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uffda udfa  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, May 14, 2014 3:33:51 PM(UTC)
http://www.nfl.com/news/...ker?campaign=Twitter_atl

... we're starting to think Finley could wind up back with the Packers if he's cleared again.
play2win  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, May 14, 2014 4:39:06 PM(UTC)
I would not be surprised. They just love the guy. Plain and simple.

I was thinking there was no way, with how careful they are with this stuff, and I am leaning to this direction where he just won't be medically cleared. But, who knows? If he clears, he's sounding like an automatic in.

The timetable for him to be cleared, less than one year after the injury, and just months after the surgery seems improbable. Highly so to me.
Tezzy  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, May 14, 2014 5:37:35 PM(UTC)
play2win said: Go to Quoted Post
I would not be surprised. They just love the guy. Plain and simple.

I was thinking there was no way, with how careful they are with this stuff, and I am leaning to this direction where he just won't be medically cleared. But, who knows? If he clears, he's sounding like an automatic in.

The timetable for him to be cleared, less than one year after the injury, and just months after the surgery seems improbable. Highly so to me.


Him being back on the field for the Packers would be fine with me.

dfosterf  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:02:04 PM(UTC)
Finley can hit the trail. I'm from Wisconsin, but I'm tired of being milked by so-called-awesome-potential.

We need high-milk cows, not show cows.

nerdmann  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:29:38 PM(UTC)
I don't see Pat McKenzie ever clearing him to play.
uffda udfa  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, May 14, 2014 7:19:39 PM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
I don't see Pat McKenzie ever clearing him to play.


What? You mean he hasn't had 3 curative acupuncture sessions with you? [grin1]
nerdmann  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:14:59 PM(UTC)
uffda udfa said: Go to Quoted Post
What? You mean he hasn't had 3 curative acupuncture sessions with you? [grin1]


Laugh all you want, but people like Nick Collins get treated all the time, with success.

FACT. Pat McKenzie is ultra conservative when it comes to anything from C3 and above.

In a case like Finley's acupuncture may have helped, before the surgery. I don't know. I don't know how severe it was, and I don't know what the condition was. But since he's already had the surgery he's probably fucked.

Some other team Dr. might clear him, but I don't think ours will.
uffda udfa  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:27:20 PM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Laugh all you want, but people like Nick Collins get treated all the time, with success.

FACT. Pat McKenzie is ultra conservative when it comes to anything from C3 and above.

In a case like Finley's acupuncture may have helped, before the surgery. I don't know. I don't know how severe it was, and I don't know what the condition was. But since he's already had the surgery he's probably fucked.

Some other team Dr. might clear him, but I don't think ours will.


I'm not laughing... I was trying to connect with you not tick you off. I would've used the laughing icon if I meant to indicate I was laughing. I was hoping to get you to respond to his situation as you did Collins.

If the Packers don't clear him, I gotta believe just like with Nick Collins, nobody is going to clear him. The fact Mike McCarthy has talked about wanting him back from the get go and not sounding like it's over, makes me think there's a real chance he gets cleared. I don't recall him being this out front on Nick's situation. That seemed and sounded dire from the beginning and it ended up that way.



play2win  
#9 Posted : Thursday, May 15, 2014 5:51:01 AM(UTC)
uffda udfa said: Go to Quoted Post
I'm not laughing... I was trying to connect with you not tick you off. I would've used the laughing icon if I meant to indicate I was laughing. I was hoping to get you to respond to his situation as you did Collins.

If the Packers don't clear him, I gotta believe just like with Nick Collins, nobody is going to clear him. The fact Mike McCarthy has talked about wanting him back from the get go and not sounding like it's over, makes me think there's a real chance he gets cleared. I don't recall him being this out front on Nick's situation. That seemed and sounded dire from the beginning and it ended up that way.





I wonder if McCarthy's remarks were more sincere than many might think. He has always loved this guy. I'm sure his words are encouraging, and will placate Finley to some degree. But, I do question his actually being cleared to play, especially so early. I just can't see McKenzie doing that. McCarthy will be the good cop in this, and McKenzie the bad cop. And, he has to be. As his doctor and the team's physician, he has to look out for the well being of Jermichael Finley. First and foremost. I cannot see how he touches the field this year.

I think Thompson knew that, or suspected that his clearing would be nearly impossible, hence the Richard Rodgers pick. I hope I'm wrong, because that could make for one hell of a 2 TE set. Maybe that can happen in 2015...
Zero2Cool  
#10 Posted : Thursday, May 15, 2014 6:06:18 AM(UTC)
dfosterf said: Go to Quoted Post
Finley can hit the trail. I'm from Wisconsin, but I'm tired of being milked by so-called-awesome-potential.

We need high-milk cows, not show cows.


Maybe its time to stop thinking and expecting Jermichael Finley to snare 100 cathces, rack up 1,400 yards and score 25 TD's ... just maybe!

The guy is a force to be reckoned with. He has size he has speed and he can break tackles. His mere presence opens up options for other weapons on the offense.

When reading these numbers, keep in mind the Packers had one helluva trio of WR to spread the ball around with as well. Therefore, not every ball can be thrown to Finley.

2012
Receptions: 61 (most by Packers TE)
Yards: 667
TD: 2
Ave: 10.9

2011
Receptions: 55
Yards: 767 (3rd most by Packers TE)
TD: 8 (5th most by Packers TE)
Ave: 13.9


All this yapping about "potential" unreached is BSquat! Can he improve more? Of course he can. Hell, even A.J. Hawk excelled after we ALL assumed he had flatlined his potential seasons ago.


Finley's problem is health. You listen to his coaches, to his teammates and they ALL rave about his ethic and how good of a team player he is. We fans, myself included, have ignorantly abused Finley as our whipping boy and let me tell you ... if Finley is the best whipping boy we can find, then we should be pretty damn happy.



I'm stepping down from my soap box to ask you a question. What do you want out of Jermichael Finley that will make you say "Ok, that boy has reached his potential"?
nerdmann  
#11 Posted : Thursday, May 15, 2014 6:10:14 AM(UTC)
uffda udfa said: Go to Quoted Post
I'm not laughing... I was trying to connect with you not tick you off. I would've used the laughing icon if I meant to indicate I was laughing. I was hoping to get you to respond to his situation as you did Collins.

If the Packers don't clear him, I gotta believe just like with Nick Collins, nobody is going to clear him. The fact Mike McCarthy has talked about wanting him back from the get go and not sounding like it's over, makes me think there's a real chance he gets cleared. I don't recall him being this out front on Nick's situation. That seemed and sounded dire from the beginning and it ended up that way.





This staff constantly lies about injuries.

Remember when Neal hurt his knee? Went down in a heap in a non contact drill. OH IT'S NOTHING. HE'S DAY TO DAY. lol Pretty much missed the entire year.

Atari Bigby broke his ankle and never made the injury report. At least that's how it appears. We still don't know what happened with that.
Zero2Cool  
#12 Posted : Thursday, May 15, 2014 6:12:49 AM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
This staff constantly lies about injuries.

Remember when Neal hurt his knee? Went down in a heap in a non contact drill. OH IT'S NOTHING. HE'S DAY TO DAY. lol Pretty much missed the entire year.

Atari Bigby broke his ankle and never made the injury report. At least that's how it appears. We still don't know what happened with that.


Mike Neal - 2013 played in 16 games, started 10, got 5 sacks


MintBaconDrivel  
#13 Posted : Thursday, May 15, 2014 6:18:26 AM(UTC)
Josh Alper said:
After the Packers drafted tight end Richard Rodgers in the third round, General Manager Ted Thompson said that the move did not shut the door on the possibility that tight end Jermichael Finley could return to the team before the start of the season. Finley remains a free agent as he waits for medical clearance...


“In my mind he is a Green Bay Packer — hopefully,” McCarthy said on SiriusXM Radio with Rich Gannon, via ESPN Wisconsin. “[Finley] is going through a tough medical situation. I think we all recognize that it was a serious injury. My understanding is he is doing everything and beyond to get himself ready. We’ll continue to watch that.”

nerdmann  
#14 Posted : Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:11:09 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Mike Neal - 2013 played in 16 games, started 10, got 5 sacks




Hopefully he'll stay healthy.

But if he does get hurt, they'll lie about it, guaranteed.
earthquake  
#15 Posted : Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:18:28 AM(UTC)
uffda udfa said: Go to Quoted Post
I'm not laughing... I was trying to connect with you not tick you off. I would've used the laughing icon if I meant to indicate I was laughing. I was hoping to get you to respond to his situation as you did Collins.

If the Packers don't clear him, I gotta believe just like with Nick Collins, nobody is going to clear him. The fact Mike McCarthy has talked about wanting him back from the get go and not sounding like it's over, makes me think there's a real chance he gets cleared. I don't recall him being this out front on Nick's situation. That seemed and sounded dire from the beginning and it ended up that way.



I think the fact that McCarthy openly talked about in the way he did is encouraging. I remember with the Nick Collins situation, he talked about it as well he said something to the affect of "If he was my kid, I wouldn't let him play", and "its a decision he and his family will have to make", which sounded grim at the time and turned out to be accurate (I may be totally wrong about the quotes but this is what I remember).

The fact that he is speaking in such a way about Finley seems more optimistic, but I won't hold my breath.
dfosterf  
#16 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 6:11:54 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Maybe its time to stop thinking and expecting Jermichael Finley to snare 100 cathces, rack up 1,400 yards and score 25 TD's ... just maybe!

The guy is a force to be reckoned with. He has size he has speed and he can break tackles. His mere presence opens up options for other weapons on the offense.

When reading these numbers, keep in mind the Packers had one helluva trio of WR to spread the ball around with as well. Therefore, not every ball can be thrown to Finley.

2012
Receptions: 61 (most by Packers TE)
Yards: 667
TD: 2
Ave: 10.9

2011
Receptions: 55
Yards: 767 (3rd most by Packers TE)
TD: 8 (5th most by Packers TE)
Ave: 13.9


All this yapping about "potential" unreached is BSquat! Can he improve more? Of course he can. Hell, even A.J. Hawk excelled after we ALL assumed he had flatlined his potential seasons ago.


Finley's problem is health. You listen to his coaches, to his teammates and they ALL rave about his ethic and how good of a team player he is. We fans, myself included, have ignorantly abused Finley as our whipping boy and let me tell you ... if Finley is the best whipping boy we can find, then we should be pretty damn happy.



I'm stepping down from my soap box to ask you a question. What do you want out of Jermichael Finley that will make you say "Ok, that boy has reached his potential"?



I feel like if he ever reached his full potential we could not afford to keep him. I don't hate Finley- He has thrilled me at times. Health is something we all have to do a better job of evaluating as "better than Ted Thompson" evaluators. :) No one is worth a damn if not on the field that Sunday when we need them. Pluses and minuses, also factoring in the reps lost by his potential replacement, I stand by Finley can hit the trail.


Remember, we had to pay Aaron Rodgers. Then there was Clay. That leaves all the schleppers fighting for the rest.
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