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Offline play2win  
#1 Posted : Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:07:48 AM(UTC)
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Carl Bradford | Linebacker | Arizona State | 6'1" - 241 lbs.


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Green Bay -The Packers have selected linebacker Carl Bradford from Arizona State in the fourth round with the 121st pick overall in the NFL draft on Saturday.


Love it!!!! Quite a steal at 121! Projected as an R2.

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STRENGTHS: Sports a compact, powerful frame. Highly instinctive, physical and versatile defender who splits his time between defensive end, outside linebacker and inside linebacker. Good initial quickness off the snap out of the three-point stance, showing enough speed to cross the face of the offensive tackle, as well as an effective club, rip and spin moves to break free.
Surprisingly effective when run toward due to his quickness and use of leverage, bending to take out the knees of oncoming blockers and creating a pile. Adept at slipping blocks. Locates the football quickly and shows an explosive burst to close emphatically.

Only occasionally asked to drop back into coverage, but shows at least fair fluidity and speed when doing so. Alert player with a history of making big plays.

WEAKNESSES: Played in a highly aggressive scheme that may have maximized his big-play ability while minimizing his faults. Lacks ideal physical traits to remain as an outside pass rusher in the NFL, where he starred for the Sun Devils.

Can be engulfed in the running game (whether playing linebacker or defensive end) and does not appear to possess ideal arm length to break free once blockers latch on.

Smooth accelerator off the edge but doesn't possess great speed. Can play out of control, at times, dropping his head to deliver the knockout blow and occasionally whiffing on open-field tackles. Can allow his emotions to get the better of him; benched for the second half against Oregon State Nov. 16 after a physical altercation with teammates on the sideline.

COMPARES TO: Brandon Spikes, Patriots - Like New England's free agent inside linebacker, Bradford is an instinctive, physical and tenacious defender who, unfortunately, has some size and athletic limitations.



OVERVIEW: Bradford has an impressive blend of power and explosion, rushing the passer with a violent, ferocious temperament. He will be viewed by some as a classic 'tweener, but is more than the sum of his parts.

Size, athleticism and instincts project Bradford best to inside linebacker in the NFL - a position he only occasionally played for ASU. However, his ability as a personal protector in the punting game does increase his value.
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Offline musccy  
#2 Posted : Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:19:15 AM(UTC)
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I'm cautiously optimistic with this pick. Admittedly I didn't know a lot about him coming into the draft, but he seems to be a high motor guy with a bit of a mean streak we could use. Sounds like he can go inside, just don't know about his coverage skills.
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#3 Posted : Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:33:49 AM(UTC)
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Watch all the batted down balls musccy...



Then there's this, one game v. USC, and if you stick with it you can see how disruptive Bradford is. Check out the pick at 6:41:

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Offline musccy  
#4 Posted : Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:43:23 AM(UTC)
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I remember him against wisconsin, he seems like a decent tackler, and he will seem to add some intimidation and beef up the middle of our lb group...again just don't know if he can cover and other scouting I've read is his pass rush sills are marginal, he relied a lot on scheme to get pressure.
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#5 Posted : Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:47:23 AM(UTC)
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Another ILB who hasn't proven he can cover.

And he's a tweener! Capers must LOVE this guy!
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#6 Posted : Saturday, May 10, 2014 12:04:41 PM(UTC)
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For the round to value ratio this is, by far, my favorite pick so far. Only one I really like so far.
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Offline wpr  
#7 Posted : Saturday, May 10, 2014 12:15:14 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: uffda udfa Go to Quoted Post
For the round to value ratio this is, by far, my favorite pick so far. Only one I really like so far.


great value.

Lindy's Sports says

grade 7.5 out of 9 = above average starter.
projected 2nd or 3rd round

summary of strengths and weakness too long for me to type all. Most has been said by others as well.

compares to Brandon Spikes Patriots.
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Offline luigis  
#8 Posted : Saturday, May 10, 2014 12:41:38 PM(UTC)
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In the 4th the odds of getting a starter are already quite low, so this is a very good pick.

I hope he can contribute to STs while learning to take a spot in the middle of the field.
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Offline evad04  
#9 Posted : Saturday, May 10, 2014 1:10:06 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
Another ILB who hasn't proven he can cover.

And he's a tweener! Capers must LOVE this guy!


Just because Mike Mayock or some other talking head says he projects as an ILB doesn't mean that's where he's going to play. At least right away.

A Packers front office guy said he'll likely start out at OLB but that a transition to ILB is possible.
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Offline DarkaneRules  
#10 Posted : Saturday, May 10, 2014 3:59:33 PM(UTC)
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Love this pick particularly because he is versatile. He will fit nicely into the LB group with the other elephants :)
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Offline Yerko  
#11 Posted : Monday, May 12, 2014 12:41:18 PM(UTC)
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Not overly impressed with his tape. He seems to be stalemated more than anything. Two things he seems to succeed at, rushing up the middle and he has decent coverage ability (some are saying he can't cover).
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Offline play2win  
#12 Posted : Monday, May 12, 2014 1:12:33 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Yerko Go to Quoted Post
Not overly impressed with his tape. He seems to be stalemated more than anything. Two things he seems to succeed at, rushing up the middle and he has decent coverage ability (some are saying he can't cover).


Yerko, I went to ASU and have followed this guy for a while. He is a good player, but I'm right with you on your concerns.

It will be interesting to see what happens with him and how they choose to use him. I'm confused by this pick, unless they want to use him at ILB. I think he could do well there. We have a ton of OLB players, but the thought of adding another on the left to platoon with Neal, then shifting Perry over to his more effective side on the right platooning with Matthews may make some sense.

But then, what happens with Peppers?

How many will they keep?

I thought, as great of a projection steal he might have been in the draft lasting to the middle of R4, it was still a pick loaded with uncertainty. Even more so when you have McCarthy stating he will be used outside. Not particularly fast, but loaded with energy in getting after the QB. Good in coverage. He is versatile. He has some decent instincts for the game. He is a better pass rusher than your video indicates (21.5 sacks, 43 TFL). But, I did want more raw speed and size. Bradford is 6-1 and 250. Maybe he has tools they like and they think they can coach him up. I'm thinking this was a driving factor in their selecting him. IMO, a shift inside would make the most sense, but who knows what they are thinking up there?

Honestly, that is a component of this defense I find more than a bit troubling. Few clearly defined roles. Especially in our front seven. Maybe they like it that way, so that they can morph into different fronts without changing personnel between downs. My guess is the pick is probably geared more towards this aspect of how Capers likes to call his D. That is the only thing that makes sense to me with their selection of Carl Bradford, aside from just ramping up competition at the position. Maybe it works.

We've got Malumba and Palmer on the outside too.

This is a better video of what he can bring from a highlight perspective:

Carl Bradford Highlights

Here's another one:

Bradford Highlights

His playing style is really unique. I'll give him that. Unlike any I've seen...

Does he get stonewalled? Sure, who doesn't? He can get blocked away from a play. But, he is ALWAYS ON. Goes 100% all the time and doesn't take plays off. Figure, he may fare well with Peppers, Daniels, Jones and Matthews...

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Offline yooperfan  
#13 Posted : Monday, May 12, 2014 2:14:41 PM(UTC)
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I like this pick.
He may not turn into a star player that they will want to keep in the long term but I think he will help us on the short term as we continue to turn this defense around.
This guy has some get up and go.

Plus he is a former Sun Devil. I got a soft spot in my heart for ASU players.
Offline play2win  
#14 Posted : Monday, May 12, 2014 2:22:50 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: yooperfan Go to Quoted Post
I like this pick.
He may not turn into a star player that they will want to keep in the long term but I think he will help us on the short term as we continue to turn this defense around.
This guy has some get up and go.

Plus he is a former Sun Devil. I got a soft spot in my heart for ASU players.


You know what yoops? He raises competition in our LB corp. That's for sure. He has a Tasmanian Devil kind of style to his play.

Figure, with all the different pass rush combinations we now have, someone's gonna be getting home!
Offline Mucky Tundra  
#15 Posted : Monday, May 12, 2014 6:10:05 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Yerko Go to Quoted Post
Not overly impressed with his tape. He seems to be stalemated more than anything. Two things he seems to succeed at, rushing up the middle and he has decent coverage ability (some are saying he can't cover).


Excellent, we'll just bring up the middle with with Daniels while Peppers and Matthews come from the outside.
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#16 Posted : Monday, May 12, 2014 6:30:20 PM(UTC)
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I want him to roam. I want Clay to roam. I want this defense to be more multiple and versatile. The tape above shows a lot of plays where he makes mistakes to show both sides. That's what the scouts use. The fans watch the highlights.

Imagine if this guy really comes on and we get him opposite Clay. That could really be something.
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#17 Posted : Monday, May 12, 2014 6:35:54 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules Go to Quoted Post
I want him to roam. I want Clay to roam. I want this defense to be more multiple and versatile. The tape above shows a lot of plays where he makes mistakes to show both sides. That's what the scouts use. The fans watch the highlights.

Imagine if this guy really comes on and we get him opposite Clay. That could really be something.


I really think this guy could helpful on the edge and in the middle. Even if they want to try him at OLB, if he proves athletic enough to roam the middle on passing downs it could be a boon to our passing defense and hard to keep him off the field.
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#18 Posted : Monday, May 12, 2014 7:14:35 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra Go to Quoted Post
I really think this guy could helpful on the edge and in the middle. Even if they want to try him at OLB, if he proves athletic enough to roam the middle on passing downs it could be a boon to our passing defense and hard to keep him off the field.


Presuming we see everyone stay healthy, do you think some brand of the psycho package makes its way back this year?
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:11:27 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules Go to Quoted Post
I want him to roam. I want Clay to roam. I want this defense to be more multiple and versatile. The tape above shows a lot of plays where he makes mistakes to show both sides. That's what the scouts use. The fans watch the highlights.

Imagine if this guy really comes on and we get him opposite Clay. That could really be something.


It is really starting to look like we are getting some serious talent in our front 7. This could be a very good group. And, who knows how far that can take us, and the positive impact that will have on our secondary? I cannot wait for that pick machine to start cranking'!

I'm imagining Bradford and Hubbard on the left, Matthews and Perry on the right in rotation. This could be big.
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#20 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 7:05:26 PM(UTC)
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Add to that our two tweeners Peppers and Neal. If everyone is healthy, Dom Capers might finally be able to work some of his magic he has rarely been able to use.
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#21 Posted : Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:23:33 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules Go to Quoted Post
Add to that our two tweeners Peppers and Neal. If everyone is healthy, Dom Capers might finally be able to work some of his magic he has rarely been able to use.


Yeah, we really haven't had this much talent up front since the days of Reggie White, Santana Dotson, Gilbert Brown, Sean Jones, Wayne Simmons, George Koonce and Bernardo Harris/Ron Cox...

This could be really, really good. we have to see how it all comes together, but Capers has some very serious players to work with.

Honestly, look at what our pass rush has been over the last 3 years. And, we have climbed in sacks. Last year we were rated #9 in sacks in the NFL with 45. In 2012 we were rated #4 with 47. In 2011 we were rated #27 with 29...

This year's front 7 should turn in our top numbers alone, minus the blitzing CBs and Ss. The front 7 may very well eclipse that 47 total.

As a result, our secondary will have a field day out there making picks... this is starting to look like a very different defense, on paper. Can't wait to see it for reals!
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#22 Posted : Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:27:35 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
Yeah, we really haven't had this much talent up front since the days of Reggie White, Santana Dotson, Gilbert Brown, Sean Jones, Wayne Simmons, George Koonce and Bernardo Harris/Ron Cox...

This could be really, really good. we have to see how it all comes together, but Capers has some very serious players to work with.

Honestly, look at what our pass rush has been over the last 3 years. And, we have climbed in sacks. Last year we were rated #9 in sacks in the NFL with 45. In 2012 we were rated #4 with 47. In 2011 we were rated #27 with 29...

This year's front 7 should turn in our top numbers alone, minus the blitzing CBs and Ss. The front 7 may very well eclipse that 47 total.

As a result, our secondary will have a field day out there making picks... this is starting to look like a very different defense, on paper. Can't wait to see it for reals!


I know our sacks have gone up the past two seasons but hasn't our defense efficiency been in the pits? As in, we only get a lot of sacks because our defense is on the field a lot? Hence the high sack numbers but declining TOs.
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#23 Posted : Wednesday, May 14, 2014 7:35:59 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra Go to Quoted Post
I know our sacks have gone up the past two seasons but hasn't our defense efficiency been in the pits? As in, we only get a lot of sacks because our defense is on the field a lot? Hence the high sack numbers but declining TOs.


Yeah, but that's where the new front 7 comes in. 5.5 of those sacks came from our DBs. How many other times were they forced to blitz and didn't get home to the QB?

Now, if we can get those same numbers just from our front 7, and I think we will, this will make for a far more effective and efficient defense, with what I anticipate will be a return to the pick machine we were used to seeing.

We've gone 3 years without an adequate pass rush opposite Matthews. Now, we've added at the very least, 3 new pass rushers to jump in on that other side, along with a 1st round pick in Datone Jones who should begin making a name for himself this season. Perry can be relegated to working the right side of the D where he is more comfortable and effective, in a rotation with Matthews.

Having Casey Hayward back should be a great help in our secondary, not to mention the addition of Clinton-Dix.

To me, this is looking really good.

Nice Q&A with Todd Graham, ASU's LB coach on Carl Bradford:
Quote:
On the Packers fit… “The Packer fans are going to get a guy who plays with passion. He’s a perfect fit for the 3-4, he’s a perfect fit for the way you guys attack. Obviously playing opposite one of the best outside linebackers in the country will be something. I think he’s a guy who will start with the potential to be an all-pro.”

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FYI, posted while wearing my Sun Devil jersey... Laughing No shit.

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#24 Posted : Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:59:28 PM(UTC)
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If you want to read an article that will get you fired up about a player this is it... p2w, are you sure this guy isn't the next LT?

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#25 Posted : Thursday, May 15, 2014 5:35:32 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: uffda udfa Go to Quoted Post
If you want to read an article that will get you fired up about a player this is it... p2w, are you sure this guy isn't the next LT?

http://www.jsonline.com/...gs/sports/259074521.html


Laughing

Yeah, well, it is pretty cool to add a player like him to this defense opposite Matthews. I'm not kidding, his playing style is very unique in that he is relentless. He does bring a Tasmanian Devil kind of quality to our pass rush. Doesn't always get home, but no one always does. He can get blocked out. But, he will get there. A lot. He is also able to elude blockers to create some pretty good disruption, in rushing the passer, pass coverage, and stopping the run.

Being an ASU fan, I've watched him the last couple of years and he has really come on. We all know Matthews style, with his arms flailing purposefully to take a blocker out of a play and make his way to the QB. Bradford's is similar, but even more, I guess, unpredictable. Non stop motor. I have hopes that he will turn out to be a great pick for the Packers. 4th Round? Steal.

Who, exactly, will teams be doubling on our front 7? This is going to be awesome. A friend of mine recently pegged this the "Oh Shit!" Defense. Because, that is what our opponents will be saying, every play.

All of a sudden, we are really deep, with a lot of good, solid play makers up there. This is going to be a very different looking defense for the Green Bay Packers. Far better than anything we have seen in some time.
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