and range in coverage to make plays in the passing game. Berry probably had better instincts coming out of Tennessee than Clinton-Dix has, but the two are very similar athletically. Clinton-Dix could develop into a similar level player as Berry.

Final word

Clinton-Dix is a balanced player with the room to grow into a special safety in the NFL. Teams are looking for big safeties who can run and hit like Clinton-Dix can. No other safety in this class demonstrates as much balance at the position and few are as athletically gifted. Clinton-Dix is one of the top 10 players in this class and could be drafted as such in May.

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#18 Posted : Thursday, May 8, 2014 8:22:05 PM(UTC)
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#19 Posted : Thursday, May 8, 2014 8:25:16 PM(UTC)
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Alabama’s Ha’Sean Clinton-Dix entered the season as a favorite to be the top safety prospect in the 2014 NFL Draft and nothing has changed. The key this year for Dix was he had to do quite a bit more than last season. The Tide lost some talented corners and Dix was one of the players asked to step up and try to make up the difference lost there. Not only was able to cover a ton of ground in the defensive backfield in pass coverage, but he came up with a number of big time plays as a run defender this season as well.

During the season, Dix was suspended for taking a loan of a few hundred dollars from an assistant strength and conditioning coach that was later fired for the incident. This appeared to be an issue of Dix really needing the money to make it through college as opposed to a kid just indulging in extra cash just for the sake of doing it. His declaration for the NFL Draft was hardly surprising when that situation was combined with his outstanding talent.

For the NFL, Dix is an extremely talented player with tremendous physical gifts that is still getting better. Dix is able to fulfill the role of being a player who is able to fill the role of a center fielder and protect the deep middle, but has the athleticism to come up and be an effective run defender. He has shown the ability to be able to contribute in man coverage and just needs more experience in that capacity. Dix projects as a first round pick because of just how high his potential can carry him despite the fact he is still working on becoming a polished player.

Vitals & Build

Dix is listed at 6’1” 208lbs and appears to have fantastic triangle numbers for the position. His size, strength, speed, and quickness are all prototypical and he has the ability to fly all over the field and covers a ton of ground. He looks NFL ready now in terms of his strength and athleticism but he is still only going to be a junior, so it will be interesting to see how much farther he can go before he enters the NFL Draft.

Tackling

Dix is still developing as a tackler and has some good habits that will help him going forward but makes some of the same mistakes over and over that need to be addressed. The most important thing Dix does right is he comes up as fast as he can to the line of scrimmage but he does not just throw himself at the ball carrier. Rather, he gets in position extremely quickly and then breaks down to then attack the ball carrier, which is exactly what he needs to do.

The problem for Dix is he will approach too many tackles from the side rather than taking the time to get in front and he will miss tackles or be shielded from the play as a result. Obviously there is less of a threat in terms of physical punishment by taking on a ball carrier from the side but the results are less than stellar on tape. He needs to shift laterally and get in front to make sure he makes the tackle and prevents the player from making extra yardage.

When he breaks down and brings his arms, he is an outstanding tackler. He needs to stay with that and avoid the shoulder bombs and just running past ball carrier looking for the highlight hit.

Run Support

Dix has shown he is an extremely willing and active player when it comes to stopping the run. When he reads, he sprints downhill and does a good job when it comes to filling a gap with the potential to make a big play. Dix is not afraid to take on anyone and has the momentum and strength to throw opponents to the ground when he has a head of steam.

He diagnoses the play quickly and is able to adjust well. Dix is good at making sure he is not getting suckered on play action before attacking and has gotten better and faster over the course of his career.

One of the areas that can be hit or miss for Dix is in his angles. When he is right, he is able to make an impact play. Dix has shown he can make a highlight reel type play both in terms of how it looks but also because it is a tackle for loss. Too often though, he is wrong or has to adjust his angle in mid play and can end up missing the target entirely and being out of position to make a play. Dix is able to get away with it because he is so incredibly athletic and can make up ground quickly, but when he has to make that adjustment, he is not as effective.

His ability to cover ground is remarkable and he has outstanding range. When he has the right path, he really shrinks the field and is able to cut across and give the defense a feeling of having extra players on the field.

Dix shows the ability to take on and shed blocks when it comes to fighting through and making plays. He is extremely aggressive in delivering a hit on the opponent to jolt them and make it easier to shed and keep going. Occasionally, he will take on a block that is not really in the play, but teams can live with that aggressiveness.

Dix has been an impact run defender even as a deep safety for the Crimson Tide, so if he can iron out a few areas, especially his angles, he is a big time weapon. His ability to fly across from the other side of the field makes him incredibly dangerous.

Coverage

Dix came into this season with a much higher comfort level. He was able to make a number of big plays almost off of instinct alone last season as he got better and better with time. And he had to be this season in order for him to protect their corners over the top.

Dix does a good job of reading the play and diagnosing what is happening. It is rare that he is wrong on reading pass or run, so he is in the right position to get a jump on the play. The issue that Dix needs to clean up in this area is taking false steps based on anticipating what opposing receivers are doing. There are too many instances where he bites on footwork by opponents and has to make up for it with his athleticism.

When Dix is right, he is able to cover a substantial amount of ground and he seems able to cover from hash to hash when he is in the right mindset. The responsibility he has can make it difficult to make a ton of plays on the football, but there are situations where false steps and missed judgment on a play makes the difference between a big completion and what could be a turnover.

Dix is not afraid to send a message to opponents and he is someone who could draw a few penalties in his career as he intimidates opposing receivers. That said, he does show tremendous instincts when it comes to knowing when he should try to make a play on the ball and when he should look to hit the receiver.

Dix is more comfortable in zone, but he definitely has experience in man coverage as well. He has the ability to play man coverage and he is frustrating because he can run deep with just about anyone. Dix has more problems dealing with quick cuts and movements as he can be high cut and have trouble adjusting. Nevertheless, he is able to catch up quickly and he does do a good job to reach his arm around to deflect passes when able.

Dix needs time and coaching in this area to try to play lower and be smarter with his footwork, but he certainly looks like someone who can help out on a slot receiver or a tight end. Not only does he have the speed, but he is extremely physical.

Ball Skills

Dix has demonstrated great ball skills and the tremendous ability to concentrate on the ball through deflections and tipped passes. He also shows good body control and is able to contort himself to make plays on the ball that many players simply cannot. Dix has a tremendous leaping ability but will occasionally miss time when he jumps, which should only improve with experience and practice. He has fantastic closing speed for the position and often resembles a corner in just how well he can get to the football.

Dix has also shown the ability to make spectacular plays and despite the way the defense makes it difficult for him to make a ton of plays, he was able to make some of the biggest plays of the entire year for the Crimson Tide. Dix is aggressive as a returner and is definitely someone who can threaten to score when he gets his hands on the ball. He is at a disadvantage with Alabama just because when he makes interceptions, he is usually in a situation catching the ball down the field and forced to beat the entire opposing team in what basically becomes a punt return.

Special Teams

Dix has experience in punt coverage and he has shown to be effective there. With his combination of strength and athleticism, he can be placed just about anywhere on special teams coverage and be an excellent addition.

System Fit

Dix is a hybrid safety and he appears to have the ability to play strong, free, or a combo safety depending on the team that takes him. The only area he needs to really prove himself as a strong safety is covering tight ends and his athleticism and size make him incredibly well suited to do it; he just needs more experience in that area and against high caliber opponents.

NFL Comparison

It will come off as cheap and easy, but Dix is awfully similar to former teammate Mark Barron and this is by design. The Alabama system develops their safeties like this in the same way Eric Mangini and Romeo Crennel have used them in their defenses. Strong and free are basically in name only as both guys tend to do a little bit of everything. From protecting over the top to playing the run to man coverage in the box, these guys do it all and both Barron and Dix are terrific athletes, though Barron was slightly bigger than Dix coming into the NFL.

Draft Projection

Ha’Sean Clinton-Dix is a good player who has not found his ceiling yet. His physical ability is tremendous and his mindset is just as valuable. Dix can make plays over the top and intercept passes, but he is a hardnosed run defender who is not afraid to take on the biggest of opponents and can surprise people with his strength and power. He is still polishing his game in some areas but his best football may still be ahead of him. Dix projects as a first round pick and could really be a special player at the next level if he can tap into all of that potential.
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#20 Posted : Thursday, May 8, 2014 8:26:37 PM(UTC)
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Don't watch the Auburn game tape if you're hoping he'll be an effective player for the packers


just posting info on him. not too may rookies look as good in the NFL as they did in college.
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#21 Posted : Thursday, May 8, 2014 8:31:05 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
just posting info on him. not too may rookies look as good in the NFL as they did in college.


I'm glad you posted it, I haven't seen that link. I just wish we would have gone a different direction. I don't think it's good value at the 21 spot.
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#22 Posted : Thursday, May 8, 2014 8:32:59 PM(UTC)
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So our dime package is going to be Burnett, Clinton-Dix, Shields, Williams, Hyde, and Hampton - with Davon House playing for whoever's injured that week. It gets a lot worse around the league.

Hopefully Dix is very intelligent - just wish he was faster. Nick Collins was sub 4.4 and Dix timed and 4.58 - that's a huge speed difference. I think a lot of Packers fans took Collins for granted - we've been very spoiled at that position.

My hope for Dix is that he is solid and doesn't give up bone-head plays.
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#23 Posted : Thursday, May 8, 2014 8:33:28 PM(UTC)
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I'm glad you posted it, I haven't seen that link. I just wish we would have gone a different direction. I don't think it's good value at the 21 spot.


I think you and I are the only people who aren't happy with this pick... the tradition continues. Taking need guys who are solid players in college.
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#24 Posted : Thursday, May 8, 2014 8:34:43 PM(UTC)
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So our dime package is going to be Burnett, Clinton-Dix, Shields, Williams, Hyde, and Hampton - with Davon House playing for whoever's injured that week. It gets a lot worse around the league.

Hopefully Dix is very intelligent - just wish he was faster. Nick Collins was sub 4.4 and Dix timed and 4.58 - that's a huge speed difference. I think a lot of Packers fans took Collins for granted - we've been very spoiled at that position.

My hope for Dix is that he is solid and doesn't give up bone-head plays.


The knock on him is he's a play fake biter... and that big time QB's might eat him up in the NFL. Hmmm...haven't we seen that over and over again with our current crop?

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#25 Posted : Thursday, May 8, 2014 8:36:00 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
So our dime package is going to be Burnett, Clinton-Dix, Shields, Williams, Hyde, and Hampton - with Davon House playing for whoever's injured that week. It gets a lot worse around the league.

Hopefully Dix is very intelligent - just wish he was faster. Nick Collins was sub 4.4 and Dix timed and 4.58 - that's a huge speed difference. I think a lot of Packers fans took Collins for granted - we've been very spoiled at that position.

My hope for Dix is that he is solid and doesn't give up bone-head plays.


Dude Colliins was HoF calibur, imo. Dude had MADD skills. You don't find players like that often. 4.5 is plenty for a S. Hell, Jerry Rice and Greg Jennings both posted 4.5 at the combine.
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